Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on May 01, 2018, 22:35
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https://youtu.be/yJhDqksP-B0
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Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then saying what he did wrong to Werrason to get those attacks kiekiekiekie. Aah Hertier oza lokola mpuku hein kiekiekie.
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The Maison Mere-camp will start with attacks and Franck Stemay & Vicent Tshiluizi doing those analyse videos.
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He was suspended by maison mere and also a bit bellitled in the miel kakol thing but i did not expect it because he remained loyal through even deeper issues,he sometimes played being very sick as nsone did not trust the reserves
kiekiekie muana mayi oyebi vraiment, i can already see djo vince doing that serious face" moi je conseillerais a heritier d'arreter de recriter les misiciens de werranson" :D :D :D then bring the name of hustler or el professor like them tribunal are calling him in the mix
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He was suspended by maison mere and also a bit bellitled in the miel kakol thing but i did not expect it because he remained loyal through even deeper issues,he sometimes played being very sick as nsone did not trust the reserves
kiekiekie muana mayi oyebi vraiment, i can already see djo vince doing that serious face" moi je conseillerais a heritier d'arreter de recriter les misiciens de werranson" :D :D :D then bring the name of hustler or el professor like them tribunal are calling him in the mix
kiekiekiekie soki esalemi exactement ndenge olobi wana il faut napesa yo 1000 dollar kiekiekie. It's already 1 year that i'm hearing that Heriter wants to recruit Kakol. If that happens then it will be over for Werrason. I was a little bit doubting about what Heritier said about paying his musicians, but it is true. My cousin in Kinshasa helped alot of musicians creating bankaccounts at FBN bank yesterday.
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Who would’ve known Werra’s biggest current threat would be his ex-star employee who actually pays his musicians properly? ;D
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What about Manzeku? No need for that much people in one band. Some artists in La Team Wata didn't have bank accounts?
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What about Manzeku? No need for that much people in one band. Some artists in La Team Wata didn't have bank accounts?
Don't foget that it's DR Congo and not Europe and USA. 80% of the population of Congo doesn't have work and do "ba cops" to survive. The most people who have a offical work are paid trought the hand and don't also forget that the all musicians aren't paid via the bank. The money is given by the boss himself at home or after the concert in the hotel. Peoples who have bankaccounts are mostly people who work for the governement, the bank, international companies (Bralima, Bracongo,etc.) or teachers of universities, high schools, collegues and sometimes also elementary schools, but thats rare.
The musicians of Heritier went massive to banks in Kinshasa (Rawbank, FBN Bank, etc.) to create bankaccounts, after that Heritier said in the interview with Mamie Ilela that he would pay them trought the bank. So that if one artist leave one day and say that they weren't paying, that Heritier can prove that it itsn't true.
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So when musicians get money from donors and the boss they didn't deposit it in the banks? I find that hard to believe.
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So when musicians get money from donors and the boss they didn't deposit it in the banks? I find that hard to believe.
Bro, for the longest time (even in recent years) people did not trust banks in Kinshasa because the currency was so unstable. Hyperinflation was so bad in the 90's before Mobutu was overthrown, you could use the the highest Zaire bills as toliet paper. If you put your earnings in the bank you could've gone broke overnight.
Even now, people in Kinshasa want to be paid in US dollars.... same thing for concert prices being always listed in US dollars.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/he8f8olo9/Screen_Shot_2018-05-01_at_9.34.28_PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Maison Mere-camp will start with attacks and Franck Stemay & Vicent Tshiluizi doing those analyse videos.
He was suspended by maison mere and also a bit bellitled in the miel kakol thing but i did not expect it because he remained loyal through even deeper issues,he sometimes played being very sick as nsone did not trust the reserves
kiekiekie muana mayi oyebi vraiment, i can already see djo vince doing that serious face" moi je conseillerais a heritier d'arreter de recriter les misiciens de werranson" :D :D :D then bring the name of hustler or el professor like them tribunal are calling him in the mix
hahaha na kufi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Who would’ve known Werra’s biggest current threat would be his ex-star employee who actually pays his musicians properly? ;D
somehow it's very good because it gives value to the musicians, and it will push other leaders to do the same, in the end the musicians will have at least a regular salary instead of being paid every 3 months
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So when musicians get money from donors and the boss they didn't deposit it in the banks? I find that hard to believe.
Bro, for the longest time (even in recent years) people did not trust banks in Kinshasa because the currency was so unstable. Hyperinflation was so bad in the 90's before Mobutu was overthrown, you could use the the highest Zaire bills as toliet paper. If you put your earnings in the bank you could've gone broke overnight.
Even now, people in Kinshasa want to be paid in US dollars.... same thing for concert prices being always listed in US dollars.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/he8f8olo9/Screen_Shot_2018-05-01_at_9.34.28_PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Those inflation figures are similar to what Zambia had in the late 80s and 90s before it fell to less than 10 percent. Just as an example, a US$8 25 kg bag of maize meal in Zambia costs somewhere in excess of US$35 in DRC. Those doing cross border trade between the two countries are making abnormal profits.
Here is the photo Wata posted yesterday about the migration to bank payments.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/w7kidaadr/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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https://youtu.be/yJhDqksP-B0
Olivier must really be a calculating and strategic recruiter!?
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yes he explained that when he was still in maison mere,they'd point who they plan to recruit,then send him on mission to get them and he is basically doing the same thing in team wata,he says there is also a guitarist who wants to come but he is afraid to make the strong statement so he plays minds games with maison mere
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Here is the photo Wata posted yesterday about the migration to bank payments.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/w7kidaadr/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This is a great thing Heritier is doing. The more Congolese invest and put their money in banks, the more good it does for the economy.
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I wish Herritier could focus on producing good music as well because overcrowding his band with WMM guys will not make him better. He gets Olivier, Werra gets four good new musicians who can do Olivier parts well. He gets Arnake, Werra gets new Ferre, Satellite and Djenny. He gets Ali Mbonda......Already replaced. He gets Ambulance, Werra gets a better and all rounded guy in Jamaique. What this is doing is crowding his band, making some musicians dissatisfied and putting pressure on the sustainability of salaries as the group grows. He is on the losing side of the equation and should wake up and make a name otherwise, he is behind Ferre, Fally and Fabregas.
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Mayi Ya Ndombe is next, anyway, it isn't a surprise he wasn't happy when Taddet amd friends had the chance to have a car while he left with nothing, add this the fact he is not the Chef D'Orchestre despite being the guy who is been there from the most time only because he went to JB once, he got suspended like he was a little kid, I would have gone to Heritier too, enough is enough, how can you treat someone like that don't pay him and expect loyalty in exchange???
Few months earlier I told the forum Alibonda wasn't happy and Wenge would have collapse but very few believed me now you have seen Ambulance and Ali Mbinda going away like air
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All those departures will never affect the WMMM sound as long as Werrason is there. Other more interesting characters have left but what....??? Mboka Liya, Japonnais, Kimbangu, Flamme Kapaya and the whole Les Marquis were bigger departures than the Arnakes and Mayi Ndombes of this world. Maison Mere will not die simply because Ali Mbonda or Mayi Ndombe or any other guy left. They will be replaced in a flash and life continues!!
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All those departures will never affect the WMMM sound as long as Werrason is there. Other more interesting characters have left but what....??? Mboka Liya, Japonnais, Kimbangu, Flamme Kapaya and the whole Les Marquis were bigger departures than the Arnakes and Mayi Ndombes of this world. Maison Mere will not die simply because Ali Mbonda or Mayi Ndombe or any other guy left. They will be replaced in a flash and life continues!!
Yep, that’s how Maison Mère has always operated. I highly doubt Werra lost any sleep, plus he has a long waiting list of people who want to audition for MM every Thursday at Zamba Playa.
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So when musicians get money from donors and the boss they didn't deposit it in the banks? I find that hard to believe.
Bro, for the longest time (even in recent years) people did not trust banks in Kinshasa because the currency was so unstable. Hyperinflation was so bad in the 90's before Mobutu was overthrown, you could use the the highest Zaire bills as toliet paper. If you put your earnings in the bank you could've gone broke overnight.
Even now, people in Kinshasa want to be paid in US dollars.... same thing for concert prices being always listed in US dollars.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/he8f8olo9/Screen_Shot_2018-05-01_at_9.34.28_PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Wow that's bad, if people prefer foreign currency then it will deflate the value of their domestic currency. Hopefully one day in the near future Congo will able to fix the financial system and be a stable country.
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Here is the photo Wata posted yesterday about the migration to bank payments.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/w7kidaadr/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Why is Carine even there? Is she even an official La Team Wata member?
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Here is the photo Wata posted yesterday about the migration to bank payments.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/w7kidaadr/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Why is Carine even there? Is she even an official La Team Wata member?
Carine is not supposed to be a member of the Team Wata but Héritier takes him wherever he goes and I think he does not open bank accounts only for his musicians but also for the members of his staff who are under his orders. Daddy Mula, Francis Dibaya, for example, must have had an opening of bank accounts
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yeah indeed for all of them, and i hear some of the team wata donors united to offer them all 5000 dollars on their account to start
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Who would’ve known Werra’s biggest current threat would be his ex-star employee who actually pays his musicians properly? ;D
LOL. How is Herritier even a threat to Werra, let alone the biggest threat. The sooner Herritier learns that he is on the losing end of this fight the better for him. Werra uses these departures to recreate the buzz within Maison Mere & quite frankly its' working perfectly for him. A good example is the case of Ambulance & Anti Balle who were all replaced in one swoop by a more superior Jamaique & the buzz hasn't stopped to date.
Secondly there is no shortage of talent Maison Mere & the entire DRC. There is a long queue of musicians waiting to take up the space of the ones leaving. End result; Maison Mere is continuously churning out fresh talent while Watta is crowding his group with Maison Mere's old faces. At some point the crowding will cause discomfort & these musicians will start looking for way back to Maison Mere
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Who would’ve known Werra’s biggest current threat would be his ex-star employee who actually pays his musicians properly? ;D
LOL. How is Herritier even a threat to Werra, let alone the biggest threat. The sooner Herritier learns that he is on the losing end of this fight the better for him. Werra uses these departures to recreate the buzz within Maison Mere & quite frankly its' working perfectly for him. A good example is the case of Ambulance & Anti Balle who were all replaced in one swoop by a more superior Jamaique & the buzz hasn't stopped to date.
Secondly there is no shortage of talent Maison Mere & the entire DRC. There is a long queue of musicians waiting to take up the space of the ones leaving. End result; Maison Mere is continuously churning out fresh talent while Watta is crowding his group with Maison Mere's old faces. At some point the crowding will cause discomfort & these musicians will start looking for way back to Maison Mere
I was kidding, you’ve taken my comment too seriously. Like i said earlier Werra “le grand formateur” isn’t loosing sleep over this.
As great as Al Mbonda is, he’s getting pretty old now. A fresh mbonda player could provide a big spark if energy.