Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on January 25, 2017, 22:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AWavi1PSSA
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music was really sweet these years,now groups are the boss plus sometimes 3 4 friends and then random employees
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Rio and kibense deserve to be given an award for their loyalty....
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Hahaha I loved jb doing the animation 1:48 and the way they were dissing maison mere ;D ;D
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Rio and kibense deserve to be given an award for their loyalty....
Wow I think thats the nicest thing you've ever said about them lol :o
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this video alone shows how different polemic from the past was
as surprising as it is there was worse things then than now but at least here you could feel it was mainly banter while today its deep hate
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this video alone shows how different polemic from the past was
as surprising as it is there was worse things then than now but at least here you could feel it was mainly banter while today its deep hate
Totally agree at least it pushed them to produce quality music to top their rivals now it's all about stupid polemic they better put their strenght to put better music instead of boring rumbas
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what happened to Monica Seles
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she passed away 3 years ago
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https://youtu.be/uNiaCJ2DY_8
guys like heritier bragging about pulling a crowd at airport are quite funny now that's one hell of a crazy crowd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msuw-Nkr4Rw
Wenge BCBG'S arrival in Kinshasa from the Ndjili-Airport till the GHK. Breaking their own record of crown of the previous year and that of Maison Mere 2 months earlier. I wonder if they would ever welcome Fally, Ferre, Heritier & Fabregas like that in their carreer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNrUKXXEUbk&t=6s
JB's arrival at the GHK (at that time called Intercontinental) annoucing the Stade des Martyrs-concert with Miette Shegue, Nono ba Diamants, Marcation, Monica Celeste & Alain Mpela. Many people awaited also Aimelia arrival, but he stayed Europe, something what disspointed many BCBG-fans. hahaha I found that Nono & Marcation exaggerated with wearing Indian clothes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn2LeIArnk
JB Mpiana arrival in Stade des Martyrs. He was the first artist to really fill the stadium, while Werrason, Papa Wemba, Koffi Olomide & Emeneya who all performed their before him failed to do that. After this concert the war begun between Maison Mere & BCBG about filling Stade des Martyrs more than the concurrent, like they did the earlier that year with concerts at Palais du Peuple
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyCIKAc7GPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs5ApN6VjJU
Here is Rio trying to fill Aimelia's gap.
Mopao & Nsone where not happy that JB Mpiana filled the stadium. I wonder how Werrason was able to get so much esteem after the Wenge-split from his elder brothers Tabu Ley, Verckys, Pepe Kalle, Koffi, Ben Nyamabo, Defao, etc. even from his sisters Mbilia Bel & Tshala Muana and the late L.D. Kabila with his governement, while JB had nobody on his back, except Papa Wemba and people of his tribe. What went wrong from the split till the Titanic-days ? Was it because he disrespected Tabu Ley without knowing during the negotiates to bring Wenge 4x4 back ? or was it the interview he made before Titanic where mocked Werra that he could only perform in quarters like Masina, Kingasani, Ndjili (which made many fans of him in those quarters who followed him after the split leave him for Werra)
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All of those guys were probably jealous and felt intimidated by JB's success at the time. They were cool with werrason because he wasn't a threat to them yet.
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indeed part of that but also how werra remained with only ferre masela mabanga japonais ali mbonda it attracted a lot of sympathy so even with the tribal division bandundu vs kasai werra still got support of kasai artists bar papa wemba
lol on another note seguin played well funny how it was almost not felt that there was a change of drummer there and in zenith and jb made me laugh with that spin move while doing his solo dance,shows how much those guys were throwing it all to win fans over
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Why do I feel Werra doesn't get the respect he deserves in this forum and especially from the senior members? Granted that he's not that flamboyant vocalist like JB, Mpela, Koffi, Ferre or Fally but his work speaks for him. There's more to music than just being able to sing. Felix Wazekwa who isn't such a spectacular singer doesn't get as much spite as Werra does.
Accrediting Werra's success and popularity to "sympathy votes" and as a result of "stuff said by JB" is being dishonest. The guy had and still has a plan which he executed to near perfection. His seemingly more gifted peers from Wenge have literally fizzled off from the music scene including the revered Papa Cherrie and Werra is still going strong. At what point are we going to accept that there are probably a couple of things about the music business that Werra understands better than the rest?
Maybe It's time for JB to start giving us more that just being "a jolly good fella" if this low key vibe on Werra is going to be sustainable. Otherwise let's give Werra credit for being there during the storm, riding the storm and still standing tall.
And I'm saying this with a lot of respect for the senior members. I learn a lot from you but I'm just not too keen with the Werra "bashing" if I can call it that for lack of better word
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i did not say werra became succesful because of sympathy NO WAY i said and werra himself has no shame in confirming it that he was very down after the split so the artists mentioned supported him in his early months/years and his natural determination and hunger did the rest
he deserves the fantastic career he has had he has bounced back exceptionally well from that period
i believe you misunderstood me(since i was the one talking about sympathy)
i think every of us knows very well the flaws and positives of jb and werra's career
the days of always comparing them too seriously are gone
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indeed part of that but also how werra remained with only ferre masela mabanga japonais ali mbonda it attracted a lot of sympathy so even with the tribal division bandundu vs kasai werra still got support of kasai artists bar papa wemba
lol on another note seguin played well funny how it was almost not felt that there was a change of drummer there and in zenith and jb made me laugh with that spin move while doing his solo dance,shows how much those guys were throwing it all to win fans over
Archos, You clearly said Werrason attracted a lot of sympathy because he was left with Masela, Ali, Ferre etc. Stop belittling Werrason's success the man stood tall against all odds...I believe he has done more musically than JB Mpiana, in all honesty JB's success is localise. I know JB is your friend but stop the bias.
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come on,when i talk about sympathy i am talking about 1998 and its stopped there,and werra himself and his employees said it several times that people and colleagues saw that they were only 5 6 out of 20+ musicians who remain on the maison mere side and that people thought it was over for them and that support from people and musicians which helped werra and co heal their pain of the break and bounce back which is why werra like he says himself is grateful forever to people of the popular areas of kin which were a big support for him
and if you know maison mere's history,you'll know that maison mere indeed started from a street crowd movement which motivated werra and co and musicians who werra thanked openly in intervention rapide
what i am talking about ended from the second intervention rapide was out,so that's 18 years left where he showed his worth in a better context i dont see where is the bias in saying that
thats actually fantastic,few people would have bounced back the way he did
jb on the other hand started in perfect conditions then like i have never ever ever ever ever hidden a lot of things went the wrong way
i am very unlucky these days lol i just cant comment more that three lines except gossip/private life topics without being accused of bias
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You guys definitely misinterpreted Archos post. As he stated he only talked about the time when he was down, which are facts. This has nothing to do with his rise or anything like that. It's just non biased information on what was going during that time. And even if he was bashing him, so what? Anyone can have an opinion. Stop assuming things and just chill out lol.
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i am very unlucky these days lol i just cant comment more that three lines except gossip/private life topics without being accused of bias
I know the feeling.... Hehehe
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Lol this forum is getting too sensitive these days
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Haha indeed; at times it's fan club vs fan club
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Thank you,SebenManiac
Seriously CM Prince and it is becoming tiring. You don't just take words out of context and start flogging it unnecessarily. This ain't nice at all. Let us try to read in context of what is being discussed or said and avoid being clouded with sentiments. The sensitivity is becoming totally uncalled for please.
And Archos please, you do not have to walk on egg shells or in the air just because some of us are disgruntled about whatever your thoughts/posts are. It is called opinion. And we are all entitled to our opinions. So,whenever you have got any info to pass across please do without any hesitation. Thanks.
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https://youtu.be/E95uD1CpqBQ
conseil patcho live... and a seguin then on absolute top of his game
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Did JB perform that year 2 times at Stade des Martyrs ? Because there is a moment in the Papito Mbala-video where he's complaining about the sound and saying that he previous time rain ruined the show.
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yeah earlier he performed there and only could play one song because of heavy rain which was supposedly "sent" and could not blocked as that martyrs was not done with too much preparation
i was in europe at that moment i think and the story i remember is that it was raining only on that side of the road not on the la zamba side then jb took revenge by spoiling with rain two la zamba rehearsals