Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Nkosi on June 02, 2017, 10:10
-
Like politics, music has a lot of cadres who seem to support artists in everything be it good or bad. I do not want to sound perfect or better than others but Wenge Maison Mere is so poorly manged even a five year old baby would tell. They recruit everyday. Some musicians leave even before making it on an album. Werrason needs to check the following:
1. You cannot have half the band leave a few weeks before release of an album and still have the guts to say they are wrong. You are not dealing with babies but adults who reason and they will question your thinking.
2. Music comes with attachments, you cant keep changing musicians like clothes and expect to keep a large fan base.
3. No matter how good an album is if half of the people who sung on it leave shortly before its release, then it will be a flop
3. Why do admins, Kakol and one artist seem to receive favours while those who have stayed longer, are better musicians and remained loyal are sidelined? What kind of management is that? Worse still they are volunteers?? Only street kids would remain in such a band.
4. If musicians leave you to join an artist of their age and generation with only one album, it says a lot about how frustrated they are. All their boss does is to share pictures of his newly acquired mansion in Chicago with his preferred team members enjoying while the rest wallow in poverty despite sacrificing so much for the group. That is simply unacceptable and Congo DR should check this.
5. As time goes all the remaining good ones will go and it will even be difficult to poach from other bands.
Lobeso, Polyster, Arnake, Olivier, Eboa (close), Tadet (close), Mile (close) ...... all these are almost out of the band and all you do is insult them and show off your wealth while favouring others?? Let him shift to Chicago and get a job for some American artist as a sound engineer or something than torture these innocent hard working young men and women. His style of management is the worst in history. Congo DR should have a regulatory institution, levels of exploitation in the music industry are too high and Werrason should be the first target.
Watanabe should just get the entire band. Let him get Kakol, Bikorino, Sarah, Ambulance and the rest. He knows what he is doing and success is assured. Werrason and JB should retire stop wasting our time. JB takes a decade to release an album and Werrason runs his band like a piggery. That is what has remained of Wenge!
Nalanda napwisha!
-
Tell us something we don't know I've been frustrated with maison mere for years it's way too crowded like it's hard to get to know the musicians and there's too much polemic inside the band itself which is unprofessional and unnacceptable
-
Yeah from the days of Bill and Ferre it seems like Werra is not at dealing with his employees. Too much recruitment in that band, too many public displays of inner conflict, having admins and the chief mess with some of the employees. And it makes no sense that someone new and who isn't even that good of a singer like Nicodem gets taken on private trips but long serving members like Eboa or Taddet get left behind.
-
all this are the long term consequences of lack of "western" tours,when maison mere was going to europe,you'd get a minor problem like the celeo/brigade/aimelia thing in a while and it was not even going viral, look at it well the maison mere issues have completely exploded from the failed werra wemba VIP,we've seen from then any types of situations,musicians dissing each other on tv's,musicians secretly travelling on the group's back like fabregas,musicians involved in fights against each other....
i dont remember which member of the golden maison mere said that, but the guy said we'd soon see werra into a proper solo career and that's whats starting to happen unless he performs a surprising turnaround to prove he can still be that guy who makes stars for fun
-
This is why Adolphe and Didier masela should've stayed
-
I'm a big Werra fan, but even the biggest Werra fan would be naive to not notice the band's malpractices
This is why Adolphe and Didier masela should've stayed
And have their have their checks and promotional money eaten by Werra as he humiliated them to secure his power? As sad as their abrupt departures were, it was necessary for them
I really feel for some of their employees who gave it their all, but it didn't mean much
-
you'd get a minor problem like the celeo/brigade/aimelia thing in a while
What was that problem?
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
These guys. Smh. Isnt Aimelia senior in terms of age to be slapped by Celeo Scram?
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
These guys. Smh. Isnt Aimelia senior in terms of age to be slapped by Celeo Scram?
In WMM it happens and the boss and admin see t as a normal thing and perhaps even encourage it.
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
Wowwwww aimelia should've slapped him back how disrespectful
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
These guys. Smh. Isnt Aimelia senior in terms of age to be slapped by Celeo Scram?
In WMM it happens and the boss and admin see t as a normal thing and perhaps even encourage it.
That's also one of the other problems with maison mere it's like a playground and high school
-
I really can't get this rant. Maison Mere has been a revolving door for as long a is can remember and that in many ways justifies the constant recruitment. As a Maison Mere fan my allegiance is to Werra because the employees will always move no matter what and there's always going to be someone to replace them. Ironically JB Mpiana was getting a lot of stick for sticking with same musicians for so long and fans keep calling for some sort of overhaul but when Werra allows musicians to leave frequently it's a problem again.
I think some of these claims of staff mistreatment are extremely exaggerated. No grown man would stay in band for 10 years and then claim he has always been mistreated. They could have easily moved out. They have realised that they are about to become less important in the band and will come with any excuse to leave.
As far as musicians moving to join their age mates, that's not really Werra's problem but it's got everything to do with the departing musicians. Either they don't have enough confidence in their ability to go out and do their own thing or they are just not cut for it.
Reading this post one would imagine the likes of Fabregas, Watta are not losing musicians and it's only Werra who is losing musicians. Lobeso lost Limousine less than a week after luring him from Werra. LOL.... I trust Werra to re organise his team like he has done time and again.
-
Zamuda, i tend to agree with you. Wata already lost 2 musicians. Am very sure Werra will pull up another surprise. I do foresee some musicians leaving Wata as he so many good singers in the group who will not very utilised.
In the meantime, it may be a setback but judging from Maison Mere's history, he normally gets even better musicians and also sure some of the guys leaving will miss the Zamba limelight and beg back like Limousine.
Fortunately the album is almost out.
-
If i were to compare werrason and Jb mpiana, the former is better musically because over the years, werrason has experimented and has performed better. Yes, his mass recruitment and exodus of defections has finally landed him in a pit as at now. He needs a better formula. Jb on the other hand has performed poorly with his same style for so long. You all know it's because he wears the "same shirt" (mikulis). Jb should retire earlier than werrason in my opinion.
-
celeo wanted to beat aimelia who was the second chef at that time and who recruited brigade who celeo hated at that time,it even happened that celeo slapped aimelia at a rehearsal but aimelia kept his cool in front of people
These guys. Smh. Isnt Aimelia senior in terms of age to be slapped by Celeo Scram?
Yep aimelia is 6 years older but hey in music they tend to think age does not matter
-
Archos, any response from Werra's camp?
-
from what i am seeing and hearing fans are telling yanki sankara and co to ignore it and focus on 7 jours' release
talking about olivier,maybe they should recruit christian ozil,more or less same profile,tasted a little bit of the high level with koffi and wazekwa already,song writer aswell,good dancer...
-
..waait, Werrason is simply enjoying the fruits of hard work ,you cant carry your whole village to Chicago especially in this Trump era of deportations just to see your new house. Its just foolish for any junior employee of any organisation to think that you have the right to follow the band leader like a tail wherever he goes.Werrason and his house is private business and he has every right to take his most trusted liutenants, you cannot compare what R. kales and Olivier have brought to the group what Kakol and Yanki Mpuy have,these are senior members who have the bosses' trust.
-
I think the guy from Goma easily fits the role. You remember his test by Eboa. He would easily fit the position.
Arnake, a blessing. Not a good singer and the new singer who does Adjani/Heritier parts covers well. Olivier however has been quite an important member. Werra Son should lure back Coulisse from Heritier. I think Werra should have not let him join Heritier earlier.
-
Maison Mere has monopolized the scene, wait and see Igwe trade and not only make the National team stronger but the so called "Nurseries" as well...
-
Maison Mere has monopolized the scene, wait and see Igwe trade and not only make the National team stronger but the so called "Nurseries" as well...
Werra has the knack for building a formidable team and he has an easier task now that half of first team is gone. I believe he must have known their plans.
-
can someone find out what is REALLY happening in WMM?
-
Just saw Nicodem with ADT in Chicago at Werra's daughter graduation party...lol no wonder why Olivier and Eboa are bitter
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1323527784367302&id=924743907579027
-
Christian Ozil joining WMM adequately covers Eboa and Olivier. A versatile singer and dancer.
i think when Ferre, Bill, JDT, Ndombe, Mabiala left, was the biggest scare then and Werra managed to build another formidable team.
-
what people do not understand about nicodem is that he is the almost perfect " wenge singer" good looks,good dancer, goes on tv at intensive rate,does those champagne things in night clubs....so it makes up for whatever flaw we find in his singing
like one maison mere staff guy once said to me "nicodem acts like a guy who has played 2 zeniths with werra already"
-
like one maison mere staff guy once said to me "nicodem acts like a guy who has played 2 zeniths with werra already"
They tend to forget that Nicodem was already a stable musician before joining MM with Zenith and other famous hall already on his CV...on the other note, where's Miel? He is such a coward...we all know he wants to leave to try out the solo thing but he's playing the muana malamu game
-
Christian Ozil joining WMM adequately covers Eboa and Olivier. A versatile singer and dancer.
i think when Ferre, Bill, JDT, Ndombe, Mabiala left, was the biggest scare then and Werra managed to build another formidable team.
Who is Christian Ozil? I have seen him being mentioned here severally. Which bands did he play for before? Which band was he lastly in before joining Werra?
-
christian ozil was chief of the orchestra in kisidjora's group.