In his interview with I think Aicha Okoko he said that he became close to Werrason, because arriving in the car with Werra and Maitre Alebe to the reunion at Intercontinental that led the split, which made JB Mpiana see him as a traitor. But here he gave a different version, saying that he became close to Werrason after that they went in 1994 to Zambia for a serie concerts without JB Mpiana. thiking that JB stayed in Kinshasa for his wedding, while Werrason didn't inform him and when coming back JB Mpiana decided to get rid of him from his entourage.