Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: JV “Lone Ranger” on June 23, 2017, 14:09
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Surprising
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Let us wait and see but he was suppose to join WMM after leaving Ferre but was deterred by Bercy's presence.
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True
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With diego who seems to have now become a studio atalaku a place was up for grabs and this would give exactly the configuration werra likes for his animation team,a pure tenorist,a versatile guy and a guy in the mould of bill djuna and co ( kunzardo/diego,ambulance,goldberg)
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These musicians can make you go nuts. They just keep dancing around bands.
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Kunzardo is gonna be a hit in Maison Mere
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Why would he want to kill his career like that? Je suis jeune je suis wata.
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What is with these musicians wanting to join MM that band is too crowded he should've stayed with team wata ffs >:(
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Kunzardo will definitely make it in Maison Mere as he is very creative and strong. Diego is sleeping on the job on the tenorist atalaku side.
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He was having a good salary, and a very good relationship with Wata I really don't know why he left to join the bandwith no money to give to people, I ask him why he left and he answer Ah Naza Papais (Oh, I am at home lol)
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The subjectivity on this forum is amazing. When Olivier and Arnake left Werra to join Wata it was Ok and everybody bashed Werra for being an absentee leader and stingy and all. Now when Kunzardo goes the other way, the reaction is that Kunzardo is making a wrong move. Kunzardo is the best person to know why he is joining the MM that everybody is saying he should not join!!!!
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The subjectivity on this forum is amazing. When Olivier and Arnake left Werra to join Wata it was Ok and everybody bashed Werra for being an absentee leader and stingy and all. Now when Kunzardo goes the other way, the reaction is that Kunzardo is making a wrong move. Kunzardo is the best person to know why he is joining the MM that everybody is saying he should not join!!!!
My thoughts exactly. There's a lack of objectivity when it comes to Werrason and Maison Mere. It's as if it's the cool thing to do around here.
If Kunzardo joins Maison Mere well and good. I heard Watta's people saying they'll recruit even Werra's standing guard. Let's see how they like this move now
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https://youtu.be/MM89nkMQ6lY
carine attacks "grandfather" werra saying he is jealous heritier,he is past it and bla bla, and as usual always a word for fally and fabregas
this girl is crazy
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My take is the guys leaving group A for B have got their reasons for doing that. These guys are adults for crying out loud and they are free to make their choices/ take decisions. Why can't we just sit back and watch how it turns out in the end? We are here trying to plan their lives for them but they are the ones out there who know what they are gunning for in whatever band/group they go to or find themselves.
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
Regarding Prince joining, Kunzardo shouldn't feel insecure about that as he's better than him...i still dont understand why people rate that guy, all he does is shout, soo annoying to listen to. Kunzardo has that complexe when a musician joins a smaller group from a big one, he feels he can turn up late to rehearsals and not be questioned..even worse being shout out by someone who's almost same age as you.
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
Regarding Prince joining, Kunzardo shouldn't feel insecure about that as he's better than him...i still dont understand why people rate that guy, all he does is shout, soo annoying to listen to. Kunzardo has that complexe when a musician joins a smaller group from a big one, he feels he can turn up late to rehearsals and not be questioned..even worse being shout out by someone who's almost same age as you.
You can say whatever but Prince is better than Kunzardo for two reasons: Showman quality and Voice, Kunzardo has some nice lyrics but I don't think that Mm or BCBG (if JB wasn't against people from other groups) would take him the only problem of Prince is that he doesn't know how to write powerful cries of doesn't buy those because he has a voice which could have lead to him being the number one atalaku in Wenge thing that never happened, Heritier since Brandon has gone has lost the imprevidibility that atalaku has and plus Kunzardo has gone away so Prince is what Heritier need to go on on the generique part
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
Regarding Prince joining, Kunzardo shouldn't feel insecure about that as he's better than him...i still dont understand why people rate that guy, all he does is shout, soo annoying to listen to. Kunzardo has that complexe when a musician joins a smaller group from a big one, he feels he can turn up late to rehearsals and not be questioned..even worse being shout out by someone who's almost same age as you.
You can say whatever but Prince is better than Kunzardo for two reasons: Showman quality and Voice, Kunzardo has some nice lyrics but I don't think that Mm or BCBG (if JB wasn't against people from other groups) would take him the only problem of Prince is that he doesn't know how to write powerful cries of doesn't buy those because he has a voice which could have lead to him being the number one atalaku in Wenge thing that never happened, Heritier since Brandon has gone has lost the imprevidibility that atalaku has and plus Kunzardo has gone away so Prince is what Heritier need to go on on the generique part
are you for real? Prince has better voice than Kunzardo..lol..wow, showman quality by jumping around on stage and doing crazy dance moves yes but Voice heeeeell no.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwFNMdUQu4
from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
Regarding Prince joining, Kunzardo shouldn't feel insecure about that as he's better than him...i still dont understand why people rate that guy, all he does is shout, soo annoying to listen to. Kunzardo has that complexe when a musician joins a smaller group from a big one, he feels he can turn up late to rehearsals and not be questioned..even worse being shout out by someone who's almost same age as you.
You can say whatever but Prince is better than Kunzardo for two reasons: Showman quality and Voice, Kunzardo has some nice lyrics but I don't think that Mm or BCBG (if JB wasn't against people from other groups) would take him the only problem of Prince is that he doesn't know how to write powerful cries of doesn't buy those because he has a voice which could have lead to him being the number one atalaku in Wenge thing that never happened, Heritier since Brandon has gone has lost the imprevidibility that atalaku has and plus Kunzardo has gone away so Prince is what Heritier need to go on on the generique part
are you for real? Prince has better voice than Kunzardo..lol..wow, showman quality by jumping around on stage and doing crazy dance moves yes but Voice heeeeell no.
Yes he has it but unlike Kunzardo can't make powerful cries but for my case listen him here in his song especially in the 04:44 https://youtu.be/oJufirUiqLw
And in this song of Ali Mbonda in duet with Brigade since 05:14
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWpC_1SIU8I
And compare it with Retirada and Carriers D'Honneur Kunzardo's voice hasn't got pois it is not as strong as Prince's one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9CMz6Z-c3o8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwFNMdUQu4
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I forgot, your definition of a good atalaku its based on having a deep voice....your preference. I find it funny that almost everyone on the forum believe in order to be a good atalaku and make good generique you must have deep voice...i blame Bill for that.
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
Regarding Prince joining, Kunzardo shouldn't feel insecure about that as he's better than him...i still dont understand why people rate that guy, all he does is shout, soo annoying to listen to. Kunzardo has that complexe when a musician joins a smaller group from a big one, he feels he can turn up late to rehearsals and not be questioned..even worse being shout out by someone who's almost same age as you.
You can say whatever but Prince is better than Kunzardo for two reasons: Showman quality and Voice, Kunzardo has some nice lyrics but I don't think that Mm or BCBG (if JB wasn't against people from other groups) would take him the only problem of Prince is that he doesn't know how to write powerful cries of doesn't buy those because he has a voice which could have lead to him being the number one atalaku in Wenge thing that never happened, Heritier since Brandon has gone has lost the imprevidibility that atalaku has and plus Kunzardo has gone away so Prince is what Heritier need to go on on the generique part
Prince does not have a strong voice and Kunzardo has better creativity. Try watch Prince on live repetitions and you will notice his weakness.
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I forgot, your definition of a good atalaku its based on having a deep voice....your preference. I find it funny that almost everyone on the forum believe in order to be a good atalaku and make good generique you must have deep voice...i blame Bill for that.
Bill until he left solo was untouchable along with Celeo Bebe Kero and Brigade they set a level of standing for the atalaku after Caludji along with Genta and others, and here the point it is not about live performance because Kunzardo cannot make a full live have you seen him in that Live Rep with Heritier couldn't even sing sometimes, and on the video his voice was too soft ye the crie was great but he has the same problem of Kirikou, great creativity but not a strong voice, Prince is the opposite very good voice but not able to write powerful cries anyway, it is not Bill's fault Ruth Nzele has not have a very deep voice but I like when she animates, like Showman and Cinq with Robinio it is not only about voice but your charisma and Kunzardo he is good but he is not Ambulance or Kabuya or even Brandon which he is good but should stop to follow Brigade way of animating.
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manzambi if you want to judge kunzardo on voice,judge him when he was with ferre,the kunzardo with heritier its almost a miracle gven the state he bounced back from that he stil can do animation
but i get something is that you like very powerful voices be it tenor or the style of bill genta and co which is why you also appreciate the likes of ruth showme and co who do not fit at all in bill's category but have a powerful voice
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I forgot, your definition of a good atalaku its based on having a deep voice....your preference. I find it funny that almost everyone on the forum believe in order to be a good atalaku and make good generique you must have deep voice...i blame Bill for that.
Bill until he left solo was untouchable along with Celeo Bebe Kero and Brigade they set a level of standing for the atalaku after Caludji along with Genta and others, and here the point it is not about live performance because Kunzardo cannot make a full live have you seen him in that Live Rep with Heritier couldn't even sing sometimes, and on the video his voice was too soft ye the crie was great but he has the same problem of Kirikou, great creativity but not a strong voice, Prince is the opposite very good voice but not able to write powerful cries anyway, it is not Bill's fault Ruth Nzele has not have a very deep voice but I like when she animates, like Showman and Cinq with Robinio it is not only about voice but your charisma and Kunzardo he is good but he is not Ambulance or Kabuya or even Brandon which he is good but should stop to follow Brigade way of animating.
Lol we are definitely not talk about the same Kunzardo I know....you do realise is the same guy who was with Ferre and did "Siki koko" and "Kibombanda"? and didn't start is career with teamWata? You lost me when you compared him with garbage like Kiriku, I don't know what you're on about..what's next, Werra sings better than Koffi?
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As of right now Kunzardo is still with La Team Wata I saw him on Heritier's snap. Dancing wise Prince is better then Kunzardo but Kunzardo is better creativlely and also has a stage presence, he can also do animations with a deep voice.
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from the info i got from kin,what happened is that heritier got angry at kunzardo for turning up two hours late when they were preparing choreography in hope for olympia concert and it coincided with prince visiting and potentially joining
and it had been an habit from kunzardo to be very late at concerts and rehearsals because of two factors the first being that he lives very far from the area most of the music is played in kinshasa the second is that...well how can i say it without disrepecting kunzardo...
If you guys remember at some point kunzardo went into gospel and even recorded 10 sons but was encouraged to get back into "secular music" as his lifestyle had massively dropped and the reason why he went into gospel was that he went for a "deal" which was too strong for him so it backfired on him causing some mental issues which came back sometimes and heritier accepted him like that seeing what he has to offer,but due to heritier getting angry like that and removing him on concert list he felt unsecure with prince's presence
That would be a personal discipline issue. Who said at MM people report to work 2 hours late. Let him own his life and give Wata easy time to manage his band. We all don't live next to our offices but still make it in time for our duties.
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I forgot, your definition of a good atalaku its based on having a deep voice....your preference. I find it funny that almost everyone on the forum believe in order to be a good atalaku and make good generique you must have deep voice...i blame Bill for that.
Bill until he left solo was untouchable along with Celeo Bebe Kero and Brigade they set a level of standing for the atalaku after Caludji along with Genta and others, and here the point it is not about live performance because Kunzardo cannot make a full live have you seen him in that Live Rep with Heritier couldn't even sing sometimes, and on the video his voice was too soft ye the crie was great but he has the same problem of Kirikou, great creativity but not a strong voice, Prince is the opposite very good voice but not able to write powerful cries anyway, it is not Bill's fault Ruth Nzele has not have a very deep voice but I like when she animates, like Showman and Cinq with Robinio it is not only about voice but your charisma and Kunzardo he is good but he is not Ambulance or Kabuya or even Brandon which he is good but should stop to follow Brigade way of animating.
Lol we are definitely not talk about the same Kunzardo I know....you do realise is the same guy who was with Ferre and did "Siki koko" and "Kibombanda"? and didn't start is career with teamWata? You lost me when you compared him with garbage like Kiriku, I don't know what you're on about..what's next, Werra sings better than Koffi?
Mmmm don't let me speak about Kibombanda anyway we talked about Prince joining Heritier so we are speaking about present not the past, ahahahahahahahahahahahah Werra doesn't know how to sing sorry he didn't how to sing until 7 johrs came out but of the old leader Werra is the weakest vocally anyway for Kunzardo in that time Ferre's generique was evem ess successful than now so... And what is the big deal with Kirikou? Kunzardo is creative and now Kirikou who has the same amount of creativity cannot be taken seriously why? I liked him on the Derangement by Ferré with the Ekoti Crie and with Nyataquance and on the primus skng with Werra he hasn't got a powerful voice but way better than guys who do not know how to make cries without volgarities Prince>Kunzardo>Kirikou to me if Prince had a decent crie writer like Kabuya or Brigade it would be different