Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on February 18, 2017, 12:21
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http://www.deezer.com/album/15399897
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QU'EST-CE QUE J'AVAIS DIT 8)
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koffi delivers again. he even managed kirikou's voice with great production and complimentary animation and vocals from himself and the rest of the band. kirikou might not have the voice but there is no atalaku in congo right now creating the same cries he is creating in quartier latin this moment. even the fally that all of us adore is someone lacking in vocal range. presentation can make up for deficiencies like koffi masterfully produced and handled on this track the kirikou voice that the likes of werrason and ferre gola were never able to make attractive and productive.
you guys gotta keep up with the times. sometimes, there is just too much whining and wishing for the "old times" on here. i dare say even the koffi albums with cindy are great. i don't care what you old timers and "purists" on here say. artists are creatures who are always discovering growing and creating. most of you on here don't even know lingala like myself. a congolese friend of mine just explained to me what the scenarios are for the cries kirikou is creating in QL right now and they are very allegorical and funny. i appreciate them even more after understanding the context. we non-lingala speakers need to start appreciating that. the majority of people on here just want the music the way they heard it in their earlier days but what the song actually means or is saying is of no importance whatsoever. well that is just absurd because what the words mean are very important, especially the words of the beautiful language that is lingala.
koffi and artists in general do not owe you anything. they are spiritual beings always existing in the realms where their inspirations creativity and expression take them. appreciate what they discover and relay to the rest of us or keep it moving. what you do not like you discard.
my friends and i still bang "selfie" more than any other generique out there a year plus later. we will soon add "nyataquance" to our replay list no doubt.
mopao is always creating and discovering. even the "old" koffi that all of you on here adore so much was a revolutionary koffi because "tchatcho" was a radical break from previous congolese rumba and is an exclusive koffi genre in and of itself. y'all keep up with the creative and forever curious and adventurous koffi and stop whining too much please. appreciate the longetivity and staying power of the man. in his sixties and he is still taking to the cleaners those who are supposed to be his heirs and the heirs of congolese music.
*by the way. the song is streaming on spotify is on itunes googleplay and everywhere else in case that link archos provided is not working for some people
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I'm not going to front, I'm liking this generique. The acoustics are really good
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no no no Koffi Trump! another generique to nourish us for the whole year!
been abusing Spotify like crazy.
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I'm not going to front, I'm liking this generique. The acoustics are really good
thank you Matebu
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You have the right to like the currents Koffi songs but don't tell to other to stop "whining" about the old days that's their right.
Freedom of speech man.
When you're saying that it seems like we have to force ourselves to like every new songs Koffi Werra and co have released recently.
No man if I (and others) don't like the current trend full of senseless rumbas with sexual references (they going to far man you have to understand lingala) and the same type of lyrics which are always about love, that's our right.
And I think it's justified because our music has never been as low as it is
: repetitive albums,leaders who don't really give their artists opportunities except Fally and Ferre (and I personnally think they can do more) lack of european tours because of thé "combattants" issue, silly polemics who become very personal and stupid and they better put their energy to produce quality music instead of behaving like kids, copying ivoiran nigerian style which is to me very bad move we should stick to our roots and to what we know to do better than others because copying coupe décalé style is not benefic for our music.
So don't be surprised if people who witnessed the 80's 90's early 2000's don't feel the music of Fally,Ferre,Fabregas,Héritier, Deplik,Robinho and don't tell us to not express our thoughts.
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Totally agree with masatomo.
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Rumbalove do you work for koffi or something you can't tell us what to like and who to like we're all different here you may love koffi's new stuff that doesn't mean everyone else has to try and be respectful of other peoples taste instead of being rude theres no need for it on another note this is a decent song and its good that cindy wasn't in the chorus
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You have the right to like the currents Koffi songs but don't tell to other to stop "whining" about the old days that's their right.
Freedom of speech man.
When you're saying that it seems like we have to force ourselves to like every new songs Koffi Werra and co have released recently.
No man if I (and others) don't like the current trend full of senseless rumbas with sexual references (they going to far man you have to understand lingala) and the same type of lyrics which are always about love, that's our right.
And I think it's justified because our music has never been as low as it is
: repetitive albums,leaders who don't really give their artists opportunities except Fally and Ferre (and I personnally think they can do more) lack of european tours because of thé "combattants" issue, silly polemics who become very personal and stupid and they better put their energy to produce quality music instead of behaving like kids, copying ivoiran nigerian style which is to me very bad move we should stick to our roots and to what we know to do better than others because copying coupe décalé style is not benefic for our music.
So don't be surprised if people who witnessed the 80's 90's early 2000's don't feel the music of Fally,Ferre,Fabregas,Héritier, Deplik,Robinho and don't tell us to not express our thoughts.
voila well said masatomo well done
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Rumbalove do you work for koffi or something you can't tell us what to like and who to like we're all different here you may love koffi's new stuff that doesn't mean everyone else has to try and be respectful of other peoples taste instead of being rude theres no need for it on another note this is a decent song and its good that cindy wasn't in the chorus
:D lokola Angelu Central
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Not as good as they went to an actual beef with Ferre for, I'll say Kirikou's part was good but other then that the song is trash.
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http://www.deezer.com/album/15399897
Why aren't you commenting...???
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If only shamala can convert it to mp3....
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Bless your hearts Masatomo and CM Prince...The rudeness these days on the forum is unparalleled. We keep forgetting that this is a public forum and not anybody's home where we "think" we can control what people should listen to or like or which artiste to support. It is becoming tiring when people come on here to throw words around all in the name of what I don't know.
We have all got different musical tastes and that should be respected at every point. Air your opinion without being rude and move on.
Ken Bilele once said it here that it is just music that we should chill and act mature about our approach to things yet most of us are way behind that .
Please we sincerely need mature thoughts on this forum. It is a virtual forum people act like this,I wonder what would have happened if it had been a physical one where we get to see eye to eye.
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Princesab,please save Archos ooo! Don't let them crucify him again if he comments@ why are you not commenting? Lol
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the hysteria that everyone has exhibited on this post is exactly what i am talking about. you guys are up in arms when you are called out but when you guys are crucifying the current quartier latin and everything contemporary about congolese music no one should question you guys and challenge your righteousness. please guys don't act too righteous. popular music is popular music. it is not church music. sexual connotations and innuendos are part and parcel of rumba congolaise long before the 80s 90s and 2000s that you guys are referring to.
to say that i work for koffi because i appreciate my love for this new song of his is exactly what is wrong with the righteousness that you guys are displaying on this forum. so you guys are so right that no one should disagree with you unless they work for the artists they appreciate? come on man. i am a non congolese african lover of this beautiful music. i came too hard on all of you precisely because of this righteousness and high mindedness that all of you are taking regarding the current quartier latin and contemporary congolese music in general. the founder of congolese music wendo kolosoy was kicked out of kinshasa because the catholic church thought his "marie louise" was a song that raised people from the dead. like i said, rumba congolaise is rumba congolaise. it is popular music. it is contemporary music. it is the documentary of what is going on in the congolese street. it is a controversial and ever evolving product.
and on the point about copying Nigerians and Ivoiriens...no one can really tell an artist where they should get inspiration or not. do you guys know that the entirety of rumba congolaise is an immitation of Son Cubano? The music that we love so much today and the reason that such forums as congovibes exist started because of Son Cubano music being playing in Belgian Congo and the Congolese people started to pick up on it, appropriated it and made it their own. So should we throw the entirety of the genre of Rumba Congolaise because its genesis is from Son Cubano? Because it is a copy? Come on guys. The Nigerian artists and Ivoriens who are better than Congolese music at the moment are the grandchildren of Congolese music themselves. These things go in cycle. Rumba Congolaise is going through a recession. Which is normal. Soon it will reign again. But in the meantime let us not be so high-minded and on our high horse as if we really know what being an artist is or what the creative process truly is. When gems like this "Nyataquance" drop let us appreciate them objectively and ride through this slump of Congolese music not reigning all over Africa. The cycle will come around and Congo music will rule again.
Like i said...the whinning is just becoming too redundant on here. it is not as if these Congolese artists are not trying their absolute best especially in this current Congolese climate that is totally against them politically economically and financially. i truly think they are doing their best to be true to their craft. we over here on our computers acting as if we can put a song together really need to start appreciating and understanding that.
*and don't worry about archos please. the post was never about him. don't make it about him. he is a very sensible, measured, and mature contributor of this forum. the elder in fact, going by the quality and impartiality of his contributions. my first and subsequent posts on his initial post was not directed at him but for the rest of you who reacted precisely in the way that i knew you would react because my post dared to challenge your righteousness about congolese music and the current koffi and quartier latin in particular.
*masatomo I agree with you. It is not my intention to force anything on anybody. freedom of speech like you said. for yourself and for me too. I wholeheartedly agree with what you said and if it seems like my intention from the words i wrote is to force anybody into anything that is not my intention believe me. written words are not spoken words. if my written words come off too demanding and forceful that is not intention. i am just challenging a laziness of opinion that is creeping into this forum. it is the usual nostalgia and romanticism of "things were so great back then". it is becoming too lazy and everyone is falling on it and objectivity and genuine criticism becomes impossible because we are just like this herd of like-minded people with group mentality like how everyone is supporting each other in the antagonism and fightback against my initial post. this group-think and herd mentality does not engender an environment of objective, realistic, and healthy criticism and analysis.
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Rumbalova,it is your opinion and it is cool. People have got the right to their opinions and for me,I wouldn't know where the so called "righteousness and high mindedness" you claimed are coming from though. Anyways,it is still your opinion yet you do not have to use it to steer the hornet's nest by throwing words around. People have got the right to their various musical tastes(of which I don't think it is criminal).It is absolutely a free world. There will always be reactions/responses to every post,thought or comment raised on the forum so take it as such and move on. There is no point over flogging issues.
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http://www.deezer.com/album/15399897
Why aren't you commenting...???
i knew it already before it was released,there is good stuff in it but my regret is the overall arrangement,for the same reason i preferred the second selfie version to the original one
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Rumbalova,it is your opinion and it is cool. People have got the right to their opinions and for me,I wouldn't know where the so called "righteousness and high mindedness" you claimed are coming from though. Anyways,it is still your opinion yet you do not have to use it to steer the hornet's nest by throwing words around. People have got the right to their various musical tastes(of which I don't think it is criminal).It is absolutely a free world. There will always be reactions/responses to every post,thought or comment raised on the forum so take it as such and move on. There is no point over flogging issues.
thanks Toolz. Got all your points.
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http://www.deezer.com/album/15399897
Why aren't you commenting...???
i knew it already before it was released,there is good stuff in it but my regret is the overall arrangement,for the same reason i preferred the second selfie version to the original one
Is this the final version or just a live recording?
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final version, but its not the only generique
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final version, but its not the only generique
This is a joke...my prediction about Koffi current music was right...so this man and his dogs made all that noise about "Dance yaba Boss" but only to go and record this rubbish..ehh pardon. Just wasted 6min of my life
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One love,Bro@ rumbalova.
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I don't have Deezer but if this is the one posted by Ndombolinho on his Facebook page then i just have to laugh, it's garbage and the reviews on Ndombolinho's page by hundreds of followers are clear testimony. Even some fans of Koffi are ridiculing Kirikou for his crappy voice and saying of all of the atalukus Koffi has ever had, Kirikou has got to be the worst,some comments in lingala are just too funny,was laughing all day yesterday and today going through the comments. Lol
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https://itun.es/us/LdV9hb
Yea, Kirikou is definitely the most "street"/chégue animateur he's has had - very unpolished. I think he's insisting on giving him exposure because of the present polemic. Whenever that is resolved and the Boss dance gets old, he'll drop him like a rock like most of the QL atalakous before him.
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Where is Tresor Nzinga?
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Hiatus
https://youtu.be/nSlHORS9tos