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Title: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: mvulusi96 on August 07, 2016, 20:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GztuDQHxsg

He joined Wenge Maison Mere in october 2003 with singer Dany Kule, but decided then with Dany Kule to return to Nouvelle Ecriture. Because they felt them self underestimated and returned then after that Les Marquis was created.
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: archos on August 07, 2016, 20:39
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on August 07, 2016, 21:15
I have also noticed the co-founder of MM running things   ;D
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: Manzambi94 on August 07, 2016, 21:22
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
Yes because at the time Wenge was a serious orchestra and you couldn't be just a good musician but you had to have a great personality. Brigade couldn't make it at the beggining because he was really shy, and of course because it was outshined by Bill Clinton and Celelo on the series of intervention rapide and by Roi David in Alerte Generale, the fact he was in QL was like a footballer of Barcellona going on loan to Bayern Monaco or some other really powerful team. In fact since he went back from QL whatever he was doing was a success, Sous-Sol, Mayi Ya Sika, Techno Malewa, Lelele. the same for Cambodge which unfortunately didn't find his luck in Wenge being outshined by Kakol.
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: CM PRINCE on August 07, 2016, 21:22
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
lola was in maison mere? and why did they have it hard to settle?
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: Congomusiclover001 on August 07, 2016, 21:53
Another great soloist and that WMMM team will never be equalled by any other assemble. Nostalgia.....like a mofo! And who is that placeholder for Bill? Goldberg?
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: mvulusi96 on August 07, 2016, 22:04
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
lola was in maison mere? and why did they have it hard to settle?

Lola Muana was tested in Maison Mere in 2005, after that Ferre joined QL. Maison Mere-fanatics were so angry that Ferre Gola joined Quartier Latin and wanted to do everything to let Fally Ipupa, Jordan Kusa & Lola Muana join Maison Mere in revenge.

Brigade had problems with Celeo, when he joined Maison Mere in 2004. Because he saw him as a big treat to his place. I think that he felt that Werrason wanted to replace him slowly by Brigade (Brigade already joined WMM in private before the creation of Les Marquis). Knowing already that Werra never liked from day 1 in Maison Mere and searching also since that day a replacer.

Lola Muana & Cambodge had problems with Kakol. Cambodge talks to this day bad about Kakol in interviews, due to his experience in Maison Mere where spent 7 years without playing a album, big event or Europe-tour.
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: archos on August 07, 2016, 23:47
I have also noticed the co-founder of MM running things   ;D

lool  i thought about it also when i saw it,then later ferre started to give nsone headaches when he got the french papers and moved to paris when he wanted but he was too big to get code 12 :D :D
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: Jdog on August 08, 2016, 09:13
Awulu probably doesn't want this video to get out lol
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: Manzambi94 on August 08, 2016, 14:55
Awulu probably doesn't want this video to get out lol
Awulu who is this guy?
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: Manzambi94 on August 09, 2016, 22:11
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
lola was in maison mere? and why did they have it hard to settle?

Lola Muana was tested in Maison Mere in 2005, after that Ferre joined QL. Maison Mere-fanatics were so angry that Ferre Gola joined Quartier Latin and wanted to do everything to let Fally Ipupa, Jordan Kusa & Lola Muana join Maison Mere in revenge.

Brigade had problems with Celeo, when he joined Maison Mere in 2004. Because he saw him as a big treat to his place. I think that he felt that Werrason wanted to replace him slowly by Brigade (Brigade already joined WMM in private before the creation of Les Marquis). Knowing already that Werra never liked from day 1 in Maison Mere and searching also since that day a replacer.

Lola Muana & Cambodge had problems with Kakol. Cambodge talks to this day bad about Kakol in interviews, due to his experience in Maison Mere where spent 7 years without playing a album, big event or Europe-tour.
For what reason Werra took Celeo if he didn't like it?
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (2004)
Post by: mvulusi96 on August 10, 2016, 00:09
i have notice that after jitrois most of the proven guys who came for tests did not have it easy to settle,brigade came and left and came back,mogratana the same,lola had it hard aswell, cambodge the same
lola was in maison mere? and why did they have it hard to settle?

Lola Muana was tested in Maison Mere in 2005, after that Ferre joined QL. Maison Mere-fanatics were so angry that Ferre Gola joined Quartier Latin and wanted to do everything to let Fally Ipupa, Jordan Kusa & Lola Muana join Maison Mere in revenge.

Brigade had problems with Celeo, when he joined Maison Mere in 2004. Because he saw him as a big treat to his place. I think that he felt that Werrason wanted to replace him slowly by Brigade (Brigade already joined WMM in private before the creation of Les Marquis). Knowing already that Werra never liked from day 1 in Maison Mere and searching also since that day a replacer.

Lola Muana & Cambodge had problems with Kakol. Cambodge talks to this day bad about Kakol in interviews, due to his experience in Maison Mere where spent 7 years without playing a album, big event or Europe-tour.
For what reason Werra took Celeo if he didn't like it?

Because his head and looks were not B.C.B.G., so they did everything to replace him. (Let him stayed behind in forgeins and provincial tours, despite having joined Wenge before Bill Clinton Kalonji). He wasn't even meant to there on there first concert in London, but managed to be there by help of Aldophe Dominguez, Washington Gucci, Claudine Tezo & President Dido. Then Werrason let him stayed behind without a passport expressly in London, when they went to USA & Canada.
He was almost taking back to Kinshasa by the police of U.K. Peoples where then saying to him to ask for asylum in U.K., but his love for his work & Wenge made him refuse it. Then when Maison Mere finally received their visa to perform in Paris (Villejuif), Celeo did everything to be present the same evening and went with Michael Ikala from London to Paris but made then a big car-accident. He managed then wonder by wonder to perform at day. The succes of his animations in Solola Bien, made him stay in Maison Mere. If Bill Clinton would animate Solola Bien lonely like that manquette album of Solola Bien made in the USA http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info/jk021, then Werrason would have already replaced him by an another atalaku and letting him dissapear slowly.

Guy Moller of Victoria Eleison who was close to Elliot Mondombe was normally the guy who was meant to be on Celeo's place, but he was kipnapped by Mambo de Panama after doing a test against his will for Victoria Eleison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwcNpJ3Bv4

here's celeo explaining a part what I said about Maison Mere's first World-Tour. He's also explaing how their first un-official concert at YMCA was (they were guests of Kester Emeneya), without Bill Clinton, Kakol, etc. who joined Wenge later. That concert made Werrason decide to start officialy Wenge Maison Mere, which happend the next week at Bar-Vis a Vis  with Marie Paul as guest.
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: Roméo Seben on August 10, 2016, 06:20
I completely agree with Archos , you can even see it,  Celeo was not in most of video clip in MM( Werrason must really not like the look of celeo) , solola bien no ,  operation dragon no , queue leu leu not in the main generique , then when the big guy left and him stay alerte general yes , témoignage yes , sous sol yes and he left.

I also noticed that the co founder of WMMM running the business  8)

Ehh papa BOSS Papa melina boss AZA BOss ♫♫♫♫♫♫ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: mvulusi96 on August 10, 2016, 08:22
I completely agree with Archos , you can even see it,  Celeo was not in most of video clip in MM( Werrason must really not like the look of celeo) , solola bien no ,  operation dragon no , queue leu leu not in the main generique , then when the big guy left and him stay alerte general yes , témoignage yes , sous sol yes and he left.

I also noticed that the co founder of WMMM running the business  8)

Ehh papa BOSS Papa melina boss AZA BOss ♫♫♫♫♫♫ ;D ;D

It's normal, because Werrason wasn't present that day and Ferre was at that time Chef d'Orchestre.

I felt sorry for Baby Ndombe who was stayed behind in Kinshasa with a 3 weeks suspension without reason, some days before they went to London and then when WMMM returned he received a three monhts suspension without reason with Aimelia Liass humilating him on tv with then some times later fake stories made by Werra's staff, which many are believing till this day. Which ruined his music-carreer.
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: Roméo Seben on August 10, 2016, 09:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me-LS-Sn6M0

Aller gater Marc olivierrrrr gater marc andy mon bêbeeee ♫♫♫♫♫♫
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: CM PRINCE on August 10, 2016, 20:47
I'm sorry but i've gotta say this but werra seems to be so ungrateful he seems to like to punish the guys that stay with him during a seperation adolphe and didier during 4x4 for example or aimelia, kabose, celeo when they could have easily followed le marquis instead of rewarding them no he has to unsettle them and indirectly kick them out by having ready replacements I just don't understand
Title: Re: Archive; the day that Thieery Mogratana came to Wenge Maison Mere (oct. 2003)
Post by: Manzambi94 on August 13, 2016, 21:27
Werrason's behaviour throughout years has brought to what is Wenge MMM is now: a place of talentless thot, YOU HAVE KILLED MY ORCHESTRA NSONE