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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Longbluesquid on March 06, 2018, 12:58

Title: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 06, 2018, 12:58
https://tidal.com/album/85145149

Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Seben_Maniac on March 06, 2018, 15:10
Bought the album. I would give it a 7/10. I was surprised that the album was 90% sebene. But don't let that fool you. Despite having some really good and classic parts, it was quite repetive as it retained that same monotonous brazza sound. It had so much potential but I feel like they were too scared to go all out and be innovative.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: archos on March 06, 2018, 15:23
 yeah i agree but the  positivei find  is that there is zero song with dominant programming
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 06, 2018, 15:51
I'm just starting the album now haha.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Seben_Maniac on March 06, 2018, 22:08
yeah i agree but the  positivei find  is that there is zero song with dominant programming
True. Hopefully this is a start of bigger things to come.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: mokosarkani on March 09, 2018, 23:48
one thought they would have released a video to go along, terrible strategy indeed
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 10, 2018, 04:54
The album disappeared from Tidal this evening.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Matebu on March 10, 2018, 05:56
The album disappeared from Tidal this evening.

It's been pulled everywhere now. I'm hearing that artists and production companies are pulling albums if they are not getting the revenue they're looking for. Example: Adolphe Dominguez

Nothing more frustrating than being in the mood to listen to an album, then finding out it's been taken down.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Seben_Maniac on March 10, 2018, 06:46
I don't really think tidal or these other streaming services have a good African music audience if I'm correct. So maybe this happens with a lot of African albums
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Matebu on March 10, 2018, 07:34
I don't really think tidal or these other streaming services have a good African music audience if I'm correct. So maybe this happens with a lot of African albums

In this case, the album has been pulled from Tidal & Apple music. Apple music has the largest library for African music from my experience
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: archos on March 10, 2018, 09:04
 the version i hear is that they did not get delivery  of cds as scheduled on the 8th so as they wanted to release on all platforms in same time they took a step back
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 10, 2018, 14:38
The issue is promotion. CDs would cost them more money in the start. But now people have been moving away from CDs, streaming cuts down on piracy.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 10, 2018, 14:44
That album was so good!
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Zaiko on March 10, 2018, 22:50
I listened to this album, honestly as a huge fan of the Extra Music sound...I am really disappointed, though it should be expected. Im speaking from the standpoint of a non-lingala speaker but as musician and a huge fan of the seben/soukous. Like others have mentioned before, the sound of Extra is the same thing over and over.  The fact that this album is mostly seben sound I think hurts it simply because the beat is the exact same song for every song. If you were to run each seben one after the next you can't really tell you're on a new song. This was an album that was purely recycled Extra Music/Wenge songs. I feel Extra Music with this album has not advanced their music one bit, they've actually regressed. Nothing innovative here

From a pure musical standpoint based on the quality of the music alone and my bias towards their sound it gets a 7/10. Nothing innovative or different vs the music of today.
From the standpoint of knowing the previous work and how this album is recycled..a solid 2/10.

This album sounds like a more polished version of previous albums 100%. The sound is not bad rather just absolutely nothing new.
1.  242: This song sounds just like Sorcille Kindoki from start to end. The distorted guitar solo at the end is used in at least 5 other songs in this album and has been heard before in songs over the past. "Jesu sur la croix" The entire arrangement is the same song
2. Ingratitude sounds like a song from Wenge's Les Anges Adorables mixed with something from Shalai album
3. MM International...see number 2 and number, solo sounds like Innodation
4. Same as number 2 with "Jesu sur la croix" solo
5. Another previous rumba
6. See number 2
7. Le philanthrope starts off like and old Wenge/Shalai/Obligatoire song then he literally goes into the same solo from Innodation @ 3:15
8. Le jour sinistre....This song is the same as Chagrin plus plus..LITERALLY!. Bass line gives it away. It transitions into a Makaba ish rift at the end.
9. Drumming actually sounds a lot like one of Papy Kakol's on a Maison Mere album...cant think of the song. It transitions into a halfway solo and goes back into the "Jesu sur la croix" solo
10. Toko Suka Wapi...I had hope. But again its just and old song repackaged. They took Chagrin plus plus and put it in a major key in the 7/7 progression. Then again "Jesu sur la croix" solo at the end.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: mokosarkani on March 11, 2018, 17:30
I listened to this album, honestly as a huge fan of the Extra Music sound...I am really disappointed, though it should be expected. Im speaking from the standpoint of a non-lingala speaker but as musician and a huge fan of the seben/soukous. Like others have mentioned before, the sound of Extra is the same thing over and over.  The fact that this album is mostly seben sound I think hurts it simply because the beat is the exact same song for every song. If you were to run each seben one after the next you can't really tell you're on a new song. This was an album that was purely recycled Extra Music/Wenge songs. I feel Extra Music with this album has not advanced their music one bit, they've actually regressed. Nothing innovative here

From a pure musical standpoint based on the quality of the music alone and my bias towards their sound it gets a 7/10. Nothing innovative or different vs the music of today.
From the standpoint of knowing the previous work and how this album is recycled..a solid 2/10.

This album sounds like a more polished version of previous albums 100%. The sound is not bad rather just absolutely nothing new.
1.  242: This song sounds just like Sorcille Kindoki from start to end. The distorted guitar solo at the end is used in at least 5 other songs in this album and has been heard before in songs over the past. "Jesu sur la croix" The entire arrangement is the same song
2. Ingratitude sounds like a song from Wenge's Les Anges Adorables mixed with something from Shalai album
3. MM International...see number 2 and number, solo sounds like Innodation
4. Same as number 2 with "Jesu sur la croix" solo
5. Another previous rumba
6. See number 2
7. Le philanthrope starts off like and old Wenge/Shalai/Obligatoire song then he literally goes into the same solo from Innodation @ 3:15
8. Le jour sinistre....This song is the same as Chagrin plus plus..LITERALLY!. Bass line gives it away. It transitions into a Makaba ish rift at the end.
9. Drumming actually sounds a lot like one of Papy Kakol's on a Maison Mere album...cant think of the song. It transitions into a halfway solo and goes back into the "Jesu sur la croix" solo
10. Toko Suka Wapi...I had hope. But again its just and old song repackaged. They took Chagrin plus plus and put it in a major key in the 7/7 progression. Then again "Jesu sur la croix" solo at the end.

well damnnnn
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: archos on March 12, 2018, 19:28
one thing i find worrying with extra that generiques keep getting worse and worse trop c'est trop is better than obligatoire which is better than la main noire,which is so so with sorcellerie, contentieux.... It feels strange to have that feeling to listen to an extra generique and have no moment of "wow,let me go back there" like with trop c'est trop
maybe they suffer from lack of competition so they think it will succeed anyway since its roga
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Longbluesquid on March 12, 2018, 20:03
Etat major and Shalai wow Freddy Nelson also. How can we not have those again? I think someone needs to remind them again. To be honest lots of artist need to be reminded what they have done in the past: Werrason, Koffi, JB etc.
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: BG-ground on March 13, 2018, 22:49
I listened to this album, honestly as a huge fan of the Extra Music sound...I am really disappointed, though it should be expected. Im speaking from the standpoint of a non-lingala speaker but as musician and a huge fan of the seben/soukous. Like others have mentioned before, the sound of Extra is the same thing over and over.  The fact that this album is mostly seben sound I think hurts it simply because the beat is the exact same song for every song. If you were to run each seben one after the next you can't really tell you're on a new song. This was an album that was purely recycled Extra Music/Wenge songs. I feel Extra Music with this album has not advanced their music one bit, they've actually regressed. Nothing innovative here

From a pure musical standpoint based on the quality of the music alone and my bias towards their sound it gets a 7/10. Nothing innovative or different vs the music of today.
From the standpoint of knowing the previous work and how this album is recycled..a solid 2/10.

This album sounds like a more polished version of previous albums 100%. The sound is not bad rather just absolutely nothing new.
1.  242: This song sounds just like Sorcille Kindoki from start to end. The distorted guitar solo at the end is used in at least 5 other songs in this album and has been heard before in songs over the past. "Jesu sur la croix" The entire arrangement is the same song
2. Ingratitude sounds like a song from Wenge's Les Anges Adorables mixed with something from Shalai album
3. MM International...see number 2 and number, solo sounds like Innodation
4. Same as number 2 with "Jesu sur la croix" solo
5. Another previous rumba
6. See number 2
7. Le philanthrope starts off like and old Wenge/Shalai/Obligatoire song then he literally goes into the same solo from Innodation @ 3:15
8. Le jour sinistre....This song is the same as Chagrin plus plus..LITERALLY!. Bass line gives it away. It transitions into a Makaba ish rift at the end.
9. Drumming actually sounds a lot like one of Papy Kakol's on a Maison Mere album...cant think of the song. It transitions into a halfway solo and goes back into the "Jesu sur la croix" solo
10. Toko Suka Wapi...I had hope. But again its just and old song repackaged. They took Chagrin plus plus and put it in a major key in the 7/7 progression. Then again "Jesu sur la croix" solo at the end.

Things I like to read!!!
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Wenge1995 on March 16, 2018, 06:31
@archos

There's NO band in Brazza that can compete with them neck and neck, so that fire to prove something isn't there.

Their best work came from polemic; Trop C'est Trop and Shalai. But ever since Extra Musica International folded and the second split in 2005, Roga Roga felt no need to push the creative envelope because he feels like they've "won".

Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: archos on March 16, 2018, 16:50
indded,just relistening to album just figured out dancer sorel got a song ingratitude and sang on it,gotta be the first of both congo's to do it,and there is a new atalaku also
toko suka wapi of mbonda player pitos sounds like a trop c est trop song
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: Toolz on March 17, 2018, 22:43
I listened to this album, honestly as a huge fan of the Extra Music sound...I am really disappointed, though it should be expected. Im speaking from the standpoint of a non-lingala speaker but as musician and a huge fan of the seben/soukous. Like others have mentioned before, the sound of Extra is the same thing over and over.  The fact that this album is mostly seben sound I think hurts it simply because the beat is the exact same song for every song. If you were to run each seben one after the next you can't really tell you're on a new song. This was an album that was purely recycled Extra Music/Wenge songs. I feel Extra Music with this album has not advanced their music one bit, they've actually regressed. Nothing innovative here

From a pure musical standpoint based on the quality of the music alone and my bias towards their sound it gets a 7/10. Nothing innovative or different vs the music of today.
From the standpoint of knowing the previous work and how this album is recycled..a solid 2/10.

This album sounds like a more polished version of previous albums 100%. The sound is not bad rather just absolutely nothing new.
1.  242: This song sounds just like Sorcille Kindoki from start to end. The distorted guitar solo at the end is used in at least 5 other songs in this album and has been heard before in songs over the past. "Jesu sur la croix" The entire arrangement is the same song
2. Ingratitude sounds like a song from Wenge's Les Anges Adorables mixed with something from Shalai album
3. MM International...see number 2 and number, solo sounds like Innodation
4. Same as number 2 with "Jesu sur la croix" solo
5. Another previous rumba
6. See number 2
7. Le philanthrope starts off like and old Wenge/Shalai/Obligatoire song then he literally goes into the same solo from Innodation @ 3:15
8. Le jour sinistre....This song is the same as Chagrin plus plus..LITERALLY!. Bass line gives it away. It transitions into a Makaba ish rift at the end.
9. Drumming actually sounds a lot like one of Papy Kakol's on a Maison Mere album...cant think of the song. It transitions into a halfway solo and goes back into the "Jesu sur la croix" solo
10. Toko Suka Wapi...I had hope. But again its just and old song repackaged. They took Chagrin plus plus and put it in a major key in the 7/7 progression. Then again "Jesu sur la croix" solo at the end.

Cool...
Title: Re: Extra musica 242 is out
Post by: BG-ground on March 18, 2018, 21:39
I listen to it hoping you guys were wrong... but my God, I had to keep checking if it didn’t randomly started playing a previous album