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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on May 02, 2016, 17:30

Title: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: archos on May 02, 2016, 17:30
https://youtu.be/VVPdR2uJW-w

I have not watched all interview but title suggests something i have already heard him saying in another interview, he said  he would not participate actively in papa's funerals because he is tired of controversy and that fake love most people show there
he is normally is in charge of social affairs at union of congolese musicians whose president is verckys kiamuangana and at socoda aswell which includes those kind of situations but he had never been allowed to do his work properly which is why he created his independent association of "artistes en danger"
he said he is always frozen out when its funerals or problems with big stars because there is a lot of money allocated by authorities and  he found it very suspect that less than an hour after papa collapsed on stage a commitee was already formed as they knew government would release big money,but he is spending days and nights at hospital on the case of former victoria eleison singer malembe chant but neither union of congolese musicians or any musician has contributed in any way to save malembe chant
 so as he is too upset,he'll miss papa's funerals and then participate only at 1st anniversary and he will see if even 10 per cent of all those who were showing up at funerals will be there
 he sings from 4 25
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: SoukousFan on May 02, 2016, 18:59
so are musicians paid to attend a funeral? Smh...
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: archos on May 02, 2016, 19:32
not paid to attend but it has been proven on many occasion that many received money especially in the very  covered funerals where politicians want to be very involved its a golden opportunity to get big money,commitees are made as quick as possible and you always see musicians complaining that they were omitted as they will miss out on that money, or some who are against the system
a guy like wazekwa for example never hesitates to attack the guys involved in that system
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: Bepari2016 on May 02, 2016, 23:53
Archos,
Excuse me! I have been going through older posts(can't blame  me as I am a newbie) .In so doing I heve been encountering the word générique  often! What does it mean?
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: shamala on May 03, 2016, 06:01
Archos,
Excuse me! I have been going through older posts(can't blame  me as I am a newbie) .In so doing I heve been encountering the word générique  often! What does it mean?

And the difference between generique and seben...
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: archos on May 03, 2016, 07:24
 it does mean a song with at least 95 per cent of dancing,whereas a sebene song is a bit like 50 50
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: SYMPLICITY on May 03, 2016, 07:56
Archos,
Excuse me! I have been going through older posts(can't blame  me as I am a newbie) .In so doing I heve been encountering the word générique  often! What does it mean?

And the difference between generique and seben...

I remember asking the question before and members told me a generique is a song that starts and ends with with animation and is fast paced and danceable throughout e.g Seben,Edenda, Loi, Solola Bien, Libre Parcours 1 while sebene is a song that starts slow/differently with a rhumba or traditional  or even coupe de calle and then changes into animation and dance later e.g Top Modele(J.B), Mopao en Or,Koffi Ayiana(Werra) Joao Ndombele(Ferre). Happy to 'pass the  torch'
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: SoukousFan on May 03, 2016, 17:42
Archos,
Excuse me! I have been going through older posts(can't blame  me as I am a newbie) .In so doing I heve been encountering the word générique  often! What does it mean?

My understanding:
Sebene - A part of a song where the instruments are played much more faster and is not slow, like a ballad. It is the part of a song that usually prompts the listener to ''dance''
Generique - A full song with Sebene.

So a Congolese Rhumba song can have sebene, but a Generique is  a full-on Sebene i.e. Instruments are fast and the melody is not slow but fast flowing.
Title: Re: SHAKA KONGO SINGS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PAPA WEMBA
Post by: Bepari2016 on May 12, 2016, 16:04
Merci!