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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mrvibes on July 07, 2017, 14:28

Title: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: mrvibes on July 07, 2017, 14:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4CHCNTgrk
Not bad at all , does not sound really  exciting  as i expected  but consumable..how about you guys....what do think ?
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 07, 2017, 14:47
Not bad I like it
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 07, 2017, 14:49
Waiting for mwana nsalu to start bashing r Kelly 3...2...1  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: mrvibes on July 07, 2017, 14:56
Here is My favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQO-sd4RhlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G_lNEe2WaY
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on July 07, 2017, 21:01
Here we go....I understand trying new things and avoiding being stale and trying to become internationally known but this dude needs to understand there's people who do RNB/HIPHOP and Afro beat already waaaay better than him and will always do...so who's the album for cause congolese people back home love lingala and Fally singing in French and English will not really do it for them unless you're P Square or Drake in that case they don't care about the language. Stick to what you know and popularise it...promote your country music

On another note, I like the song "Tout le monde danse", "Na lingui ye ft MHD", "Champ (sounds like orginal)" and "Nidja  ft R Kelly(the song that will save the album)"....the rest of the songs on the album it's pure garbage...waste of my damn time.....Archos, makambu Fally azo yemba na francais na anglais ayebi yango? ;D

Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 07, 2017, 21:18
lol bakomeli ye epa ba parolier ya awa :D :D :D anyways he'll surely get half of what he wanted there are wayyyyyy less talented guys here in france who became big stars so why not,at least he was smart in not fully committing his career to warner elektra label otherwise rumba and generiques were gone for at least 10 years
but he will get a good part of what he wants i think  a lot of the songs were written and arranged the way young guys like the music in france nowadays,in fact even rappers who used to stick to those american-like beats have thrown in that kinda-african vibe
but  french people are conservative dont even think about coming with another language than french and so are most of us congolese people who say a congolese does rumba sebene and generique if we want other genre we know where to find it
so i think if even werra got criticized a lot for actually doing very congolese songs plus those club songs i imagine fally will get roasted for doing that much songs not even in lingala,not even rumbas ...imagine i know people for who the album was already crap before release because there was no mabanga so they could not get mabanga :D :D :D
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on July 07, 2017, 21:37
Waiting for mwana nsalu to start bashing r Kelly 3...2...1  ;D ;D

LOL LOL LOL

i got it all out i'm good. i've hated him for years every so often i have an outburst.
that being said i listened out of curiosity and its horrible.
and its not horrible because of r kelly i wish i could say other wise lol
fally if you're going to try these new things you have to do something substantial.
no one is impressed with these lyrics and simple melodies. nothing about it sounds special.

i agree with JV you have to do what you know and popularize that. a song like eloko oyo is way more valuable on this album than a song with r kelly IMO. people i know from america who are interested in hearing african music don't want to hear africans recreating what r kelly already made popular. and r kelly is already is an elder statesmen he doesn't set trends anymore in r&b. so if he really wanted to capture americans attention he'd have to latch onto somebody like usher or omarion or the weeknd. somebody like that. i wish i could sit down with this guy in the studio. i would have him popping in america in no time. archos what are your links like with fally? lol
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 07, 2017, 22:05
 a good pal like some other artists,like i said "unfortunately" for him he was guided into working mainly for the youngsters of france with the objective his label has of taking him to platinum disc level and getting him into some sort of  well i am not finding the name but lets say the way the ivorian group magic system is now almost counted as french musicians
 so they want him to be the african guy who spent most of his life in africa unlike the other franco african guys and who made it to the "top level"
 which is why i said it was very tricky for him to do that album,if at least he poppeed out did one two hits  then switched to that music i think our perception could be different but since he is  already a 20 years of career we are way too used to him to accept it especially as it sounds as "average" as the guys in "that game" already(and we are even more harsh than the random french lol)
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Matebu on July 07, 2017, 22:38
For those of you who’ve listened to the album is worth a listen? The impression I get from FB and you guys is that it’s a waste of time overall
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on July 07, 2017, 22:55
a good pal like some other artists,like i said "unfortunately" for him he was guided into working mainly for the youngsters of france with the objective his label has of taking him to platinum disc level and getting him into some sort of  well i am not finding the name but lets say the way the ivorian group magic system is now almost counted as french musicians
 so they want him to be the african guy who spent most of his life in africa unlike the other franco african guys and who made it to the "top level"
 which is why i said it was very tricky for him to do that album,if at least he poppeed out did one two hits  then switched to that music i think our perception could be different but since he is  already a 20 years of career we are way too used to him to accept it especially as it sounds as "average" as the guys in "that game" already(and we are even more harsh than the random french lol)

its definitely the average production that is doing him in here. i mean hopefully for him and the label it appeals enough for him to make some money off it but i think this album will be forgotten. i haven't heard every song but most and i'm not impressed. speaking for myself i don't mind artists trying new things but one should aspire to break new ground not just do some shit because everyone else is doing it.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 07, 2017, 23:18
i listened several times to album already and i find it more less like most albums of that genre  3 4  fours songs destined to be hits then songs with very very basic lyrics( and the song which have fally's hand on it,its been proven times and times that he is an horrendous writer and a little bit the accent issue although he surprised me on some songs)
but technically we are on the same track as other albums of the genre  3 4 songs which will be dropped  as singles on tv's and radios an
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: SYMPLICITY on July 07, 2017, 23:26
I have not listened. Good people if there is a rhumba(traditional rhumba in the sense of Cadenas or Liputa) or generique/sebene please buzz me here so i can listen. If there is none I will pass. Am not a fan of hip hop but even if i was, I would go to the top dogs!!!
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 07, 2017, 23:30
no there is no rumba or generique in that album
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Jdog on July 07, 2017, 23:42
Like Koffi said Ko Seka nga te nazo meka (don't laugh at me I'm trying) there was some parts here and there I like in the album. Fally could've at least done what Pegguy Tabu did and have RnB and Rhumba mixed togteher and have sebene. Smh a "Congolese" album with no mabnga and it's not even on an regular rhumba and sebene album. I don't want to hear people's name in songs, they should have two versions just for mabanga. 
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Jdog on July 07, 2017, 23:43
JV, if people can Congo can listen to foreign artists rap/sing in their langauge why not have one of their own do the languages of the other foreign artists.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on July 08, 2017, 00:08
JV, if people can Congo can listen to foreign artists rap/sing in their langauge why not have one of their own do the languages of the other foreign artists.

nah im good...i'll go to the people who do it best
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 08, 2017, 00:13
I've not had the chance to listen to it and judging by the comments I can't be bothered I knew from the beginning this world album was not a good idea
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: mrvibes on July 08, 2017, 00:40
The album  is good,  people disliking the album just because they are not used to different types of music but  ndombolo with mabanga .  If we can manage listening to youssou ndour with his accent, why not fally. I call this kind of behavior  a congolese total foolishness and stupidity. Stop hating on your own people trying to better themselves.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on July 08, 2017, 01:08
The album  is good,  people disliking the album just because they are not used to different types of music but  ndombolo with mabanga .  If we can manage listening to youssou ndour with his accent, why not fally. I call this kind of behavior  a congolese total foolishness and stupidity. Stop hating on your own people trying to better themselves.

 his attempts at 'bettering himself' as you put it are below average that's all. i don't think its any deeper than that.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on July 08, 2017, 01:34
for me the best songs on the album are posa, yakuza and eloko oyo. posa is the most original sounding track on the album to me.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on July 08, 2017, 02:04
anyway ba fan ya Werra na Fally boswana and decide who has the best so called world music album, me i'm going back to my rumba de jesus de nuance...QQJD nde
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: bigbodybeats on July 08, 2017, 02:36
Despite all the hatred on this new release, I'm letting you all know this world album is to prove he can do both, most of you are reacting thinking this a permanent move on his end, he always talked about doing a world album, he's had success with "cross over" song"sweet life" also there's a huge audience for "afro pop beats" or this type of music so don't be surprised if his video's or audio youtube songs reach millions... his album his reaching #1 status on iTunes currently in France. This album won't be forgotten, there's a radio station in Waterloo Iowa, USA KBBG FM 88.1 every Saturday new African music is played 3-5pm central time  certain songs on this album have been added to rotation espescially the R kelly song. Atlanta will soon pick up also.
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on July 08, 2017, 03:52
Despite all the hatred on this new release, I'm letting you all know this world album is to prove he can do both, most of you are reacting thinking this a permanent move on his end, he always talked about doing a world album, he's had success with "cross over" song"sweet life" also there's a huge audience for "afro pop beats" or this type of music so don't be surprised if his video's or audio youtube songs reach millions... his album his reaching #1 status on iTunes currently in France. This album won't be forgotten, there's a radio station in Waterloo Iowa, USA KBBG FM 88.1 every Saturday new African music is played 3-5pm central time  certain songs on this album have been added to rotation espescially the R kelly song. Atlanta will soon pick up also.

If he finds the success hes looking for with this album more power to him. doesnt change the quality in comparison to others already doing this kind of music in my opinion. the production just isnt strong. a lot of music gets pushed on the radio that isnt the best being made. it is what it is. clout and money often times speak louder thab talent
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: bigbodybeats on July 08, 2017, 04:04
I agree, the music production could've been better, some songs seem as if a 'demo song' or with limited instrumentation
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: BG-ground on July 08, 2017, 05:40
Do we have any members living here in the US who got the album on itunes or Spotify? Can't find it
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Matebu on July 08, 2017, 07:22
Do we have any members living here in the US who got the album on itunes or Spotify? Can't find it


Having the same issue, which is why i haven’t listened to it yet. The album was released in Europe, and I believe Africa digitally and hard copy. US customers have to wait a couple days
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 08, 2017, 17:17
I reckon this album is just gonna be them ones that come and go
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: dany on July 08, 2017, 18:23
Do your thing but don't forget the hand that feeds you.... the Congolese music audience
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Matebu on July 08, 2017, 18:28
^ Papa Wemba (RIP) learned that lesson with Emotion. Despite it going gold quickly, Wemba felt a need to go back to his roots since the “world” audiences have a short attention span

I reckon this album is just gonna be them ones that come and go

First his celebrity friends will do heavy promotion on his behalf
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 08, 2017, 19:21
when i think about example of magic system i say to myself anything is possible,who would have thought the group who was playing in front of sometimes 20 people in concerts in africa would have the hit premier gaou then completely settle into french music for 16 years or so now
but for sure he'll be facing a dilemma because it could well happen that he releases the rumba album but then has a long tour he has to respect for warner
libre parcours experience was a flop because of a more or less similar issue having to incorporate and promote properly something else when people clearly care more about yourself and how they know you
on a "funny" note fally if you want to keep congolese people happy,settle back in kin and go abroad sometimes like before arsenal de belles melodies ,if possible do a bit of childish polemic aswell...what else can i add to the list of a typical congolese artist?
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: Matebu on July 09, 2017, 01:47
idk, I still find these performances in front of an audience that know nothing about an African artist cringeworthy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohGS6aAOE9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR9YyuRF-5I

They're there for the Jordan Quai 54 games..
Title: Re: Fally ft r kelly (nidja)
Post by: archos on July 09, 2017, 01:54
yeah it feels strange,thats why i gave magic system example if they came to europe wanting to  stick to premier gaou,secret d'africain and co style people would surely look at them   like WTF