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Title: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Tata Nkiadi on October 11, 2017, 21:28
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Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Matebu on October 11, 2017, 22:07
lol, exactly. Could not make it through 2 songs.  And the fact that he has promoted it way more than all his 3 previous albums & Libre Parcours combined peeves me a bit.

He has a strong, (for the basis of comparison) Koffiphile/ette - esque fanbase that will take anything he says or does as gospel. Now he's "the Greatest"...
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Tata Nkiadi on October 11, 2017, 23:04
lol, exactly. Could not make it through 2 songs.  And the fact that he has promoted it way more than all his 3 previous albums & Libre Parcours combined peeves me a bit.

He has a strong, (for the basis of comparison) Koffiphile/ette - esque fanbase that will take anything he says or does as gospel. Now he's "the Greatest"...

Eza mabe makassi. R. Kelly couldn’t even piss on the album to make it better. Compared to Werra’s world album, which is really good and more marketable in my opinion, Fally’s album fails to deliver. What pisses me off even more is that the foundation of other African genres comes from Congolese music. Why Fally feels like he needs to bite off of Nigerian pop music baffles me.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: mrvibes on October 12, 2017, 03:17
No wonder the US went from Obama to tramp ooops i i meant trump. People especially Congolese are not used to change.   The album is a total success. Y'all just stop hating ... Please get used to it by now.  Fally is the best and the album is the beast. To zo lia bino nioso .. Mawa
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Matebu on October 12, 2017, 04:02
No wonder the US went from Obama to tramp ooops i i meant trump. People especially Congolese are not used to change.   The album is a total success. Y'all just stop hating ... Please get used to it by now.  Fally is the best and the album is the beast. To zo lia bino nioso .. Mawa

lol, President ya ba Fan Club Ipup's. On his defensive if anything regarding him is not 100% in his favor.

Us old-heads are waiting for his rhumba album; as Fally himself said recently during his RFI interview... rhumba will always be his roots and specialty.

I don't understand what the US presidency has to do with anything here. If American people didn't want change Hillary would be president
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: SYMPLICITY on October 12, 2017, 04:40
Why is the defence counsel taking too long to rebut after the prosecution has closed its case......? But i expect it soon enough!!!!!!
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Matebu on October 12, 2017, 05:55
Why is the defence counsel taking too long to rebut after the prosecution has closed its case......? But i expect it soon enough!!!!!!

What?

The album has been out for months; most members have already let it be known how they feel about the album.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: SYMPLICITY on October 12, 2017, 07:06
Why is the defence counsel taking too long to rebut after the prosecution has closed its case......? But i expect it soon enough!!!!!!

What?

The album has been out for months; most members have already let it be known how they feel about the album.
@Matebu my comment was made tongue in cheek. You will understand soon enough!!!!
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Jdog on October 12, 2017, 07:52
Although I don't really care for the album like that because I want Rhumba and sebene , I like that Fally did an different brand of music and the album has been well revived. I don't care for the album but I'm happy it isn't a flop. It shows the diversity of Congolese music and why it's #1 in Africa.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 12, 2017, 09:22
Yeah I didn't really care about the album that much but it wasn't that bad as people here are making it out to be it wasn't a flop he tried something different and it worked out for him so it's not like it was the worst thing ever made
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 10:42
You guys defending Fally you need to understand that in this forum we don't discuss the commercial reception of a disc, but purely his quality, if you guys like so much saying oh but the album is good and so on go listen to coldplay's music great album sales but really shitty in terms of quality.
You will say that Mascara is better thean Libre Parcours#2 only because it had a worldwide success? No I won't because Libre Parcours is the best generique ever made so far, but he didn't promote it so it hasn't been as successful as it should have been.
Fally had the chance to perform Congolese music on an high level, the way Naza, Youssoupha (Tabu Ley's son) Niska and Mâitre Gims did but he didn't he prefer to fake his music and act like he was a mix between a Nigerian and an American, while he can't even talk proper English, and that's ridiculous for the people who really appreciate Fally in his true form, all of Fally fans in Europe went crazy because he was next to the French stars but beside that that album was shitty
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: archos on October 12, 2017, 11:34
for me this album is difficult to assess its too much of a new experience and you dont master a new style like that in first try unless God took full possession of your body it was obvious that it would not be a wow album although some will like it more than others which is totally normal and which some of those who do not like have to accept aswell everybody has his perception of music
as for me i will judge him on next album of that genre if he improves because he still can and has to improve a lot,i think he was compared  to 7 jours de la semaine which is also a concept different from rumba sebene  but 7 jours is much much much easier to adapt to for a congolese artist lets be honest about that
and in my opinion you dont become a worldwide artist coming from africa like that,it takes time except maybe for the anglophone ones who seem to have it a bit easier  so its too early in my opinion to make a proper proper judgement without either having way too high expectations or that emotional side about him potentially quitting rumba making his mistakes even stronger to see on that project
and whats also tough in judgeing it properly outside of the traditional its good or its shit is that nobody did it  before so we dont have somebody we can refer to and compare
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: mrvibes on October 12, 2017, 13:52
You guys defending Fally you need to understand that in this forum we don't discuss the commercial reception of a disc, but purely his quality, if you guys like so much saying oh but the album is good and so on go listen to coldplay's music great album sales but really shitty in terms of quality.
You will say that Mascara is better thean Libre Parcours#2 only because it had a worldwide success? No I won't because Libre Parcours is the best generique ever made so far, but he didn't promote it so it hasn't been as successful as it should have been.
Fally had the chance to perform Congolese music on an high level, the way Naza, Youssoupha (Tabu Ley's son) Niska and Mâitre Gims did but he didn't he prefer to fake his music and act like he was a mix between a Nigerian and an American, while he can't even talk proper English, and that's ridiculous for the people who really appreciate Fally in his true form, all of Fally fans in Europe went crazy because he was next to the French stars but beside that that album was shitty
sometimes i wonder if really know what you are talking about... Are you allergic to different style of music or just hatting because fally surprised you with something different than usual. Lol .
The quality of the album is very high compared to other album that came out.. Im pretty sure that some of you are listening it from YouTube. Please buy the original cd and enjoy the master piece.stop talking to much while not even making a point .fally not knowing how to" speak"proper English does not hurt his career that much. At least he is doing it. Please ask the other you just mentioned here to at least try to. Say something in English..lol. Ohh wait Ferre can say ""my wife is very very good" lol
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Toolz on October 12, 2017, 15:11
Lol...Na all of una sabi o....when una don blow una grammar finish, everybody go go rest....I am just passing... Lol. @JV, where are you?
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 17:20
You guys defending Fally you need to understand that in this forum we don't discuss the commercial reception of a disc, but purely his quality, if you guys like so much saying oh but the album is good and so on go listen to coldplay's music great album sales but really shitty in terms of quality.
You will say that Mascara is better thean Libre Parcours#2 only because it had a worldwide success? No I won't because Libre Parcours is the best generique ever made so far, but he didn't promote it so it hasn't been as successful as it should have been.
Fally had the chance to perform Congolese music on an high level, the way Naza, Youssoupha (Tabu Ley's son) Niska and Mâitre Gims did but he didn't he prefer to fake his music and act like he was a mix between a Nigerian and an American, while he can't even talk proper English, and that's ridiculous for the people who really appreciate Fally in his true form, all of Fally fans in Europe went crazy because he was next to the French stars but beside that that album was shitty
sometimes i wonder if really know what you are talking about... Are you allergic to different style of music or just hatting because fally surprised you with something different than usual. Lol .
The quality of the album is very high compared to other album that came out.. Im pretty sure that some of you are listening it from YouTube. Please buy the original cd and enjoy the master piece.stop talking to much while not even making a point .fally not knowing how to" speak"proper English does not hurt his career that much. At least he is doing it. Please ask the other you just mentioned here to at least try to. Say something in English..lol. Ohh wait Ferre can say ""my wife is very very good" lol
I have said that Libre Parcours #2 is the best generique ever made so far and you go ahead saying that I hate him, you really don't understand the point of my comment, and he hadn't made something different he did what French Africans are doing from years mixing French and Lingala and then sell it, I don't know what kind of innovation is that . This are things that Stromae, Aya Nakamura and many other are doing since the 90's. And I am critical about Fally because I know he can do better than talk some very bad English and using the forulmula that Francophone Africans artist have used for ages. I don't know how can you say it is a good album the sound is good but again we are not discussing sound but quality and then for Ferre he used English in a production of a Nigerian artist one time and never again, in his Albums he stays real without changing for global success and don't bring it to Ferrr we are talking Fally and his album not Ferre
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Mwana Nsalu on October 12, 2017, 17:45
nothing wrong with doing and trying different things musically. the truth of the matter is fally's attempt at 'different' just wasn't that great lol some people love it. some people hate it. some others in the middle but at the end of the day FOR ME i dont dislike 'Tokooos' because fally was 'trying something new' he does a lot of 'trying new things' on his rumba albums if we are honest about fally's musical direction has always pushed the envelop (i been wanting to make a thread about this but i'm too lazy lol maybe one day) and mixed influences in a way that is more  universal already so doing "world music" so to speak is a natural progression. or so i thought. i dislike it because it was an extremely lazy attempt at trying to jump on the current musical bandwagon. i was actually excited to hear what he would do but it was a very lazy attempt.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Matebu on October 12, 2017, 18:06
There you have it, great constructive reasoning bandeko(s). I hope you don't revert to calling everyone a hater @mrvibes

@manzambi; can you please clarify "Libre Parcours #2 is the best generique ever made so far". If you mean Fally's best ever, then I completely agree, but if you mean best of all time, then strongly disagree. Best générique this 2010's decade is as far as I'm willing to stretch it.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 18:41
There you have it, great constructive reasoning bandeko(s). I hope you don't revert to calling everyone a hater @mrvibes

@manzambi; can you please clarify "Libre Parcours #2 is the best generique ever made so far". If you mean Fally's best ever, then I completely agree, but if you mean best of all time, then strongly disagree. Best générique this 2010's decade is as far as I'm willing to stretch it.
Yes for Fally it is the best Generique ever both for the video concept and the concept the line of Kabuya Dieux Ma Sauvez knowing the character of Kabuya it is a masterpiece and adding the fact that he played homage to all the Congolese musician in Libre Parcours #2, did his typical style of Generique in Libre Parcours #1 and greeted Koffi in Libre Parcours is something only a genius can make, for the best generique made in history can't really say which is because they are very very much you go in the time of United Wenge and you have Pentagon, you go to the split you got things like A La Queue Leu Leu, Se Na She and Mpunda along with Je Ne Te Calcule Pas and for Koffi you have Loi which I think in terms of success is definitely the best, you got Wazekwa with Et Apres there are a lot of generique who can be the best but I can't really pick the greatest. For Mwana Nsalu yes absolutely since American and Nigerians are the King in the music industry he tried to replicate the same thing and adding French songs to it like the one with Aya Nakamura of course his fanbase will love it, but even Rally knows that he did that only to get French clients not for the music in itself
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on October 12, 2017, 19:50
Lol...Na all of una sabi o....when una don blow una grammar finish, everybody go go rest....I am just passing... Lol. @JV, where are you?

Lol....I actually like this album, after attempting to re-listen every song....i love “tout le monde danse”....lets just enjoy this guy cos him and Werra are the only ones brave enough to break new barriers, unlike some...****cough****Papa yohji
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 19:56
Lol...Na all of una sabi o....when una don blow una grammar finish, everybody go go rest....I am just passing... Lol. @JV, where are you?

Lol....I actually like this album, after attempting to re-listen every song....i love “tout le monde danse”....lets just enjoy this guy cos him and Werra are the only ones brave enough to break new barriers, unlike some...****cough****Papa yohji
Like my Brazzaville friend said: "JB Asila".
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on October 12, 2017, 20:10
Asila kalaaaaaa
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: mrvibes on October 12, 2017, 20:37
Fally is a solo artist and knows very well what he is doing. We must know that music is an universal thing does not have any barriers. Changing music style is comon to real true artist . i recognize a real artist when he can Sing , dance, interpret, compose  play an instrument a be versatile.when you can adapt to any kind of style and is pull a big load off fans to listen and love your music, me that's a big win. Fally is doing exactly that and proving it black on white .
I dont wanna be talking about generique or such since its a community and somme african country thing. . onlu legent recognize legend. And r kelly did it with fally .
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Toolz on October 12, 2017, 21:16
Lol...Na all of una sabi o....when una don blow una grammar finish, everybody go go rest....I am just passing... Lol. @JV, where are you?

Lol....I actually like this album, after attempting to re-listen every song....i love “tout le monde danse”....lets just enjoy this guy cos him and Werra are the only ones brave enough to break new barriers, unlike some...****cough****Papa yohji

JV, that Papa Yohji left me in stitches....Na real Papa Yohji....a la fashion parade...lol
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Matebu on October 12, 2017, 21:24
lol, speaking of Bin Adam, we've gone a full week without a thread about him or BCBG. Emo should be rejoicing  :
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Toolz on October 12, 2017, 21:42
Lol...lol
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 12, 2017, 22:53
lol, speaking of Bin Adam, we've gone a full week without a thread about him or BCBG. Emo should be rejoicing  :
;D  ;D
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 23:33
Fally is a solo artist and knows very well what he is doing. We must know that music is an universal thing does not have any barriers. Changing music style is comon to real true artist . i recognize a real artist when he can Sing , dance, interpret, compose  play an instrument a be versatile.when you can adapt to any kind of style and is pull a big load off fans to listen and love your music, me that's a big win. Fally is doing exactly that and proving it black on white .
I dont wanna be talking about generique or such since its a community and somme african country thing. . onlu legent recognize legend. And r kelly did it with fally .
Ahah you are calling a pedophile a legend? Ahahahahah
MJ is a legend, Kendrick Lamar is a legend, Rihanna & Beyoncè, Jay-Z are legends the fact that R. Kelly had a hit song dedicated to Michael Jordan in a big movie doesn't mean anything Despacito has 4 billion views but is not a legend material song, and for Africa Rally needs to do a lot of road for being a legend he is on the right track but his last album was a flop artistically
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 12, 2017, 23:38
lol, speaking of Bin Adam, we've gone a full week without a thread about him or BCBG. Emo should be rejoicing  :
Seriously talking I this.k that now that I "know" him more deeply, JB is a Drake type of guy, way too much sensitive and so in love with people who treats him like he is special so.whoever criticize him or comes with real facts like: Your career is over, BDM is a ghost album, you can't be relaying on being a star forever. Becomes an enemy the guys that goes solo and doesn't go with Koffi keeping it real like Abraham becomes bad because they went solo, when in Papa Cherie's mind you should stay in BCBG forever no matter if you haven't got album out.
And furthermore it is CRAZY the way that JB leave Roger Ngandu and Seguin Maniata control his life
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 13, 2017, 00:17
lol, speaking of Bin Adam, we've gone a full week without a thread about him or BCBG. Emo should be rejoicing  :
Seriously talking I this.k that now that I "know" him more deeply, JB is a Drake type of guy, way too much sensitive and so in love with people who treats him like he is special so.whoever criticize him or comes with real facts like: Your career is over, BDM is a ghost album, you can't be relaying on being a star forever. Becomes an enemy the guys that goes solo and doesn't go with Koffi keeping it real like Abraham becomes bad because they went solo, when in Papa Cherie's mind you should stay in BCBG forever no matter if you haven't got album out.
And furthermore it is CRAZY the way that JB leave Roger Ngandu and Seguin Maniata control his life
lol I wouldn't compare jb to drake at least drake drops music on a constant basis haha
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 13, 2017, 09:01
lol, speaking of Bin Adam, we've gone a full week without a thread about him or BCBG. Emo should be rejoicing  :
Seriously talking I this.k that now that I "know" him more deeply, JB is a Drake type of guy, way too much sensitive and so in love with people who treats him like he is special so.whoever criticize him or comes with real facts like: Your career is over, BDM is a ghost album, you can't be relaying on being a star forever. Becomes an enemy the guys that goes solo and doesn't go with Koffi keeping it real like Abraham becomes bad because they went solo, when in Papa Cherie's mind you should stay in BCBG forever no matter if you haven't got album out.
And furthermore it is CRAZY the way that JB leave Roger Ngandu and Seguin Maniata control his life
lol I wouldn't compare jb to drake at least drake drops music on a constant basis haha
Lol
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Siamois on October 13, 2017, 09:46
Fally's new album is excellent ! What you all are talking about? Tokooos is fire, period.
Title: Re: My Review of Fally’s new album Tokooos
Post by: Toolz on October 13, 2017, 09:58
Fally's new album is excellent ! What you all are talking about? Tokooos is fire, period.

And that is why it is called a forum...a place where we have got people of divergent opinions all for the same cause.
Air your view and move on.