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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on December 26, 2016, 01:18

Title: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 26, 2016, 01:18
https://youtu.be/mj1O5dYkEek

 He says monsoh was not happy that he started getting more independent in terms of producing own songs and did not not want their collaboration to end but him monsoh was saying that fally would nothing without him because he is the man who did him and he says since its like that he can feel free to "do" other artists like him, they do not talk to each other anymore monsoh does his business and so does he and its perfect like that but they are not enemies
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Matebu on December 26, 2016, 01:39
Haha, he was legitimately shocked when they played his first footage in QL, then the awkward silence when the picture with Monsoh and him came  :D

The story with Monsoh seems to be the same with just everyone he fell out with (Magic System, Nayanka Bel, Meiway, Gadgi celi, Jocelyne Labille, Les Garagistes, Koffi and more). In a drunken rage, Arafat DJ went even further and called him out about his homosexuality

When I spent time in Abidjan, he made the news there when he became a producer for Ma Famille, one of the most popular and longest running Francophone dramas. He began to push out other producers, then diluted the show until it was canceled. Right afterwards Fally was his main focus
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Toolz on December 26, 2016, 07:10
Why would you want to own and control people's life simply because you are their producer?  Smh! Good those who saw the red flag picked their shoes and ran before it got too late for them. 
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 26, 2016, 12:28
 his reaction on the part of him dancing in 1999 reminds me of when he was shown his rant against jb back when there was the first big conflict between jb and koffi and  he covered his face with his hands out of shame and said that is outside the fact of losing his parents and what people say about it the worst memory of his career
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 26, 2016, 13:51
his reaction on the part of him dancing in 1999 reminds me of when he was shown his rant against jb back when there was the first big conflict between jb and koffi and  he covered his face with his hands out of shame and said that is outside the fact of losing his parents and what people say about it the worst memory of his career
Is this on youtube?
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Matebu on December 26, 2016, 15:29
Polemic video is YouTube; I'm not so sure about the reaction
https://youtu.be/jjqBvjmItUE

The camera filter at the beginning makes it look like a western cowboy film  ;D Probably the only instance where Fally made a total fool of himself by breaking character.

The mbuakelas the band members did made leaders feel very good in that moment. The embarrassment now goes both ways for QL and BCBG members who were forced to diss their idols
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 26, 2016, 15:53
Polemic video is YouTube; I'm not so sure about the reaction
https://youtu.be/jjqBvjmItUE

The camera filter at the beginning makes it look like a western cowboy film  ;D Probably the only instance where Fally made a total fool of himself by breaking character.

The mbuakelas the band members did made leaders feel very good in that moment. The embarrassment now goes both ways for QL and BCBG members who were forced to diss their idols

there are many other videos of Fally from the polemic era, where he made a total fool of himself. I remember that 2mukwata uploaded a video where he, Jordan & Gipson were attacking Papa Wemba & Apocadero (who was almost crying at the end on the video) with journalist Thierry Pinzi acting like a kind of arbiter. But it seems that is deleted.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 26, 2016, 16:15
https://youtu.be/mj1O5dYkEek

 He says monsoh was not happy that he started getting more independent in terms of producing own songs and did not not want their collaboration to end but him monsoh was saying that fally would nothing without him because he is the man who did him and he says since its like that he can feel free to "do" other artists like him, they do not talk to each other anymore monsoh does his business and so does he and its perfect like that but they are not enemies

I remember in the days of French Kiss, where Fally openly said in a interview with Noella Madinga or Naty Lokole that it wasn't going well between him & David Monsoh and that he wasn't happy with their collabaration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2GuBPTi1-s

I this interview of DJ Arafat, Arafat said that the feud of David Monsoh against Fally was that Fally discovered that David Monsoh stealing his royalties from the Jukpa-song with J. Martins, which was a big hit in nightclubs of Paris & Africa.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 26, 2016, 17:28
https://youtu.be/TSWnsea-jb4

here he says he thinks monsoh is gay because one day they were in a car and monsoh touched his dxxx and said oh it seems its big and stuff like that and that monsoh took beynaud to prove him a point
out of topic btw i am hearing  that heritier is already unhappy about a couple of things
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Toolz on December 26, 2016, 20:25
David Monsoh! Smh!
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 26, 2016, 20:32
Don't deal with fags, in Life like in the music.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 26, 2016, 21:43
https://youtu.be/Se6jNVvNeQA

here  again he talked about it and said monsoh promised him that if he accepted he'd grant him feats with guys like his idol lil wayne and other american stars
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Toolz on December 26, 2016, 22:20
That man has lost himself in vanity. He does not talk much so you can never tell what he is up to whereas beneath the calm mien, he is something else.
 Moral: Never judge a book by its cover.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Matebu on December 26, 2016, 22:32
lol. Let's also not forget that Ferre and JB both dropped him after briefly collaborating with them. If Héritier decides to part ways with him I don't think he'll have another artist to work with unless he finds naïve talent. He dropped Djino like a rock once he landed Héritier 2 years ago.

He tries to defend himself here:
https://youtu.be/57jNK6v1MMo

Héritier is becoming more conscious of the realities (or maybe he is already)
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Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: mvulusi96 on December 26, 2016, 23:34
Personally I don't believe that Fally would succeed in his Solo Career if David Monsoh wasn't the excecutive producer of Droit Chemin and his manager. Because David was the man who convinced Fally not to show up anymore in concerts of Quartier Latin(when the album was released) and in a later stadium to let him leave Quartier Latin. The same David Monsoh who knows Koffi that gets angry easily, invented the "mise en disponibilite" strategy for Fally. In the hope that Koffi would fire Fally from Quartier Latin, with the idea that people would turn their back then to Koffi and hate him and see Fally as courageous person and support his album with the end of Koffi's carreer (David wanted to revenge Koffi, due to a political problem of Ivory Coast). His strategy didn't really work out like planned, but it surely created polemic between Fally and Koffi, which was indirectly the cause of the succes of Fally album (the album wasn't really a succe s the first two months), with people getting more and more interested in Droit Chemin and Liputa becoming a number one-hit. David Monsoh tried to do similair things with Heritier last year (with that whats-up video) and in 2012 (when Werrason apparently slept him during a concert) but I didn't work out, because Werrason ignored him. Knowing already since years that Heritier was looking for a good strategy to leave Maison Mere with a big buzz and succes and that David Monsoh was behind those ideas.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 26, 2016, 23:50
 it was late ladi luya who gave fally the mise en disponibilite idea when fally was consulting him with the likes of agazul and co as he wanted a soft way to leave,the real revenge of droit chemin i think was not to make koffi sing at all(proof is coincidentally this year for the first time they are talking to each other again seriously boom both reveal indirectly that they are working on something together)
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Jdog on December 27, 2016, 00:57
Lol there was a awakrd  silence when the picture o Fally and David came up. Fally  has to give credit  to David Monsoh because he opened a lot of doors for Fally. And why didn't the collabs with JB and Ferre not work out and didn't he atleast want Mignon Abrham in the past. And David do Djino dirty by just ignoring him once he started to officially get Heritier. To me Arafats idol seems to be Bill not Lil Wayne. And if David Monaoh really touched him like that Arafat should've knocked him out cause that's gay.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Jdog on December 27, 2016, 01:04
Don't deal with fags, in Life like in the music.
No man you could make money with anyone, unless they've dne something like kill someone close to you or have some issues like being non-reliable then doing business with that person themselves shouldn't be a problem regardless of their race, sexual orentation etc.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: archos on December 27, 2016, 01:13
arafat himself said the artist he admires the most is lil wayne then bill in africa
yes of course he had to give him credit but its always a bit of 50 50 just like when the same fally was in latino koffi gave him stardom he gave back to koffi loyalty hard work and relieved koffi a lot in that almost second leader role
it seems in bcbg monsoh's target was fudji which he saw as the most complete of that generation of 2nd PPU but fudji was not interested as he wanted to prove himself in group a lot before leaving one day
about djino i believe its more djino who went towards monsoh than the other way round as in that mpunda tour they could talk to him and the way things went kind of confirm it even before heritier releasing retirada monsoh did not put same level of energy as usual and recently i heard djino himself say in interview that one of the big reasons of their fallout is that  monsoh wanted him to sacrifice his mother
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Toolz on December 27, 2016, 04:39
Mvulusi, there is a saying in my place that goes thus : " a bad child has his days too ". However seemingly bad someone is, there is always a good side to such a person. David Monsoh is an artiste manager/music producer/promoter and what have you.  He knows all the pros and cons of the music industry and production.  He is a strategist- he knows what will work for A or B after studying the realities surrounding all the people he has worked with and that is what he uses to poach musicians to his camp.  He is good at his job, it is just that his personal demons invariably got a better part of him. And that has overshadowed his positive side.
Title: Re: FALLY IN ALL HONESTY ABOUT HIS FEUD WITH DAVID MONSOH
Post by: Toolz on December 27, 2016, 04:52
Jdog,money is not everything. One has got to be careful.  You don't have to wait till someone does something sinister to someone close to you  before you will know that you have to run or see that you can't have any dealings with such a person.  We don't have to become victims before we learn.  We can learn from others' past mistakes too.