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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on April 15, 2016, 14:19
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werra koffi and exaucee (koffi is exaucee's godfather actually)
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what was the reason of their fall out and whats their relationship like today?
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as far is i know it all started from werra hearing back when koffi was 'with " him against jb and wemba that koffi was speaking bad about him on his back so he took some distance,then the ferre situation and the multiple attempts to steal main members from maison mere worsened it, then also peace between koffi and jb at a period where jb and werra were not making it public yet made it "worse"(and werra even called jb to tell him to be careful with koffi and his double face)
in short,it's not something 'direct" like with wazekwa or recently with jb but more like distance but i think there is still some mutual respect,proof is koffi sent 13 eme apotre cd to werra officially and werra apparently listened it to it and appreciated some stuff and i hear werra also sent some cd's in the past
also one factor outside the pure relationship thing was that in that era were koffi wanted to millions of miles ahead of everybody,werra was doing pretty much every thing he also achieved so he was a threat,koffi even said in private and i think once on tv without realising it that if he had a team like the golden maison mere it would be hard to any other artist to even exist
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I agree archos but Koffi like many other artists fear too much, yes Werrason dominated strongly with Wenge Musica Maison Mere right after the departure of Academia but Koffi did a good job to re-create a Quartier Latin that would completely with Wenge Musica Maison Mere especially from Effrakata (that team from Effrakata & Affaire D'Etat) I realised how much Koffi was so surprised with his own team they reached a different maybe head to head or even above Maison Mere but he struggled to keep that team and I think around 2003 he tried to rebuild buy trying to snatch the big stars of Maison Mere (Ferre, Baby Ndombe, JDT, Heritier, Bill Clinton, Celeo, Flamme Kapaya, Japonais, Papy Kakol & Mimiche Bass) ;D ;D ;D, I wonder how Werra dealt with all those threats and speculations. Koffi sometimes is crazy
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kiekiekie once i was told of one moment in a nightclub with mosaka fally kakol and sai sai's elder brother dolly with fally telling kakol koffi absolutely wants him at all costs and if he wants they can go to montfleury straight away because he was tired of koffi asking him everytime to use his friendship with kakol and flamme to lure them
i think werra even mentioned it in one interview
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Koffi had Titina and Cambodge no need for Kakol. And when Koffi sent 13ieme Apotre how does Werra know that it wasn't a curse, like as soon as he touches it, the cd schocks his hand or something like that.
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I agree archos but Koffi like many other artists fear too much, yes Werrason dominated strongly with Wenge Musica Maison Mere right after the departure of Academia but Koffi did a good job to re-create a Quartier Latin that would completely with Wenge Musica Maison Mere especially from Effrakata (that team from Effrakata & Affaire D'Etat) I realised how much Koffi was so surprised with his own team they reached a different maybe head to head or even above Maison Mere but he struggled to keep that team and I think around 2003 he tried to rebuild buy trying to snatch the big stars of Maison Mere (Ferre, Baby Ndombe, JDT, Heritier, Bill Clinton, Celeo, Flamme Kapaya, Japonais, Papy Kakol & Mimiche Bass) ;D ;D ;D, I wonder how Werra dealt with all those threats and speculations. Koffi sometimes is crazy
When Werrra was deprived of the most of the main Wenge memebers, instruments, & some donors and wanted to move to Canada, Koffi was among the very first to encourage a then depressed Werra to regroup and quickly form what would become MM. However, he did that without anticipating how fast Werra would get big.
Yes, looking back at those times, whether it was the night of the Kora awards when he was genuinely surprised and humbled (afterwards he got carried away with the Quadra Kora praise) or when he arrived, I think a bit drunk, at Stade de Martyrs and realized he had a capacity crowd, he seemed to be struck that his then new and relatively inexperienced QL team helped him reached new heights. He also got legends like Ramazani and Titina who contributed heavily, but still felt insecure because of the talent found in the bands of artists who achieved success at a faster rate.
My cousin - an absolute die hard Wenge and Koffi fan, attended most of the '90s concerts in Kin said on more than one occasion he saw Koffi as a quiet guest with one or two of his admin to the left of the stage, seemingly scouting, taking mental notes of instrumentalists and the younger singers by the way he watched. Getting Titina was a huge coup for him.
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Koffi had Titina and Cambodge no need for Kakol. And when Koffi sent 13ieme Apotre how does Werra know that it wasn't a curse, like as soon as he touches it, the cd schocks his hand or something like that.
When artists give albums I believe it's a genuine gesture, being that its a long standing tradition. Back at Maisha park, Koffi gave Wemba a copy of Monde Arabe and said hopefully he enjoys it. The other participants got copies too.
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Matebu, what I'm saying is that it could be a rotten gift.
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I tend to think people get carried away with labeling actions musicians take to be supernatural/witchcraft related. Have you felt an album shock in your hand?
Not to go too far off topic - having a bit of experience with arranging U.S tours/concerts for some of the artists we discuss, assisting with logistics and ensuring they experience some American culture, these guys are just as we are. At the end of the day it’s big business and the actions they take are to predominantly engender financial success. There’s too much yellow journalism surrounding the genre, which distorts and dehumanizes them. Their musical products made us fans, not the tabloids.
While journalists and sensationalist fans stirred the pot of the JB/Werra conflict, behind the scenes the two and their children sustained a strong friendship. Koffi and Werra may not be on close terms like in the past, but if you look back to every significant event over the years, funerals or something pertaining to presidential administration, you’ll see the both of them together, even chatting. Like Archos stated there’s mutual respect between them.
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i doubt werra touched the cd, i remember a comment from werra in an interview saying jb had sent to mampata soyons serieux cd and one day the driver was playing it and other guys who were in the car shouted to him to remove it not to piss werra and werra himself said "no problem" and listened to album
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exactly matebu witnessed it myself at a bcbg concert when he got along very well with jb,he was there secretly scouting genta abraham fudji and djino and then later one of his petits ya confiance went to approach them with money as a gift and start to talk to them about possibility to join latino,koffi lies big time when he says its always artists
even about what you mentioned koffi was at one grand hotel of werra in 2010 I think and werra dissed him