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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Manzambi94 on October 15, 2017, 21:10

Title: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 15, 2017, 21:10
I really don't understand why BCBG's group is not rebelling against the evil Administration.
How can Gemta, Fi-Carrè, Zulema and the other big guys in BCBG accept everyday the furious administration and treatment they get?
Especially Genta and Fi-Carrè since they are very close to JB, Genta like a Son and Fi-Carrè like an older brother?
Maybe some of you who have lived in Congo and have been or have lived the atmosphere of the bands can help me understanding, because being a European guy I really can't understand how guys so much talented and old can accept the ways of this guys. Because they do that (JDL and co.) because they know how weak they are without their role.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: archos on October 15, 2017, 21:32
 its pretty simple the camp of genta ficarre and co  remain loyal to jb because of how nice he is to them but at the same time try to fight the other camp all of that camp tried to live when they were failing against the power of jdl roger seguin but their love for jb makes them stay again and keep trying
  in other words they dont want to be away from jb just because of that
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 15, 2017, 21:42
its pretty simple the camp of genta ficarre and co  remain loyal to jb because of how nice he is to them but at the same time try to fight the other camp all of that camp tried to live when they were failing against the power of jdl roger seguin but their love for jb makes them stay again and keep trying
  in other words they dont want to be away from jb just because of that
I've said it before and I'll say it again it would be good if the camp of genta and ficarre left and formed a group because I honestly believe they would EASILY take more than half of the group with them
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 15, 2017, 21:50
its pretty simple the camp of genta ficarre and co  remain loyal to jb because of how nice he is to them but at the same time try to fight the other camp all of that camp tried to live when they were failing against the power of jdl roger seguin but their love for jb makes them stay again and keep trying
  in other words they dont want to be away from jb just because of that
I've said it before and I'll say it again it would be good if the camp of genta and ficarre left and formed a group because I honestly believe they would EASILY take more than half of the group with them
CM the problem is that donors of JB aren't really happy with the Ex-Mbers of BCBG without talking of Djino who basically suicide himself talking so much bad of JB Chau and Zakoko even though they remained in good terms with JB really didn't get much money from donors of Wenge BCBG so even though Genta could easily be a leader the problem is where they will get a constant base of money to start with?
And for Archos, well they are the true friends JB should rely on instead of laying himself to the guys who are ruining his career
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: archos on October 15, 2017, 21:52
very easily, every time i talk to genta he says musicians are pushing him to leave but  he does not feel it yet and he wants to honour his mother who advises him to remain in the group
only somebody who arrives with a big big project  can make it happen or if they fallout because at the moment its the heart which is making them remain that loyal for all the good things jb did to them
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 15, 2017, 21:55
What we really needed was abraham metro abel and co to form a group that would have been massive pressure on bcbg
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 15, 2017, 22:02
very easily, every time i talk to genta he says musicians are pushing him to leave but  he does not feel it yet and he wants to honour his mother who advises him to remain in the group
only somebody who arrives with a big big project  can make it happen or if they fallout because at the moment its the heart which is making them remain that loyal for all the good things jb did to them
Genta should just leave form the group but still have an excellent relationship with jb it's not hard plus if he left and fusee took over it would be fine unless he chooses to follow genta, this is ridiculous how there's no defections
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: shamala on October 16, 2017, 11:04
Forming a group is not that simple.....
i have said it again and again no-one will leave a constant stream of revenue to start hassling . Current groups that were formed recently are not that successful  in terms of income. forming a band requires that you sustain your artists . BCBG members never form bands and if they do they don't succeed very well.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 16, 2017, 16:12
I agree with Shamala, Congo in terms of work is a very poor country, so even in Music only the big big big groups get money from a very limited amount of donors, except Koffi who has a European system of paying with paycheck and all that most of the groups doesn't even pay the members, donors do.
So putting a group unless you are a guy with a lot of love by fans behind you (Fally, Ferrè, Celeo, Bill, Heritiér, Fabregas, Deplick) it is impossible to do an album or even doing a concert.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on October 16, 2017, 19:33
I wouldn't keep up with bcbg if i were in the genta group. Waste of time. The reason jbs artists do not make it by themselves, is the lack of exposure on stage and through constantly producing music. Jb takes 10yrs to produce one primus promo song. How does a young Obama get exposed? No way. I have said time and time again, fat Jb needed a mass revolution n mass exodus. Chai, zulema, Abraham, nono Fuji, sakoko , genta should have done a faction.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Ken Bilele on October 17, 2017, 09:54
very easily, every time i talk to genta he says musicians are pushing him to leave but  he does not feel it yet and he wants to honour his mother who advises him to remain in the group
only somebody who arrives with a big big project  can make it happen or if they fallout because at the moment its the heart which is making them remain that loyal for all the good things jb did to them

Some of the reasons which keep guys in BCBG are laughable. What if the mother wants Genta to stay but JB doesn't? BCBG is becoming a museum.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: archos on October 17, 2017, 10:11
lol to explain better the story about genta's mother he was about to leave and form band with chai and some guys who remained in bcbg,he had bought instruments with money he saved  but was not  extremely bold and determined to leave at all costs and when he informed his mother she told him"jb has done nothing bad to you,all your brothers have gone very far at school but of all of them its you who struggled to just finish high school who bought me and your late father this huge house and who sent all your brothers to europe,so think twice,go ahead if you feel its God's plan but as your mother i'd suggest you to think twice and stay because i already see you happy where you are"
and since he was not totally keen on leaving he gave his instruments to chai and remained
mother's do not have the same logic of career we have as fans it seems even les marquis most of the mothers were not too keen on them leaving
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 17, 2017, 12:41
lol to explain better the story about genta's mother he was about to leave and form band with chai and some guys who remained in bcbg,he had bought instruments with money he saved  but was not  extremely bold and determined to leave at all costs and when he informed his mother she told him"jb has done nothing bad to you,all your brothers have gone very far at school but of all of them its you who struggled to just finish high school who bought me and your late father this huge house and who sent all your brothers to europe,so think twice,go ahead if you feel its God's plan but as your mother i'd suggest you to think twice and stay because i already see you happy where you are"
and since he was not totally keen on leaving he gave his instruments to chai and remained
mother's do not have the same logic of career we have as fans it seems even les marquis most of the mothers were not too keen on them leaving
Ahhh mothers aye always the voice of reason it was good he didn't leave with chai look where he is now but he can still leave and take most of bcbg with him
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 17, 2017, 17:09
lol to explain better the story about genta's mother he was about to leave and form band with chai and some guys who remained in bcbg,he had bought instruments with money he saved  but was not  extremely bold and determined to leave at all costs and when he informed his mother she told him"jb has done nothing bad to you,all your brothers have gone very far at school but of all of them its you who struggled to just finish high school who bought me and your late father this huge house and who sent all your brothers to europe,so think twice,go ahead if you feel its God's plan but as your mother i'd suggest you to think twice and stay because i already see you happy where you are"
and since he was not totally keen on leaving he gave his instruments to chai and remained
mother's do not have the same logic of career we have as fans it seems even les marquis most of the mothers were not too keen on them leaving
You know it is crazy how life can turn things around, his brothers (Genta's) even though they have gone far at school they relied on the guy who struggle to finish
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on October 19, 2017, 08:05
The other thing that shocks me is why fans in Congo do not Boooo at the the mikulis when they are on stage.
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 19, 2017, 11:55
I'm fed up with this useless band thank god im not a diehard jb or bcbg band QL and Maison mere were the groups that I was interested in but still I feel sorry for bcbg fans
Title: Re: WENGE BCBG... NEW SLAVES???
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 19, 2017, 13:01
The other thing that shocks me is why fans in Congo do not Boooo at the the mikulis when they are on stage.
EMO the leader figure in Congo is seen as a semi-god if something is wrong it is never fault of the leaders but is to blame on the Chef D'Orchestre and the other members that's why you will never see Werra booed at LA Zamba or JB not getting booed at concert