its also the fans and journalists,notice how when on a rare occasion at least two known people are together to form a new group journalists like papy mboma or naty will ask them straight,who will be the president who will make decisions or especially papy will do even worse and pull something like ' do you know that him as the leader can send you to buy donuts in the corner of the street" or something like that then months after when split start to happen be like "omoni nayebisaki bino ekokende mosika te" indeed about clan wenge,from the moment they really understood the prestige of president role the mess started,nsone started to want to take it by force away from jb when fame got strong with the fact he is a original co founder,jb refused to give it back and started fuelling himself with the idea that nsone is becoming jealous,and same story in bcbg and maison mere where they kicked their threats out to be solid untouchable presidents and its even worse with youngsters now with that phenomenon of the musicians commenting,clapping,laughing or whatever after leader said something,for example gabanna got jealous of how musicians of their group were shouting mokonnnnnnziii,le formidable, boss des boss and stuff like that while he considered himself on par with joss and started going solo again before joining maison mere
i listened to it several times but its not getting to me,not that its that bad or whatever,but not feeling it maybe with time, i know though that anyways its a well prepared generique so it has high chances of succeeding anyways no matter what,once you got the secret you rarely flop big time success wise By the way cedric ya mado just returned from suspension
its in the usual situation of those who overstay in europe the most loyal/patient/related in family or as pire petits of a long time wait,the most hungry/impatient/ambitious... went to active groups,there is at least an ex generation a member in every "major" group,even bcbg made an exception to their usual rule in taking a second bassist from generation a to anticipate sunda moving(sunda was part of a crop wanting to leave if bcbg went to europe so plan b was planned before he even left)
i can imagine how werra motivated the guys" heritier,kapayos,kakol bomoni ndenge nini ssssss nayoki ba petit wana balingi basakana na nkoyi,il faut to bbbbbbbbbbetaaaaaa eloko moko tic au tac systematique un temps balala esila mbala moko ahhhhhh mbrrrrrrrrrrr ahhhhh ngaaa de la foret,ba petits nayebisi bino blaaagueee au coin faut to marquer territoire flamme sikoyo olingi beta na ndenge ya ba coreen to ya ba vietnamiens"
i am pretty sure as soon as it goes viral it will be interpreted as him being a bit on ferre's back to please fally,because at the moment i am talking they are mabanga and final mix away of finishing a song together still about fally, i am hearing warner are trying to book for him a feat with rihanna(jesus christ the boasting if it happens lol) along with the done feat with french artist black m which will be on his rumba album most likely
maybe later i will update when i get more accurate info but for kibens as far as i know he could be easily on 2500,given that he is in the category of the 1000's like they call it in bcbg,the category of those who are the most loyal and with the smallest number of suspensions which has genta,ficarre,him and seguin who are on 1000 to 2000 for seguin,then he has a certain salary as writer(zero song of bcbg exist without at least one sentence he added or changed),his daily studio work for years now, for artistic director,then his normal salary as a bcbg employee,plus the loyalty bonus they voted few years ago at that reunion where fally also participated( which consists in giving every other month or every 3 month max a loyalty bonus to those who have been the most loyal of the group(except rio who lost right to that bonus with his several moments in an out in recent years and his flirting with didi kinuani)
Hahaha. He would make a very effective debt collector. So all the leaders where in on underpaying/not paying the other staff except JB? since you mentioned that he would sometimes use his own money to pay them when they would go to complain to him president.
And I have always believed that it's difficult to be influential in a band if you are an instrumentalist unless you become the undisputed leader like Maitre Franco and Papa Lutumba or Roga Roga. Since that as a guitarist or drummer you are not always in the spotlight.
And who joined earlier between Afande and Amelia? I have always thought that Amelia joined earlier but here on this this thread it says Afande joined earlier.
indeed like mvulusi said alain joined in 86 when i talked about jb paying them it was in private,the money would go like jb werra adolphe masela makaba blaise sharing 90 Per cent of the money the rest given something symbolic,like 50 dollars 100 max but then in private,if they went to jb's house to ask for money for a problem he'd give them and thats partly why(hopefully this part will not be badly interpreted) the group followed him more easily because some of the other leaders even between themselves when one came with a problem bigger than what they share,some were refusing to give money(i prefere not giving names lol) let alone the nobody's of then like ali mbonda,seguin and co
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