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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on September 15, 2016, 00:36

Title: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 15, 2016, 00:36
https://youtu.be/E_x-Qm1ka8g

I have not followed the video yet but the first minutes clearly show arc en ciel with blatant signs of assault coming apparently from a leader who have been trying to lure him to his group with money
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: BG-ground on September 15, 2016, 01:24
Only one person comes to mind...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 16, 2016, 02:52
Jiffy recovery Young Makaba...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Jdog on September 16, 2016, 03:48
If he didn't join the first time what makes them think he will join after this? Quatier Latin already has a good soloist, Koffi should just get a young soloist from the street or a reserve one.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: shamala on September 16, 2016, 05:19
You mean you get beat because you refuse to join????
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: shamala on September 16, 2016, 05:38
What is going on?
https://youtu.be/SHw6zT_TZ8E
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 16, 2016, 09:16
What is the point in getting him beaten up for not joining your team? This is sickening! God be with you and keep you,Arc.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 16, 2016, 10:06
unfortunately such stuff do happen,its either physical attacks or they will destroy something on your car
this not the first or unfortunately the last time such things are happening
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 16, 2016, 16:10
I thought like in Hono's case you get beat for leaving not refusing to join but then again this is testament to how leaders respect Arc on Lead.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 16, 2016, 16:55
So because they respect him on lead, they have to beat him up...? I don't get...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Matebu on September 16, 2016, 17:27
Good guitarists have a habit of being beat for reasons I don't fully understand. Olivier Tshimanga was beaten badly in France about 4-5 years ago by combattants, but people speculated that it was actually sanctioned by an artist (or guitarist of an artist) to send a message.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 16, 2016, 19:18
So because they respect him on lead, they have to beat him up...? I don't get...
why you,  need more proof of him being beat?  :o
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 16, 2016, 21:52
So because they respect him on lead, they have to beat him up...? I don't get...
why you,  need more proof of him being beat?  :o
Toolz says the he don't understand how you gonna beat a guy that you admire, but Toolz this way of doing it is like the mafia guys, beating up possibile good opponent that night steal your throne.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 16, 2016, 22:29
Kaisari, do I get you ? No, I don't. You might as well try make me understand your drift as regards this: "why you,  need more proof of him being beat"...   

Thanks Manzambi.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 16, 2016, 23:59
 i think kaisari is saying that unfortunately the fact somebody get pissed to the extent that he orders people to do that proves arc en ciel is now recognized as a top soloist
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 17, 2016, 03:12
Kaisari, do I get you ? No, I don't. You might as well try make me understand your drift as regards this: "why you,  need more proof of him being beat"...   

Thanks Manzambi.
Why? Do you need proof of him being beat or do you need Kaisari to proof read his comments? Manzambi gave you a hint but Archos broke it down; maybe you should thank him too Tools.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: shamala on September 17, 2016, 05:02
Just give him lotsa and lotsa money. A house etc
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Matebu on September 17, 2016, 07:49
Just give him lotsa and lotsa money. A house etc

But these are only short-term appeasements; some singers/instrumentalists are beginning realize that loyalty can offer more long-term stability.

Why join a band where you'll likely be kept as a temporary trophy piece as result of x boss trying to weaken the other band?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 17, 2016, 09:25
Kaisari, I asked a simple question for I didn't get your standpoint...Communication takes place when the other person you are talking to understands whatever it is you are saying.  I expect you to answer and stop asking questions that I dont think need answers to.
 It didnt make any sense to me why Arc would be dealt with in that awkward way simply because he is very good at his job and he wouldn't want to leave his present boss.That brought about my question.  So it would have been better if you read and move on whilst those who have got the appropriate explanations for that tell me.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 17, 2016, 09:53
i think kaisari is saying that unfortunately the fact somebody get pissed to the extent that he orders people to do that proves arc en ciel is now recognized as a top soloist
Yes but again you can't beat people in that way like that, unfortunately Koffi is untouchable, and if Werra or Wenge try to make any revenge actions, it would be even worse.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 17, 2016, 12:21
Kaisari, I asked a simple question for I didn't get your standpoint...Communication takes place when the other person you are talking to understands whatever it is you are saying.  I expect you to answer and stop asking questions that I dont think need answers to.
 It didnt make any sense to me why Arc would be dealt with in that awkward way simply because he is very good at his job and he wouldn't want to leave his present boss.That brought about my question.  So it would have been better if you read and move on whilst those who have got the appropriate explanations for that tell me.
This thread is about the Talented-Lead,  Arc, that got hacked in the head not for sensitive lectures coming from those who "don't get it".
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 17, 2016, 12:46
i saw on congolese tv's members of maison mere saying they would do what it takes on any level including spiritual ones to find who did that and make him pay
 this situation kind of remind me of the situation when christian solo joined maison mere insted of quartier latin and there was endless attacks between zobozi and kisindjora and sankara,it was quite tense
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 17, 2016, 14:45
Why do I have a feeling it might be an ex Maison Mere behind this...What is the word on the streets Archos?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 17, 2016, 15:01
Kaisari,would you keep that blatant rudeness to yourself and and move on?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 17, 2016, 16:48
Kaisari,would you keep that blatant rudeness to yourself and and move on?
Where is the rudeness on my posts in this thread Tools?  Those that got me already answered you...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 17, 2016, 17:11
 ahaha toolz is  maybe not used yet to your "enigmatic" way of talking  lol from what i am hearing its was a move  by koffi for him and ferrari
i'll keep updating if i get more infos
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Toolz on September 17, 2016, 17:48
Archos...lol...I think so.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 17, 2016, 18:30
ahaha toolz is  maybe not used yet to your "enigmatic" way of talking  lol from what i am hearing its was a move  by koffi for him and ferrari
i'll keep updating if i get more infos
I thought that Ferrari left the group
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 17, 2016, 18:48
no its isipa the singer,isipa the atalaku and bouton who left
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Ken Bilele on September 17, 2016, 20:15
Why do people believe that Arc is that good? This guy is not yet polished in his game. I even wonder why some people are chasing his skin. He's overrated for nothing, Kimbangula is better.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 18, 2016, 03:28
Why do people believe that Arc is that good?
Because he is that good. Many did not know how good Kapanga was until Mopao snatched him and Makaba featured him in his Franco tribute.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 18, 2016, 03:35
ahaha toolz is  maybe not used yet to your "enigmatic" way of talking  lol from what i am hearing its was a move  by koffi for him and ferrari
i'll keep updating if i get more infos
I thought he was gunning for Eboa and Bouton.  BTW did Bouton take a break from music or he left for a solo career?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on September 18, 2016, 04:19
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 18, 2016, 06:13
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
What has Tolbert done?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Congomusiclover001 on September 18, 2016, 08:54
So we beat up people now to prove a point? If Koffi and QL are behind this, then maybe it's time for Koffi to wrap it up. If he has knowledge of this and did nothing to stop it from happening, then he (Koffi) is at the end of his rope and nerves. And even if Arc en Ciel was no Kapaya, this action taken by the people who attacked him just showed that he's now up there with the big name soloists. We gotta do better than this and continue to preserve Congolese music which is by now a global music.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on September 18, 2016, 09:26
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
What has Tolbert done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3FXtQ1CTt8
Rest my case here....
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 18, 2016, 09:47
ahaha toolz is  maybe not used yet to your "enigmatic" way of talking  lol from what i am hearing its was a move  by koffi for him and ferrari
i'll keep updating if i get more infos
I thought he was gunning for Eboa and Bouton.  BTW did Bouton take a break from music or he left for a solo career?

yeah indeed koffi has always been a fan of eboa and tried several times but eboa always refused
 as for bouton,what i am hearing is that he has gone to belgium and have not seen around maison mere for ages
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 18, 2016, 17:18
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
What has Tolbert done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3FXtQ1CTt8
Rest my case here....
Please rest your case for there's nothing special here but the animation; nothing worth hacking... ;D
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 18, 2016, 17:26
ahaha toolz is  maybe not used yet to your "enigmatic" way of talking  lol from what i am hearing its was a move  by koffi for him and ferrari
i'll keep updating if i get more infos
I thought he was gunning for Eboa and Bouton.  BTW did Bouton take a break from music or he left for a solo career?

yeah indeed koffi has always been a fan of eboa and tried several times but eboa always refused
 as for bouton,what i am hearing is that he has gone to belgium and have not seen around maison mere for ages
Tcha tcho would be a good fit for Eboa should he decide to part ways with La Zamba. As for Bouton he seems to be going through that youth phase where he has to find himself...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on September 19, 2016, 07:01
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
What has Tolbert done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3FXtQ1CTt8
Rest my case here....
Please rest your case for there's nothing special here but the animation; nothing worth hacking... ;D
Are you serious?
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 19, 2016, 10:07
Arc has to prove himself like what Tolbert has done so far.
What has Tolbert done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3FXtQ1CTt8
Rest my case here....
Please rest your case for there's nothing special here but the animation; nothing worth hacking... ;D
Are you serious?
KAISARI, I always really close to your ideas and I supporto them but come in now listen to the parte after Pajo, how much time there wasn't something like that? And anyway, for Arc-En-Ciel he procedere to be a good guitarist with the crie of Ya Ngiama Gauthier/Nasengaka na ya Didi in Fleche Ingeta, the problema of his is that he steal some partution some times like he stole musselu partition from Japonais, dnd if you wanna be label as the tip soloist last thing you need to do is stealing to me the best soloist un Congo now is Tolbert Solo. Period.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Ken Bilele on September 19, 2016, 10:16
Why do people believe that Arc is that good?
Because he is that good. Many did not know how good Kapanga was until Mopao snatched him and Makaba featured him in his Franco tribute.
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Yeye badoo kabisa.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 19, 2016, 14:14
In other words,  the " keyboard scouts"  are suggesting that the top two artists in Zaire don't know a good lead...
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: archos on September 19, 2016, 15:15
lol at how its so easy to turn any topic into jb vs werra vs koffi....
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: princesab on September 20, 2016, 04:58
lol at how its so easy to turn any topic into jb vs werra vs koffi....

aaaahhhhhahaaaaa
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Ken Bilele on September 20, 2016, 05:25
In other words,  the " keyboard scouts"  are suggesting that the top two artists in Zaire don't know a good lead...

You are forgetting that Agwambo of Zaire does not need the lead for its substance but for instability of the other side.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: KAISARI on September 20, 2016, 15:20
In other words,  the " keyboard scouts"  are suggesting that the top two artists in Zaire don't know a good lead...

You are forgetting that Agwambo of Zaire does not need the lead for its substance but for instability of the other side.
First you got Agwambo and the Jubilant nyama one mixed up i.e it's the lefty one who has the Mula to buy any one.  Arc is already in Agwambo's camp.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: Ken Bilele on September 21, 2016, 06:01
In other words,  the " keyboard scouts"  are suggesting that the top two artists in Zaire don't know a good lead...

You are forgetting that Agwambo of Zaire does not need the lead for its substance but for instability of the other side.
First you got Agwambo and the Jubilant nyama one mixed up i.e it's the lefty one who has the Mula to buy any one.  Arc is already in Agwambo's camp.

Omera I rest my case, let's meet at the Debe.
Title: Re: BIKORINO ARC EN CIEL MAKABA ASSAULTED BY FANS OF ANOTHER MUSICIAN
Post by: SYMPLICITY on September 21, 2016, 12:33
In other words,  the " keyboard scouts"  are suggesting that the top two artists in Zaire don't know a good lead...

You are forgetting that Agwambo of Zaire does not need the lead for its substance but for instability of the other side.
First you got Agwambo and the Jubilant nyama one mixed up i.e it's the lefty one who has the Mula to buy any one.  Arc is already in Agwambo's camp.

Omera I rest my case, let's meet at the Debe.

Whether CORDed or JAParty, we are all one united by rhumba gi sebene