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he says he participated against his will,and that the song was meant to be an independent song of aimelia inviting ferre  and when he heard ferre was participating and it was going  into dynastie now he even wanted to refund aimelia   but aimelia convinced him to remain professional,and he said that for him if ferre does not retouch the song afterwards its the best song of the project because its his composition as a

Very sad because even Ferre continues to do very good songs despite he dont work anymore with Tshimanga, Tshimanga is the one who Ferre need to do very special songs with special composition

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he says he participated against his will,and that the song was meant to be an independent song of aimelia inviting ferre  and when he heard ferre was participating and it was going  into dynastie now he even wanted to refund aimelia   but aimelia convinced him to remain professional,and he said that for him if ferre does not retouch the song afterwards its the best song of the project because its his composition as a

Why does Olivier Tshimanta hates Ferré ? What have happened between the two

I would also like to know what happened btwn the two.

It started from how olivier went to participate in werra's album when it got tense and maison mere started poaching the big names of ferre's group,under such circumstances,most groups tend not to like people who have  contact with the rival camp in fear of leaking secrets and things like that,then having been paid good money by werra  olivier went on tv to claim that all the guitars of ferre's songs are his as him the three ferre guitarists aswell as mbetenge who sometimes was guest did nothing on ferre's albums and from that was born the legend that marchouse never plays in studio which people believe until today so marchouse countered by attacking olivier hard
and its from that olivier decided that ferre went too far by allowing marchouse to attack him and that he does not want to be associated anymore with ferre

Olivier is a clown with complexe issues. Ferre is not perfect or a saint but Olivier is a clown

Os he blind from his right eye? That's why maybe he always wears glasses.

Os he blind from his right eye? That's why maybe he always wears glasses.

i think he has the same problem as metro occhio di vetro as you guys over there call it

These stories of Congolese musicians including Wenge Musicians and others having gone to university or college are they really true? When they say diploma what diploma do they mean,is that a secondary school certificate of tertiary education diploma. These guys act like high school dropouts. I had so much respect for Olivier Tshimanga but it's all gone because I realised he was dull despite hanging out with professional people from various backgrounds in Europe. He could by now have learnt to be professional.

These stories of Congolese musicians including Wenge Musicians and others having gone to university or college are they really true? When they say diploma what diploma do they mean,is that a secondary school certificate of tertiary education diploma. These guys act like high school dropouts. I had so much respect for Olivier Tshimanga but it's all gone because I realised he was dull despite hanging out with professional people from various backgrounds in Europe. He could by now have learnt to be professional.

I don't think is Olivier Tshimanta is Congolese people in general, Congoleses have this thing of really hating someone if he dares to say or act wrong towards him, you can say a bad thing about a Congolese person and if he catches you be prepared to not hear about that person again even if you were best friends, Congolese are prideful and they don't really like someone talking or messing them with wrong way hence why Fally situation with Alvarito, Ferré situation with Werra, Papa Wemba with Koffi (even though that was justified) Fabregas with But Na Fillet, Innoss with Bill Clinton and so on, you say one bad thing about me and I find it be prepare to not hear from me again,I am like that too, some days ago a colleague tried to scream at me in front of colleagues and I shouted at him back and I told him that I wasn't his son so he won't be talking to me like that again and that it is gonna be the last time he have spoken to me, my boss made a sex jokes about black people dick size and until that time I had respect him but now TBH I don't even say hi to him when he comes by because I am like that and Ian the same with my friend too, my best friend and my other friends I cut contacts with because they disrespected me and a lot of people might think I am overreacting but I simply don't like people playing with me and this is the most Congolese thing I have and many Congolese are like that, you could be a Master Degree holder, a 2 time University student with Cummma Laude but if you mess up with the Congolese guy in that position you could even be his best friend but it will be over for you

I don't think is Olivier Tshimanta is Congolese people in general, Congoleses

I didn't mean Congolese people in general,I am on about musicians ,they claim to be well educated but the stupidity they get involved in is mind boggling. 

I have a lot of Congolese friends myself and most are very intelligent and educated people so we can't generalise.

Tshimanga has been portraying the image that he is a professional but he's got the same behaviour as the sima ya ndaku,he loves cheap polemic.

I don't think is Olivier Tshimanta is Congolese people in general, Congoleses

I didn't mean Congolese people in general,I am on about musicians ,they claim to be well educated but the stupidity they get involved in is mind boggling. 

I have a lot of Congolese friends myself and most are very intelligent and educated people so we can't generalise.

Tshimanga has been portraying the image that he is a professional but he's got the same behaviour as the sima ya ndaku,he loves cheap polemic.

I explained to you where the behaviour comes from there isn't much more I can do

this situation reminded me of mirage's interview and his stance of olivier,both fit all the pedigrees of being professional having studied
 music and about music both in kinshasa and europe,but could not  avoid letting the "esprit" thing ruining their collaboration

These stories of Congolese musicians including Wenge Musicians and others having gone to university or college are they really true? When they say diploma what diploma do they mean,is that a secondary school certificate of tertiary education diploma. These guys act like high school dropouts. I had so much respect for Olivier Tshimanga but it's all gone because I realised he was dull despite hanging out with professional people from various backgrounds in Europe. He could by now have learnt to be professional.

I don't think is Olivier Tshimanta is Congolese people in general, Congoleses have this thing of really hating someone if he dares to say or act wrong towards him, you can say a bad thing about a Congolese person and if he catches you be prepared to not hear about that person again even if you were best friends, Congolese are prideful and they don't really like someone talking or messing them with wrong way hence why Fally situation with Alvarito, Ferré situation with Werra, Papa Wemba with Koffi (even though that was justified) Fabregas with But Na Fillet, Innoss with Bill Clinton and so on, you say one bad thing about me and I find it be prepare to not hear from me again,I am like that too, some days ago a colleague tried to scream at me in front of colleagues and I shouted at him back and I told him that I wasn't his son so he won't be talking to me like that again and that it is gonna be the last time he have spoken to me, my boss made a sex jokes about black people dick size and until that time I had respect him but now TBH I don't even say hi to him when he comes by because I am like that and Ian the same with my friend too, my best friend and my other friends I cut contacts with because they disrespected me and a lot of people might think I am overreacting but I simply don't like people playing with me and this is the most Congolese thing I have and many Congolese are like that, you could be a Master Degree holder, a 2 time University student with Cummma Laude but if you mess up with the Congolese guy in that position you could even be his best friend but it will be over for you

Papa please stop this nonsense you’re spreading, not every Congolese people are like this. Are Congolese people the only people to fall out and never speak? Are Congolese people the only people to fall out? A lot of Congolese people I know especially being Congolese myself are not like this, even myself.
It’s a human thing it has nothing to do being Congolese, all those things you described as being yourself then fine speak for yourself but don’t try and generalise a whole country on the way you are.

These stories of Congolese musicians including Wenge Musicians and others having gone to university or college are they really true? When they say diploma what diploma do they mean,is that a secondary school certificate of tertiary education diploma. These guys act like high school dropouts. I had so much respect for Olivier Tshimanga but it's all gone because I realised he was dull despite hanging out with professional people from various backgrounds in Europe. He could by now have learnt to be professional.

I don't think is Olivier Tshimanta is Congolese people in general, Congoleses have this thing of really hating someone if he dares to say or act wrong towards him, you can say a bad thing about a Congolese person and if he catches you be prepared to not hear about that person again even if you were best friends, Congolese are prideful and they don't really like someone talking or messing them with wrong way hence why Fally situation with Alvarito, Ferré situation with Werra, Papa Wemba with Koffi (even though that was justified) Fabregas with But Na Fillet, Innoss with Bill Clinton and so on, you say one bad thing about me and I find it be prepare to not hear from me again,I am like that too, some days ago a colleague tried to scream at me in front of colleagues and I shouted at him back and I told him that I wasn't his son so he won't be talking to me like that again and that it is gonna be the last time he have spoken to me, my boss made a sex jokes about black people dick size and until that time I had respect him but now TBH I don't even say hi to him when he comes by because I am like that and Ian the same with my friend too, my best friend and my other friends I cut contacts with because they disrespected me and a lot of people might think I am overreacting but I simply don't like people playing with me and this is the most Congolese thing I have and many Congolese are like that, you could be a Master Degree holder, a 2 time University student with Cummma Laude but if you mess up with the Congolese guy in that position you could even be his best friend but it will be over for you

Papa please stop this nonsense you’re spreading, not every Congolese people are like this. Are Congolese people the only people to fall out and never speak? Are Congolese people the only people to fall out? A lot of Congolese people I know especially being Congolese myself are not like this, even myself.
It’s a human thing it has nothing to do being Congolese, all those things you described as being yourself then fine speak for yourself but don’t try and generalise a whole country on the way you are.

Esui yo? I see. Kolela the Papa