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Title: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 01, 2016, 19:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUwXCDSnScc

hahaha Spino La Djatence dancing Ndombolo like it was Salsa. It could have been big dance-battles in Quartier Latin of Chikito against Fally, if Chikito didn't decided to go to PPU of Wenge B.C.B.G. . I Also noticed that Soleil stole some dance steps of him. I think that Quartier Latin was definitive not JF Ifonge's place, maybe that Wenge BCBG suited better for him. Lola Muana really didn't knew how to dance.
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 01, 2016, 21:26
Yeah I wish chikito stayed in ql I don't know why koffi didn't bring him to bercy he should have  actually liked this lineup of ql
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 01, 2016, 23:08
Yeah I wish chikito stayed in ql I don't know why koffi didn't bring him to bercy he should have  actually liked this lineup of ql

Koffi was sure that he would run away if he would bring guys like him, Alain Kabobo & Spino. Knowing how to sing and dance is not the only option to be on travel-list of Quartier Latin, you must also love you work, working hard for your place, being serious. That's also why someone like Jordan Kusa who didn't participate on the Attentat-album, made it on the Bercy-list instead of Chikito & Alain Kabobo and someone like Mustapha made it instead of the experienced Babia (who had habit to don't show up for months during Europe-tours, had a strange/rude behaviour and becoming more more addicted to drugs) and Gypson above Soleil Wanga (who didn't knew how to dance at that time). JF Ifonge was very lucky to have French papers otherwise Koffi would let him stay also behind in Kinhsasa. But otherwise it's unfair for Chikito because he created the choreography of the Attentat-generic and that of the Bercy-Intro. 
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: masatomo on December 01, 2016, 23:44
Yeah I wish chikito stayed in ql I don't know why koffi didn't bring him to bercy he should have  actually liked this lineup of ql

Koffi was sure that he would run away if he would bring guys like him, Alain Kabobo & Spino. Knowing how to sing and dance is not the only option to be on travel-list of Quartier Latin, you must also love you work, working hard for your place, being serious. That's also why someone like Jordan Kusa who didn't participate on the Attentat-album, made it on the Bercy-list instead of Chikito & Alain Kabobo and someone like Mustapha made it instead of the experienced Babia (who had habit to don't show up for months during Europe-tours, had a strange/rude behaviour and becoming more more addicted to drugs) and Gypson above Soleil Wanga (who didn't knew how to dance at that time). JF Ifonge was very lucky to have French papers otherwise Koffi would let him stay also behind in Kinhsasa. But otherwise it's unfair for Chikito because he created the choreography of the Attentat-generic and that of the Bercy-Intro. 

I thought JF Ifonge created the choregraphy of the Bercy-Intro. Zobozi said they selected Jordan Kusa instead of Soleil for the Bercy-list because he was too skinny and he wasn't really a great dancer.
It's incredible how Koffi had a huge list of singers at that time I guess he had no choice because he had to rebuild QLI in 1999 even if he was depressed (because he was missing Bouro and Modogo) and Papa Wemba dissed him very hard at that time he had to respond.
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 01, 2016, 23:51
Yeah I wish chikito stayed in ql I don't know why koffi didn't bring him to bercy he should have  actually liked this lineup of ql

Koffi was sure that he would run away if he would bring guys like him, Alain Kabobo & Spino. Knowing how to sing and dance is not the only option to be on travel-list of Quartier Latin, you must also love you work, working hard for your place, being serious. That's also why someone like Jordan Kusa who didn't participate on the Attentat-album, made it on the Bercy-list instead of Chikito & Alain Kabobo and someone like Mustapha made it instead of the experienced Babia (who had habit to don't show up for months during Europe-tours, had a strange/rude behaviour and becoming more more addicted to drugs) and Gypson above Soleil Wanga (who didn't knew how to dance at that time). JF Ifonge was very lucky to have French papers otherwise Koffi would let him stay also behind in Kinhsasa. But otherwise it's unfair for Chikito because he created the choreography of the Attentat-generic and that of the Bercy-Intro. 

I thought JF Ifonge created the choregraphy of the Bercy-Intro. Zobozi said they selected Jordan Kusa instead of Soleil for the Bercy-list because he was too skinny and he wasn't really a great dancer.
It's incredible how Koffi had a huge list of singers at that time I guess he had no choice because he had to rebuild QLI in 1999 even if he was depressed (because he was missing Bouro and Modogo) and Papa Wemba dissed him very hard at that time he had to respond.

Zobozi was not right, do you it think that it made sens to replace a tenorist by a 2eme voix singer ? He just wanted to diminish Soleil who replied very hard against him, after that Zobozi claimed that he, Gipson and Montana where gay. According to Chikito it was his choreography and in the videos of those times you can see many parts of those choreographies back in his solo-dance parts even IN some of videos of his time in Wenge BCBG.

 It was very difficult for Koffi to select the right singers, because after the Academia split he recruited more than 50 singers, from where he selectioned 16.
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2016, 03:08
Personally I would have brought chikito to bercy and let him participate in attentat koffi blew his chance with him imagine chikito vs fally vs bouro in a dance battle loool jf was crazy and why do I have a feeling lola was brought to bercy cause of who is dad was koffi was bragging about it and even said he's bringing him go bercy even though he was a great singer but lacked a bit of dancing but wasnt as bad as eric tutsi lol
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Jdog on December 02, 2016, 08:39
Fally and the guy in the Orange were the best dancers. Lola was a bad dancer but at least he tried.
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: archos on December 02, 2016, 11:21
mvulusi zobozi was actually right  in the sense that soleil did parts which were jordan's in attentat since he had better workrate in singing,but then jordan won on bercy since dancing was very important, in those concerts of that era it was vital to have as much as possible guys with the best  mix of charisma,looks,dancing  and singing skills
as for jf,he missed part of the last days of rehearsals since he was jailed  in kinshasa but he arrived back in europe hours before concert and he did contribute to choreography surely along with chikito
like you said jf seemed more made for clan wenge especially bcbg (jb being his idol of then)
in the lists for europe  where there are many singers the role does not matter anymore priority goes to those  who are more able to pull a great show so you can have a tenorist who is there instead of a poor 2eme voix dancer and vice versa
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Matebu on December 03, 2016, 22:11
https://youtu.be/Mg2rYbTVDHs
With a bit of banter from each singer  :D

At the very end there's a tiny snippet of his Loi performance at the Kora awards in South Africa, which had Michael Jackson and Nelson Mandela in attendance. After he won a Kora and performed with Nayanka Bel
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: SoukousFan on December 04, 2016, 01:15
Guys those Salsa moves had me in tears
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Toolz on December 04, 2016, 12:20
Awww...Soukous Fan...Memories, I guess?
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: SoukousFan on December 04, 2016, 13:21
Awww...Soukous Fan...Memories, I guess?

Laughing out loud tears
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Toolz on December 04, 2016, 16:53
Lol...Oh ok...I get. Lol
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Matebu on December 06, 2016, 07:29
Studio preview; showing why he's indisputably one of most talented. The very last song didn't make the cut on Attentat
https://youtu.be/OEX6fqdPQrI
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: Matebu on December 08, 2016, 22:21
Fin
https://youtu.be/9xy74WKfGlE
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 08, 2016, 23:42
Fin
https://youtu.be/9xy74WKfGlE

2:42 min, looks like JF Ifonge didn't understand Koffi's message and on 3:40 min he was about to sing, but that part was skipped. I think now  that what Soleil said about JF was true, that Koffi at a moment regretted to have brought JF to Kinshasa. 

From 0: 27 min It's Fofo Le Collegien talking, who just returned to Quartier Latin (after having been bassist of QL in past, during the Henriquet, Elle et Moi et Rue d'Amour-days). The departure of Popolipo and Do Akongo gave him space to be a really important key-member of Quartier Latin, being already really talented (playing Solo, Mi-Solo, Rhythm, Bass & Arragements). it look like Koffihad at that time already the idea to unsettle slowly Do Akongo & Popolipo, knowing that Fofo Le Collegien could easily fill the gap. The same case with Tshe-Tshe de Balle for Champion, but he was not patient and decided to join Academia who was looking for a drummer and with Spino la Djatence for Savanet Depitcho, he joined Wenge Tonya Tonya after that Montana gossiped about him to Koffi otherwise he could have a promising career in QL, like Soleil.

from 0:50 min Deba, who was nicknamed O'neal by Koffi, due to his length. unfortunately, we could not really discover his talent like others in Quartier latin, due to his choice to follow JF Ifonge, Depitcho and Ondo in Quariter Latin A.G.B.
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 09, 2016, 02:48
Wasnt it koffi who brought JF in after zenith 98 before the departure bof sam and co then why would he regret bringing him in the group? Yes Spino, mustafa and chkkito would have had promising careers in QL if they didn't leave so early
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: archos on December 09, 2016, 11:28
 jf and depitsho were not really liked in quartier latin by the members,if both spent even a month there its because koffi loved them(to extent that jf was living with mama amy and late papa charles instead of renting like he easily could have)
indeed jf at that time was negociating with blaise bula to  join bcbg next to his idol jb but then koffi took him from brussels back to africa
mvulusi there was also a little issue which went against jf and depitcho its the  fact a couple  of groupies prefered them than the boss so it created a little upset aswell
Title: Re: Archive; Koffi Olomidé sur la route de Bercy - Séance de Répétition (Partie 2)
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 11, 2016, 00:24
jf and depitsho were not really liked in quartier latin by the members,if both spent even a month there its because koffi loved them(to extent that jf was living with mama amy and late papa charles instead of renting like he easily could have)
indeed jf at that time was negociating with blaise bula to  join bcbg next to his idol jb but then koffi took him from brussels back to africa
mvulusi there was also a little issue which went against jf and depitcho its the  fact a couple  of groupies prefered them than the boss so it created a little upset aswell
do you think jf would've lasted long in bcbg if he joined?