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There was alot of demand from donors to have songs on that album because of Koffi saying that it would be his "last album". Back in 2014 he proudly said that he would the first Congolese artist to release a 3-cd album. But after that he saw that Werrason stole his idea by releasing Fleche Ingeta as a 3-cd album that year, he came with 4 cd when releasing 13ème Apotre in 2015. Fabregas would follow Koffi's example in 2016 by coming with 38 songs for his double album Poison/Antidote "Je Pense"

Koffi himself made the album flop by coming with 39 songs,  many had already before listening to it something like "damn 39 songs". I remember people on social media saying that 13eme apotre is an album for unemployed people (album ya ba chomeurs). The second thing is that many were already fed up with Cindy and already knew that there would nothing special just songs about sex like BEK and Abracadabra, despite Férre Gola, Evoloko Lay and Fabregas participating as guest stars. Than also that negativity/polemic about Ferre Gola not wanting to record the videoclip of Cobetox with Koffi after that the album got released.



The third thing was that Koffi himself stopped the promotion of the generiques his atalaku's made in that album by overpromoting Selfie and its remix version Selfie Tournevis and giving his atalaku's the order to not promote their generiques. This made atalaku Tresor Nzinga mad, deciding to leave Quartier Latin after that Koffi also started to ignore him at some point



There were like 6 or 5 generiques in 13e Apotre and each atalaku has his own generique. It was the same concept Koffi had for the EP he wanted to prepare in 2012 called "Mwana ya Abacadabra". Which was then recorded  to counter Power and Boite Noire which both not ended up by getting released in December 2012. Equalizer, Tresor Nzinga and Aspirine having each their own generique. But for whatever reason, Koffi decided to later to change his mind and give those generiques to Cindy to animate on them and adding 3 remix versions of his rumba's to make from it Cindy's EP (called 6-6-6) to celebrate her 6th year in Quartier Latin.

From the 5 generiques made next to Selfie, only Tuer de Lion had some succes the year after it, the moment the videoclip got released on youtube. It was due to people linking the generique to Papa Wemba's death who passed away one month before the videoclip came out and the clip being strange. Tuer de Lion means in French (The Killer of Lions), Koffi had joined Lions Club and people of the streets claiming that Papa Wemba broke the oath by openly attacking Koffi Olomidé on tv. However they forgot that the song was part of 13eme Apotre and a not single recorded in 2016.




from 0:57 min and 1:03 min



Many bandleaders would criticize Koffi in interviews or through their spokesmen about releasing 39 songs. The funny thing is that most of them all ended up by recording around 40/50 for their coming albums due to not being able to get quick through music (Them not performing in Europe anymore, vip-concerts being peanuts and he era of companies like Bralima (Primus) and Bracongo (Skol) giving big money for public concert being finished). They would try a different strategie by picking 30 songs max and release it in volumes, which also didn't work well. In most cases just 5/4 songs really hung in peoples head and the rest quickly being forgotten. 

The person that attacked Koffi the most for 13eme Apotre was BCBG spokemen Blanchard Mosaka. Normally they hadn't the right to talk because he hadn't released an album since Soyons Serieux in 2011
Tbh if he promoted his atalaku Generique things would have been different cause the Atalaku Generique were rely really good especially Yesu, Tour De Lion and the other one which I forgot the name, if he did that and did max three big rhumbas the album would have been good, and for the rhumba debate, people are sick of rhumbas and dancing to those boring ass songs, Congolese music is Ndombolo not Rhumba, I get that Fally and Ferre manage to do it and be successful in that but man come on, all rhumbas albums are getting so boring.

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i understood it would be difficult from mbuta likasu's album which was quite balanced, and it went nowhere,and now he'd could be crawling for the guys who give him money to defend...
242 roga really neglected it, only two clips done ingratitude and the sonor song and it was like by one two month after release he was already too pissed with himself of having accepted to let extra musica have an album again or saying to himself that he'd let it flop on purpose so that they clearly understand that its ROGA ROGA who saves their axx and makes them live
my main prayer for the wenge album is that al nzimbi is nowhere there and that makaba stops his electronic drums thing for sebene,imagine what feux de l'amour would be if it had the drum sound of the ndombolo remix all album matching that new era of powerful drum sound about to start  instead of having "soft sophisticated " sound
This guy is a lunatic, why is he so insecure? What happened to him that it makes him this insecure? Sonor was the most loyal member of Extra and the rest were extremely loyal to him

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Congolese Music / Re: I CANNOT RECOGNISE THESE RECENT WMM MEMBERS
« on: November 08, 2022, 06:06 »
bro symplicity who do you see among them as a potential big star in the future?
Iniesta, he has the looks,  the sandd moves and the voice the problem is that it is extra hard to build a cult like fanbase for a solo artist who cane out of Maison Mere now like it is in the past, most fans don't even know how hard of these cats are and outsiders aren't even interested in MMM

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Congolese Music / WHAT ARE ALL THE TYPE OF CONGOLESE VOICES?
« on: November 07, 2022, 22:35 »
1ere voix
2eme voix
Tenor
Baritone
Soprano and then?

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The saltiness in his reaction  ;D



That's desrespectful as fuck

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Congolese Music / Re: APPARENTLY INNOSS'B WAS ARRESTED IN BRUSSELS
« on: November 07, 2022, 17:25 »
No it’s not because of ngulu’s. Those problems already started earlier. It’s because of those former Congolese drugsdealers based in Brussels who were making money in the 80s and 90s, that they are often complicating Congolese people at the airport. Which is their own fault because they were snitching each other because of jealousy and them messing it up for normal people coming from Kinshasa.

Bro, even if there are a milion Congolese being drug dealers Belgians shouldn't group us in one single group, I mean Leopold the 2nd made some very bad thing to our people, cutting hands, Killin people, sticking rubber to the back of Congolese peoole.to then rip it off, but why we don't treat all white people as potential threat? I would create such a huge fit if they tried to do something like that to me in a Belgian airport, because even if a mioion Congolese people d drugs you should treat every peoole w8th respect, I never seen white people being arrested onsuspicionof taking drugs only after being discovered but yet with us we are all guilty until proven wrong

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Congolese Music / CELEO CLOWNED AGAIN... IN THE COMMENTS
« on: November 05, 2022, 04:01 »


He says that the administration of Kinshasa didn't give him the permission to make the concert, I just watch three minutes because it is painful to watch with dven the interviewer telling him that he was playing and wasn't serious, but Celeo saying that he wanted to create a Derby with Fally and Heritier that's why he announce the 29 and the 25 so he can compete with what he considers his "rivals" the same way Madrid compete with Barcellona, it seems he doesn't like the fact that everyone is clowning him on the comments about the 29th, because whe  the interviewer told him thise things he immediately stopped him.

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Congolese Music / Re: APPARENTLY INNOSS'B WAS ARRESTED IN BRUSSELS
« on: November 05, 2022, 02:45 »
he's been released and continued his way to america with his brother prince
from what he was saying out of nowhere they suspected him that he came with drugs and bombs or whatever like that and came with dogs specialized in detecting the smell and they found nothing and he did a quick instagram live where they realised he is an artist and then fans at airport came to take pictures
brussels can be a nightmare for congolese artists a lot of strange things happen to them at zaventem airport
Belgian being racist as usual against Congolese people, these are the same people who cheer for Lukaku then call him money when Belgium is eliminate by competition, there was a case of a Half Belgian Half Senegalese guy who got killed cause he was black a d the punishment fornthe killing that the università the guy were attending with him got given was to write a fucking essa



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Congolese Music / Re: EXTRACT NEW GENERIQUE BY KABOSE BULEMBI
« on: November 02, 2022, 16:22 »

Why does he generste such a little buzzo? Despite him trying to become someone?

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JF Ifonge is speaking about this accident.


This fool lives for these moments.

When dealing with a crowd of 100k it’s a game of statics with stampede tragedies unfortunately. In South Korea just yesterday 149 people died at a massive venue as result of being trampled or suffocated.

I don't know why you call him a fool. He was in QL he had a personal relationship with Koffi,  Mama Amy was treating him like his son, the same cab be said for Koffi's dad, Fally before his conversione to the Christ Life was his pire Petit, so he doesn't say things just to say it, he is trying to enlighten people, yes un a way which is not conventional but he is trying we can't deny that spiritualism bad spiritualism is something that really plagues our music and that 99% of Congoleseartists are convinced that that is the way to become successful, plus go and check Fally's poster for his new album and you will see that JF and all the people who are pressing about this kindoki thing saying it is bad and that all the artist who are in it should stop doing it aren't wrong.

Because he’s sensationalizing a report to drive an arch before it’s fully verified and made official by the proper authorities. Highly insensitive for the family members of the affected who may come across this video.

His past relations with Koffi is irrelevant here - it’s akin to the former Bad Boy artists complaining about Diddy after being in his inner circle 20 years ago - everyone has moved on now
Bro you are not understanding what I am meaning, I said he has relationships with Koffi because he is valid,  meaning that if he is saying the things that happen in the Congolese music world he is probably right, I mean how many people have to come out before we accept as the group that most Congolese music is made by peoole who are deep into bad stuff? Luxembourg, Eboa, Prince, Zobozi, Dakumuda, Victor that Atalaku Koffi, had Mboka Liya all these people said that that thing us prevalent in our music why would they lie, I appreciate JF and what he is doing because in his way he is preventing people from bad stuff happening to them.

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JF Ifonge is speaking about this accident.


This fool lives for these moments.

When dealing with a crowd of 100k it’s a game of statics with stampede tragedies unfortunately. In South Korea just yesterday 149 people died at a massive venue as result of being trampled or suffocated.
About Korea to be completely honest, it is known them, the police told the crowd to flow the instructions to be safe and they didn't listen to the police cause they thought they were in Halloween Costume, about Fally is different, have Fally already said he was sorry for the victim lost? Have he stopped the concert once the voice went out that people started to die, let's not play with ourselves here

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Bringing Gessac back musically is probably the worst choice Wazekwa ever made, the group knew what they were doing when they said they didn't want him, yes in terms of gifts, hype etc. It knight have worked, but it worked only for peoole who knew Gessac, foreign fans and new fans tbh only wanted to see the old atalakus shine, Gessac os killing Cascadeur,  Anti Rebel and that guy with the gloves career, about Livre D'Or Eclipse Mososo, meh, I think he has always been good, but it is kinda like he forgot how to create good animations when Gessac came back Ba'o films was one of the most poorly constructed cries, same for the Gessac crie

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Congolese Music / Re: Fusee Vs Jamaique
« on: October 30, 2022, 21:58 »
Who is most happening between Fusee De Guerera of BCBG and Jamaique of WMMM? Who would carry the day?
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WMMM Till The End of Time


You can't really judge, Fusee has never been forced to be someone else unlike Jamaique, I would love to see Jamaique with his own voice rather them this fucking copycat of Bill Clinton/Ambulance that Werra forces him to be

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Congolese Music / Re: HAS LEGENDE BEEN PIRATED OR WHAT
« on: October 30, 2022, 21:57 »
Love Koffi but he needs to release Legende on all platforms!! How is it that its out in the US and India but not in Europe or Congo yet?
Cause of different time hours for example let's say I put an album on midnight in USA, that midnight in USA will not be the same midnight of Congo or India or whichever place so if I want to release something for the 30th of October some countries will get it the 31st because of different time zones.

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