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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on July 13, 2018, 07:45

Title: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 13, 2018, 07:45

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Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Ken Bilele on July 13, 2018, 08:37
Good for him. I wish him well, he needs to stage a serious show and he will be getting more outside Congo.
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Jdog on July 13, 2018, 10:14
Good, they neee to start performing outside of Congo and Angola already. (They would've done that already last summer but those idiots messed it all up)
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Congolitude on July 13, 2018, 12:13
In recent times, journalists have put so much pressure on him that he still has not played in Abidjan while his producer David Monsoh is Ivorian and in 2007, a year after the release of Droit Chemin, Fally had already played in Abidjan and they did not understand why David Monsoh did not do the same for Héritier
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: archos on July 13, 2018, 12:24
I heard it took such time because monsoh had some problems in ivory coast and now its all solved and he had time to prepare promotion for him in the meantime
on a another note,djino did not perform in abidjan either :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Congolitude on July 13, 2018, 12:55
I heard it took such time because monsoh had some problems in ivory coast and now its all solved and he had time to prepare promotion for him in the meantime
on a another note,djino did not perform in abidjan either :D :D :D :D :D

Djino still plays music ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Manzambi94 on July 13, 2018, 13:05
I heard it took such time because monsoh had some problems in ivory coast and now its all solved and he had time to prepare promotion for him in the meantime
on a another note,djino did not perform in abidjan either :D :D :D :D :D
Do you mean Djino Kezipame? The one of BCBG? He is a little bit like Don Quixote when he was fighting windmills.
He went to Greece to proof a point to Heritier with Heritier not even giving him a bit of attention, he started to insult JB for getting helped by Koffi, but Koffi didn't gave him anything, now he doesn't even have a fresh video since a lot of time, all this for what? He should have stayed from JB
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 13, 2018, 14:21
I noticed that people are now paying attention to Retirada, while in the first months, people were saying 'will not listen to him because he talks to much' or  listen to Sankara and the maison mere-camp who were doing everything to let the album fail and Maison Mere spokemen everytime saying 'album ya petit wana esimbi', etc.

Some people are against Heritier's decision of releasing his next album this year, while Retirada will soon become 2 years old. I see him already taking Ferre place over, like Koffi took Emeneya place over and started competiting against Wemba.
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: ZamundaPrince on July 13, 2018, 16:23
I noticed that people are now paying attention to Retirada, while in the first months, people were saying 'will not listen to him because he talks to much' or  listen to Sankara and the maison mere-camp who were doing everything to let the album fail and Maison Mere spokemen everytime saying 'album ya petit wana esimbi', etc.

Some people are against Heritier's decision of releasing his next album this year, while Retirada will soon become 2 years old. I see him already taking Ferre place over, like Koffi took Emeneya place over and started competiting against Wemba.

How do you ascertain the fact that people are now paying attention to retirada? Is there some source for this data or is it just personal opinion?
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Matebu on July 13, 2018, 16:31
^ I was wondering the same thing. Rhumbas/clips like BM, D ee D, Abeti Faux, and J’aime mon mari we hits from day 1
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: archos on July 13, 2018, 16:32
no its real,in the early days the buzz and polemique overshadowed album except bm which was released before,but i can guarantee you especially in kin half that album at least has become automatic on bars nightclubs and co playlists
its not a success like a storm obviously  like in early 2000"q but still  went pretty good in the long run its like some people discovered album months later and though wait a minute that album was actually good
so it maintained and even increased the demand he had for concerts


Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: ZamundaPrince on July 13, 2018, 16:54
no its real,in the early days the buzz and polemique overshadowed album except bm which was released before,but i can guarantee you especially in kin half that album at least has become automatic on bars nightclubs and co playlists
its not a success like a storm obviously  like in early 2000"q but still  went pretty good in the long run its like some people discovered album months later and though wait a minute that album was actually good
so it maintained and even increased the demand he had for concerts

Fair enough.

I Still think Herritier does himself a lot of injustice by engaging in useless polemic with Werrason & Maison Mere. Fere & Fally caught all the important attention because their debut albums were quite good and fans only focused on that. From that point onward it was somewhat easier for them because they got an almost immediate acceptance & the fanbase was looking forward to their subsequent releases & concerts. There is a level of acceptance that once you gain is not easy to lose unless you completely slacken up like Tata Dominguez did.

Retirada could be good but in all honesty it lacked that big bang effect. It's more of a squandered opportunity. We didn't see any major concerts like Ferre's Bandal. All we remember with the retirada is the beef with Werrason.

When an album picks up 2 years after release, to me there's no difference to when I bumped into group Djolino's Impact or Manda Chante's Je suis in the sense that the window of opportunity is somewhat closed.

Watta should go ahead and release another album but this time give all his attention to promoting his music than beefing with others. Fabro's first release wasn't such a big hit but he still found a formula and his career has gained traction.
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 13, 2018, 17:12
no its real,in the early days the buzz and polemique overshadowed album except bm which was released before,but i can guarantee you especially in kin half that album at least has become automatic on bars nightclubs and co playlists
its not a success like a storm obviously  like in early 2000"q but still  went pretty good in the long run its like some people discovered album months later and though wait a minute that album was actually good
so it maintained and even increased the demand he had for concerts

Yeah, I wanted to same thing. Things went wrong because of those sextapes with Julie Kitima and another girl (i dordet her name, she half lebanese) “Gogane je suis mort” and many other scandals, also those polemics against Werrason & Fally (in the underground) and the live ADT Yanki Mpuy madeclaiming that Heritier is gay (naming Daddy Kimberly and that he have pictures). This all overshadowed the album in the first year. People critized for more not focusing on the promotion of his album and only putting energy in attacking Fally & Werrason and those making buzz. In 2016 and the first half of 2017 everybody was mocking Heritier for “je met mon main a coupé, soki retirada esimbi te, bokata nga loboko” and Sankara then recording a video with Juvenal who went viral.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Oi27tOISw



Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 13, 2018, 17:16
no its real,in the early days the buzz and polemique overshadowed album except bm which was released before,but i can guarantee you especially in kin half that album at least has become automatic on bars nightclubs and co playlists
its not a success like a storm obviously  like in early 2000"q but still  went pretty good in the long run its like some people discovered album months later and though wait a minute that album was actually good
so it maintained and even increased the demand he had for concerts

Fair enough.

I Still think Herritier does himself a lot of injustice by engaging in useless polemic with Werrason & Maison Mere. Fere & Fally caught all the important attention because their debut albums were quite good and fans only focused on that. From that point onward it was somewhat easier for them because they got an almost immediate acceptance & the fanbase was looking forward to their subsequent releases & concerts. There is a level of acceptance that once you gain is not easy to lose unless you completely slacken up like Tata Dominguez did.

Retirada could be good but in all honesty it lacked that big bang effect. It's more of a squandered opportunity. We didn't see any major concerts like Ferre's Bandal. All we remember with the retirada is the beef with Werrason.

When an album picks up 2 years after release, to me there's no difference to when I bumped into group Djolino's Impact or Manda Chante's Je suis in the sense that the window of opportunity is somewhat closed.

Watta should go ahead and release another album but this time give all his attention to promoting his music than beefing with others. Fabro's first release wasn't such a big hit but he still found a formula and his career has gained traction.

Aboutaleb Heritier having big crowded concerts his because of the economie situation of DR Congo on this moment and people are more focused on politics since 2016. Congolese bandleiders have difficulties to perform in front of big crowds in Kinshasa since 2013-14, while those beer-concerts of Skol & Primus are for free.

Nobody excepted something of Fabregas. People didn’t take him serious when he started his solo career until he signed with Koffi-Central. Heritier’s situation is different, people excepted much from him and there was alot pressure on his shoulders, don’t forget that people talk abouts Heritier’s album since 2007-08 with Heritier also talking to much. His concert at Romeo Golf, made people also except from his Atalaku-departement (Kunzardo & Brandon Avatar). With them being dissapointed with the generique and saying that Heritier doesn’t have a mabanga-voice.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOf4gA4xnsQ
Title: Re: Heritier Watanabe will perform in Abidjan
Post by: Ken Bilele on July 13, 2018, 18:15
no its real,in the early days the buzz and polemique overshadowed album except bm which was released before,but i can guarantee you especially in kin half that album at least has become automatic on bars nightclubs and co playlists
its not a success like a storm obviously  like in early 2000"q but still  went pretty good in the long run its like some people discovered album months later and though wait a minute that album was actually good
so it maintained and even increased the demand he had for concerts

Fair enough.

I Still think Herritier does himself a lot of injustice by engaging in useless polemic with Werrason & Maison Mere. Fere & Fally caught all the important attention because their debut albums were quite good and fans only focused on that. From that point onward it was somewhat easier for them because they got an almost immediate acceptance & the fanbase was looking forward to their subsequent releases & concerts. There is a level of acceptance that once you gain is not easy to lose unless you completely slacken up like Tata Dominguez did.

Retirada could be good but in all honesty it lacked that big bang effect. It's more of a squandered opportunity. We didn't see any major concerts like Ferre's Bandal. All we remember with the retirada is the beef with Werrason.

When an album picks up 2 years after release, to me there's no difference to when I bumped into group Djolino's Impact or Manda Chante's Je suis in the sense that the window of opportunity is somewhat closed.

Watta should go ahead and release another album but this time give all his attention to promoting his music than beefing with others. Fabro's first release wasn't such a big hit but he still found a formula and his career has gained traction.

I would say his tactic did not work well. Attacking Werra and fally was in itself a promotional strategy for Retirada. Honestly what pissed many people is his sense of entitlement to success. I think he's also learned out of that big mouth he developed in the process. For sure Retirada should have gained more traction than what it got.