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Congolese Music / Re: STRANGE NAMES ON WENGE MUSICA LIST
« on: May 16, 2018, 16:21 »
what happened with masela is that he was so nice with jb and werra when they were not yet a proven group than when crazy success arrived they dominated him but in reunions he was often the one who disagreed the most with stuff like keeping money between admins and giving a ridicilously low amount of money to mbuta kiss to pay musicians
so sometimes they'd spend hours and hours since masela kept raising points against the way jb and werra wanted the group to be ruled
or he'd do some stuff to express his disagreement,at some point in 1995 or something like that jb and werra found a way to avoid giving him his part of the money so what he was doing is that he'd go to their houses and annoy them hard or he'd take by force the car key and allow you to move only when he gets his money
if you notice well,makaba and masela started losing power from the moment they had back ups in mabanga,ficarre,burkina,japonais it fuelled jb and werra with the idea that they can live without them anyways if they are too unhappy since they had found guys who could cover well

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they managed to dance nkila mogroso and still look cool thats an achievement  :D :D :D :D

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Congolese Music / Re: WERRASON KOROGA FEASTIVAL KENYA 2018
« on: May 16, 2018, 11:32 »
 it is ficarre,of course,but werra considers it his song,because the final song's first minutes came from a song kibens gave him back in early 1990's
poor ficarre and masela lol their songs are played left right and center,by most of the wenge offshots and "children"

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 no kibens is not muluba,just given professeur or teacher in tshiluba as nickname,kibens is from bas congo,he's ferre's cousin/uncle

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its like one night stand

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Congolese Music / KARMAPA IN A RARE POPULAR CONCERT
« on: May 14, 2018, 22:59 »


In his hometown matete

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not yet,its in the plans this year

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almost a certified "grand slam" winner she is,only fally remains :D :D :D :D

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gotta respect the man's mental strength,he is been mocked and humiliated and criticized ever since those fally comments and bill's ntaba mobange about 20 years ago soon and he still keeps going,if i were him i would not have been that "strong"

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yeah indeed back when you could just changed the photo these things happened a lot,ferre surely regrets it a little bit until today,when in polemic maison mere reply to him he never sang on a wenge album he was sooo close :D :D :D

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 Yeah carine's ex has been very bitter about their breakup so he has been trying for a moment to spoil(even more ) her image so he leaked an audio of him and her,and also leaked some stuff she said about heritier apparently
in short he's been bitter and is getting backed by fans of the artists who carine attacks so  surely is not giving up on fuelling controversy around her
fans are much more angry with the fact they needed something strong to happen to carine so bad  to calm her down that they were disappointed that wazekwa did not react as usual being very very strict

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 i just got remembered a story of the feux de l'amour europe tour,and that ferre seguin and roger ngandu had visas and were shown it prior to trip and they sold or gave away stuff hoping to come back with much better,and the day of trip they came for checking and were told people were travelling with their papers :D :D :D
and they were sulking soooo bad,and when they returned jb suspended especially roger who was the harshest critic so he literally started bcbg with a 3 month suspension which required the songwriters rastabob and sometimes eldorado to go on tv as bcbg spokesmen

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 Lol he imitated so well the way kibens like to have complicated french vocals,thats the "trap" jb uses the rare time he witness tests himself,if you do kibens vocal without mistake he'll adopt you easy and 99,99 per cent always fail lyrics :D :D :D
an example here at 2 55

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He is asked about why his concerts abroad have not happened as quick as ferre and fally with the same producer and he defends himself asked who between them had performed in several african countries by one year of solo career(which both did,especially faly) and goes on to say even though people see him like somebody who wants things to happen fast he also wants to take him time go step by step and believes so far his record is not bad with several concerts  in DRC angola brazza and takes a little dig at fally and his journalists who say  those countries do not count but when they perform there they hype it saying it was full of angolan people not just congolese diaspora of there
 he says people see him as arrogant because he has ambition but a normal person has to challenge himself for a bright future,so he does not understand how his slogans are seen as direspect towards other artists
he says he will perform in ivory coast in september and he could have done much earlier one if he just wanted to shut haters mouth but he wanted to focus more in making people accept his album in DRC and he could have had showcases or concerts in other countries just to prove a point but he wanted to perform there with his group nothing just something quick to say look i have become international
 he reacts to fabregas comment and says he has no problem with it, and he jokes he has to add to his challenges to get fabregas recognition that he is a true musician since its fabregas who decides,then says everybody knows he is a proven musician and  he does not want to go into war with fabregas over his comment because both families know each other their mothers are friends and fabregas knows how hard he fought for him to become a respected artist in maison mere so one bad sentence can not erase the lots of praise fabregas did for him
 He is asked about future album and he says he knows they make good money with sellings 20 30 songs but he want to go to old formula of 10 12 songs  4 rumbas 3 4 dancing songs 3 feats for example and apart from that they are also working on a group album
then she asks about his intervention to calm controversy involving carine mokonzi and felix wazekwa and he says he had to do it because wazekwa is not somebody controversial so he had to respect and protect that image he has and he believes anybody in his position would have done the same thing and she then asks why he does not stop carine doing polemic with other artists then and he replies  that he does not react because those artist also have people very involved into polemic towards him or other artists so why would forbid something to somebody when the other camp keeps direspecting you
and she then says people say you and a couple of guys are ungrateful to werra and he says he wonders why in DRC people only analyse things in a unique way and not an all round analysis,people say young musicians are not grateful to their ex bosses but people never ask whether ex bosses are also grateful to their ex employees because even though they gained fame and experience next to them they still contributed a lot to their leaders career so they also deserve respect
 he is told that miel has left or more exactly that he claims to be granted leave to work on his album and he says artists who like that formula are afraid to lose supports of their leaders fans so he should man up and say he is gone  and he adds that miel and all the maison mere guys attacked him,said they got rid of the bad egg  and the guy who is ungrateful and now all of them guys who talked bad about him are solo artists so who is ungrateful now by their standards and she adds that miel said clan werrasonic controls kinshasa and he does not agree with it,he says its undoubtable that werrason coached them and made them stars but they deserve their own credit for having decent/good or excellent solo career because there are plenty of guys who were also made stars in maison mere who are struggleing very hard today so he does not like that talk which for him is meant to bellitle other artists and he would prefer people to say congolese music is still going strong with arrival of a new generation

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