Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on May 05, 2016, 11:46
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https://youtu.be/4y2Fvbk9mxQ
they show an old interview of him saying he had a dream in which a musician died and 3 4 days after kester died,but in that dream he saw it was papa wemba
he says for him papa wemba was purely and simply killed just like kester was, back in the days when he was living with koffi he witnessed koffi talking with his close friends saying they had tried all night long to kill wemba but they could not take their mission till the end because papa was saved by his protections and says that in the near future another artist will be killed like that because there is too much jealousy in that world and also it supposedly grants them more success
he insists he lived with koffi and his room was just next to the one of late papa charles and papa charles told him every of koffi's secrets and he threatened to reveal everything if one of koffi's brothers replies
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Wow this is some wild accusations, if it's true why would Koffi do that?
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This is the only way "frère" Jean François stays relevant it seems. There are some contradictions in what he says in all the interviews he's done and he's had made "revelations" for just about every artist at this point. For a born again he has quite a bit of anger and undertones of jealousy.
I remember seeing him when he was in QL in 1999; Koffi treated him with esteem along with Savanet Depitcho because they were already established and proven in Wenge el Paris. The two however did not mesh with QL members and, along with Mustafa Nkori, they were slowly dropped from the band. He released an album (with Koffi style songs and mabanga voice ironically), which did not have great success, now he preaches against the successful artists.
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strangely enough he said that same thing about an artist trying to kill another back when kester passed away and that he wondered how they did not fear saying it in from of him but just did not mention koffi's name and wemba's
i cant grant its true,but for dead certain in some periods there is intense and i mean very very very intense spiritual war between two artists the most recent example are fally and ferre,it would go more or less calm for two three months then come back very hard,its very hard to be in any of these two groups without strong protection,there are guys who have either died or ended up very badly behind the scenes in both groups,the most vulnerable being those who had a so so test were they were not accepted straight away but not given a clear no either
https://youtu.be/5mrlZMu75-c
watch here at 12 30 two years ago
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The thing is, if anyone spends time listening to this, he sound like a bitter man. I don't understand why everyone is looking for a reason as to why Papa Wemba died. Poison, satanism, gris-gris....all these are superficial. There more concrete reasons and evidence as to why people die. If you believe that there's something or someone behind the death of another, then you are on a road less traveled which makes you easily convincible. The man lived, he sang for 45 years and died on stage doing something he liked. To me, you can't ask for a more dignifying death.
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Why attack reserve musicans because their irrelevant? And why do they have to attack each other, why can't they just do their business and get on?
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because of jealousy,simple as that,which is why leaders do not really like their musicians to be friends with musicians of rival band because they fear the other leader can try to get secrets through his musicians,for example ever since bcbg maison mere existed there are always been very very close guys but they only made their friendship public the day polemic between both group became ineffective and dead
like jf rightfully said in the second video when kissindjora while being with fally went to see koffi to ask for help for babia,while fally was in europe,fally fired ndjora straightaway because he feared koffi could try to do him harm through ndjora, or how koffi kicked mboshi out in his second quartier latin spell because he went to see fally at home,so its a mix of "normal" and paranormal factors but the thing in common is jealousy
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I remember seeing him when he was in QL in 1999; Koffi treated him with esteem along with Savanet Depitcho because they were already established and proven in Wenge el Paris. The two however did not mesh with QL members and, along with Mustafa Nkori, they were slowly dropped from the band. He released an album (with Koffi style songs and mabanga voice ironically), which did not have great success, now he preaches against the successful artists.
What happened with him and mustafa in QL like why did they end up leaving the group? cause like you said they seemed to be treated well, at least JF was
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I remember seeing him when he was in QL in 1999; Koffi treated him with esteem along with Savanet Depitcho because they were already established and proven in Wenge el Paris. The two however did not mesh with QL members and, along with Mustafa Nkori, they were slowly dropped from the band. He released an album (with Koffi style songs and mabanga voice ironically), which did not have great success, now he preaches against the successful artists.
What happened with him and mustafa in QL like why did they end up leaving the group? cause like you said they seemed to be treated well, at least JF was
They fell victim to plots by the younger and, at the time, less experienced "shegues" (Anelka Fally, Gypson, CNN, etc.) to make their stay in QL as uncomfortable as possible. It all started with Bouro's jealously towards Savanet, especially at Olympia, then after he left for Academia the new members also felt jealousy.
In one of the polemic/interview DVDs from summer 2000 if I recall correctly, the QL members had a victory celebration and strong attacked Savanet when they left QL. Champion esthétique even mocked he way he sings. ;D ;D I've been looking for that footage for years. The mbuakelas days.
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JF will go mad one day!