Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on August 24, 2017, 17:36
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https://youtu.be/VEORxo4ivLE
They are discussing news that all the group of heritier got deported/denied access to states except the two heritier's( himself and heritier aka arnake)
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If true, what bad luck he and the group are having. wow
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part of me thinks its buzz other part thinks its true but i have a feeling whatever happens is bound to have an influence on that jb werra thing which is restarting,michka said in an interview that some leaders united to block heritier on that project but jb refused to be part of it
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I hope it's not true but they did get the visas. And Werra is really a true vieux jealoux. On Heritier's snap it was just him and Arnake at the airport.
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Does Carine (and superfan Juvenal) have complete control over what news comes from his band? I'm not hearing any news about the situation.
I spotted Monsoh in nyc the other day, and I don't think he made in in time to the airport in Atlanta when they arrived
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Yeah it's true but it's weird cause they got the visas. Werra is a true vieux jealoux.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lit-xYWEeqE
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Yeah it's true but it's weird cause they got the visas. Werra is a true vieux jealoux.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lit-xYWEeqE
WHATs WITH WERRA...
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If this is true, I would like to ask this: what would the so called elders who united to block Heritier's concert gain from this? Smh! This is terrible! If this is how musicians and artistes alike behave in other countries only God knows what music would have been turned to? Why will you be jealous of your brother as successful as you already are?
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Before all and sundry get carried away by the narrative that Werrason is responsible can whoever made this claim prove it by irrefutable fact and not attributing it to what someone from one camp said? Since when does Werrason work for U.S Immigration?
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yes its too early to make conclusion that werra is responsible but for dead certain musicians DO try everything to unsettle each other,werra or koffi or jb did not invent it it always existed except that it has developped a lot over the recent decades
symplicity werra does not work for immigration neither do jb and koffi for example but trust me if those guys step in to block you at embassies in most of the cases they win,if you want a clear idea of it just count the number of their musicians who struggled big time to go to europe or states on their own after leaving in troublesome context
which is why europe long term papers have become vital to almost all those young guys who are having good solo careers nowadays
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Whoever did this is motema mabe
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yes its too early to make conclusion that werra is responsible but for dead certain musicians DO try everything to unsettle each other,werra or koffi or jb did not invent it it always existed except that it has developped a lot over the recent decades
symplicity werra does not work for immigration neither do jb and koffi for example but trust me if those guys step in to block you at embassies in most of the cases they win,if you want a clear idea of it just count the number of their musicians who struggled big time to go to europe or states on their own after leaving in troublesome context
which is why europe long term papers have become vital to almost all those young guys who are having good solo careers nowadays
@archos, with all due respect, I have a background in Diplomacy and Werrason cannot in a thousand years influence who enters the U.S and who does not. The U.S is not some banana republic and even Trump himself cannot deny anyone entry without the backing of a very clear legislation. So on this one kindly give Werra a break. Maybe you need to ask Michka who told him Werrason is behind this!!!
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where did i say werra (only)? please dont take such stuff that seriously come on stuff which might not be true are said around and by musicians almost every week,and those stuff are part of what people discuss almost everyday,some believe and stay calm,some believe and react fast,some dont believe,some dont believe and react fast to defend their idol... thats how it is on thousands of videos and threads
and i was talking about leaving kinshasa ,not getting people deported back to congo and also about trying a lot of stuff underground aswell
other than the artists,some combattants are also claiming they are behind it by writing letters and providing proof that heritier's group should not be allowed
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Without accusing any group member here, let me make a general comment. No African President can influence who enters the USA or not. These guys are way above such manipulation. They don't even act on rumours. Herittier had his own issues which had nothing to do with other musicians.
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What tangible evidence do you have to say Werra or whoever has a hand in the deportation of Herritier's band members? Don't just jump on the bandwagon. America is one of the most if not the most organised countries in terms of immigration. Therefore regardless of the grudge that Werra may have against Herritier, he cannot in a million influence the American immigration to deport those musicians without just cause. As I mentioned earlier on that country is well organised unlike African countries infested with the seed of corruption. The big question is, why were they issued with visas in the first place? Maybe just maybe if at all Werra or whoever may have a hand in this issue, he can only corrupt the staff at the embassy in Kinshasa and those guys would not have been allowed to exit worse granted visas, but they were refused entry right in the states by authorities in the USA home land. I strongly believe this story is cooked up by the media from one camp and everyone all of a sudden acknowledges .
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By the way folks,the rumour or whatever it is is not just about werra they are saying werra fally and fabregas carine even insulted them all as usual when she arrived in brussels
on another note
https://youtu.be/CLO73HBN8xA
here is one of the combattants claiming proudly he has an hand on it,and celezino also did an interview
my michka comment was taken out of context,what i meant is that the current "beef" of jb's guys vs werra's guys(or vice versa) is based on 99 per cent of rumours and over interpretation of things so what i said is i hope michka having said that does not give something to fuel the "beef" some more,never did i say he was right or claim werra did something
just refered to the existing things done often in congolese music
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This Combatant is an attention seeker
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This whole drama is even tiring....it is always from one drama to the other...that is why I put that clause..."if this is true..." in my earlier comment for i do not believe someone can just walk to the embassy and ask that some people should be denied entrance into the US when it is not that they are related to Trump. Even at that, before anyone can be denied access into a nation, he or she must have flouted some basic immigration rules.
So much drama!!!
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Still no word on what really happened, Heritier hasn't said anything about concerts being delayed (he didn't even promote the concerts before anyways) or whether his group is deported or not.
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Still no word on what really happened, Heritier hasn't said anything about concerts being delayed (he didn't even promote the concerts before anyways) or whether his group is deported or not.
I don't think there was a concert....he was invited to a party or wedding of some sort and hoping when he arrives other activities will come up just like Lacoste did.
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JV, he said himself he has three planned, he wouldn't waste all that time and money for the group just to wait around see what happens.
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By doing no promotion, who did he expect to show up in respectable numbers? ...
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Well Lacoste still says he played a big concert in the US and a lot of people came...plein a cracke
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Well Lacoste still says he played a big concert in the US and a lot of people came...plein a cracke
;D ;D Sur le chemin de la gloire...
I hope the buzz from the failed Olympia doesn't end up becoming the highlight of his solo career
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lol moto na tembe is releasing another single sooner than later on the 29th August and his album it's not even a year old yet..
(https://s29.postimg.org/9gbssrfhj/IMG_4655.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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seems its confirmed now,gotta feel for the musicians,knowing how congolese musicians act when going on tour,i am sure most of them sold and gave away a lot of their stuff with conviction that they'd come back from tour with brand new car and house stuff and clothes
i wonder how they will cope with that
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That sucks, how do you get deported after receiving a Visa, there's gonna be a lot of people talking when Fally brings his group over here.
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I hope it's not true but they did get the visas. And Werra is really a true vieux jealoux. On Heritier's snap it was just him and Arnake at the airport.
What is Heritier's Snap I want to follow him
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If this is true, I would like to ask this: what would the so called elders who united to block Heritier's concert gain from this? Smh! This is terrible! If this is how musicians and artistes alike behave in other countries only God knows what music would have been turned to? Why will you be jealous of your brother as successful as you already are?
Power... Fear of being forgotten, is it something very diffuse in Congolese society I have been part pf that jealousy too only because I am very tall, very stupid reason but once again this is how congolese people think: How can that guy be mpre successful than me? I am better he ain't sh** and instead of focusing on how to get better most of the people will spend mlst of their energy blocking and fucking up other people's life
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I hope it's not true but they did get the visas. And Werra is really a true vieux jealoux. On Heritier's snap it was just him and Arnake at the airport.
What is Heritier's Snap I want to follow him
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