Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on September 05, 2018, 00:32
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https://youtu.be/e452swKmJw8
Most of interview is quite known already(his various struggles at beginning of maison mere,les marquis,how he was forced out)
and he reveals his problems with fally started when kanza and equaliseur left fally(since fally from his own words considers who is not with him a traitor automatically and prefers an enemy to a traitor)and when they came back to kin they brought him celeo one nice shoe each as a gift and they were chatting and somebody saw them and reported to fally and fally ordered everybody around him to start ignoring him while most were his friends and the first sign of it is that he went to studio ndiaye to get the beat of his feat with awilo and it happened that fally was in the studio and fally's guys were unusually cold to him and one even tried to block him from entering and he told him he'd beat him if he continues
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unfortunately with 99,99999999 per cent of our leaders,once they really cement some success,the stupidest little thing is already big enough to cause feud between them and instead of changeing it is worst,a guy like innos b for example has three generations ahead of him who he can see operate like that,how wont he become like that(if he is not already) unless he is exceptionally smart)
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Did Werrason have a problem with Fally ? Or was it that he couldn't accept that someone from nowhere took his number 1 spot. Because after hearing this, the interview of Lacoste, etc. it looks like he had a problem with him. With it getting worser after the interview with Claudy Siar or the moment at Stade de France.
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If Loris La Congolaise didn't inform him than we would not have heard him on the generique of Solola Bien. I see Werrason's face already when he saw him entering the studio hahahaha. That was a dangerous situation with him walking to "La Defense" a car could have hit him. If Wasenga didn't talk about monotony to Werra than he would surely have only 1 cri or not even haven't participated to generique. After Kibuisa Mpimpa Celeo100% sure of his place in Maison Mere.
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I think we’re all feeling more sympathetic to Celeo recently despite some of his antics. He was shafted from day 1 and if it weren’t for perseverance he would’ve lastef at all
Man, ya Ngiama...
@Manzambi, must be tough as a big Maison Mère fan but not a zealous fanatic
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@mvulusi96
Had Celeo Scram been removed from Wenge back then, who could have replaced his?
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Everybody. Kinshasa is a big city with many talented atalaku’s. It’s easy to replace musicians. We have all seen that from the start of the Congolese music-Industries in the 40’s until now. Back in 1999/2000 Celeo hadn’t the respect from fans he started to get from 2002 or Alerte Generale. The most people were more in Bill Clinton Kalonji. The concerts of USA & Canada were animated by Bill Clinton himself. Before Intervention Rapide there were many concerts where Bill was doing the animation by himself. Back those days it was normal to have only one atalaku.
The contributions of Celeo in Solola Bien & Intervention Rapide were not big. Having only 2/3 cries. So it would have been very easy to replace him. Before Bercy, Werrason wanted to replace Celeo by Doudou Kibibda after hearing that he slept with female dancer Bibiche which made him furious. But Celeo was lucking that the whole band defended him.
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I actually feel sorry for celeo, in my opinion all of his cries no matter how small from intervention rapide all the way to sous sol were catchy. He didn't deserve the BS he had to put up with from Werra
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werra sent the likes of late was' kimpuni to get him ocean from el paris but its ferre and baby who stood for him and said no pres let him have his chance he has been there almost from day 1,behind the scenes nsone was telling ferre to try to convince his friend genta to come back since he could also do tenor back then,even at bercy if not for the main men of the group celeo was meant to stay behind werra tried to get doudou kibinda who is a singer and sometimes does animation to complement bill at bercy using the pretext that celeo dated a dancer,while all the chefs had affairs here and there with dancers without it being a problem
you'll notice that celeo was so fired up to prove werra a point that he hit probably his highest notes ever at a concert at times
the problem with fally is that out of nowhere he came to trouble the hierarchy,leaders did not understand why jb and wazekwa supported fally while they should have united to block him(and ferre) to burst into the top top level
also outside music,fally was then dating anya star as one of his sidekicks while werra also so werra was using heritier a lot to diss fally,fight against him in nightclub and things like that, celeo was also sent but he refused to do that to his childhood friend along with sankara,but kakol accepted also and once got fally's tyres deflated while he got out of the car to go buy some food at a shop
then like you said the interview with claudy getting it to the level where musikasika and kakol roeasted fally to death and fally to show he is also a gangsta totally ignored werra at stade de france(even recently jb came to france for three days without people knowing to get money for a song with a donor and fally was there and fally acted like he did not know him,which lead to seguin saying indirectly in an interview some young artists think because they have made big success they can now mess with guys like jb but they will let him play until he gets his common sense back one day)
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Ooh so that’s why Ocean has a massive respect for Marie Paul. El Paris was overcrowded in all departements (guitars, animation, singers).
Lol what did Fally have with Werra’s dancers. Linda and then Anya. Was that real love or just to kick the frustation out of not being able to be with Koffi’s female dancers ? Wait... but was Anya then dating already Didi Kinuani on the same time ? Because in an interview Celeo made he said that Werrason gossiped to Didi that he was giving Anya to Fally. With Didi being furious and not talking roc Celeo anymore. So he sung Orthanasie for free ?
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yeah for free but it was not easy,guys like naty,fly nsangu and co had to talk to fally a lot to convince him because he was upset with the rumours about anya and didi and since he hesitated celeo lost three sessions it was meant to be a live rumba with seguin on drums basically and fally paid when he made his mind up,which is why fally boasts that he paid for celeo's studio but celeo is ungrateful
also he wanted to be cleared of the fact ferre would also participate on another song (egypto which mirage did instead) or not
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Egypto was also dedicated to Didi, so that’s 2 songs for lol. I remember that Egypto was the song he had to put in Temps Present. Did Celso invité Fally, because that Ferre refused ? Because I remember him attacking Ferre all the time back in 2008 and they apprently fought in South Africa two years later. Why did Ferre refuse ?
If Celeo had French papers in those days, then he would have made money with that album. Kiki Toure lied to him and made alot of money on his back. Him having Congolese papers blocked the promotion of Nzoto na Nzoto. He wasn’t even able to go to Brazzaville, because of admins of MM sending some fack infos about him to the immigration.
Didn’t Anya became a Didi’s official wife for a moment ? Before they posted her nude pictures.
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celeo wanted to get both ferre and fally since both were his friends but both did not want to be on same album(same thing happened in 13eme apotre)
he attacked ferre because he was pissed that because his stupid beef with fally he let down a very close friend,both know each other families they did not fight but they had a strong argument because after he did feat with fally he was hearing that ferre talked bad about him to his staff and he wanted to confront him
indeed unfortunately for celeo,maison mere's 12 was still in place,authorities were convinced not to give him a visa for years until he went when yes we can was about to be released thanks to mpova who got shouted at like a baby
yes anya became his wife after amida for some moment,but then she left from what i heard because of kindoki things which got her scared and also she still loved fally
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I think we’re all feeling more sympathetic to Celeo recently despite some of his antics. He was shafted from day 1 and if it weren’t for perseverance he would’ve lastef at all
Man, ya Ngiama...
@Manzambi, must be tough as a big Maison Mère fan but not a zealous fanatic
Yes, it is hard, basically all the members in Wenge except Fabro and some others wanted to stay forever but got forced out by evil administration to keep their illegal money...
It is disgusting, I mean how could Werra be this blind? Never ever hire your friends because you could have not the courage to fire them.
And for the MM fanatique hardcore fans they are too much sometimes especially those based near Werra's place, I remember when they were insulting Koko Bilali im the comments after he stated that Werra haven't paid him for Zenga Luketo, the comments were nasty amd I don't understand how people can be this mean to a Granny of 60 plus years over a singer
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Lol what did Fally have with Werra’s dancers. Linda and then Anya. Was that real love or just to kick the frustation out of not being able to be with Koffi’s female dancers ? Wait... but was Anya then dating already Didi Kinuani on the same time ? Because in an interview Celeo made he said that Werrason gossiped to Didi that he was giving Anya to Fally. With Didi being furious and not talking roc Celeo anymore. So he sung Orthanasie for free ?
what?
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About Werrason performing the same day on Fally’s Olympia. He did the same thing to Ferre in 2010. Ferre had then to perform at Zenith, but Werrason went then to perform the same in Rennes. The press critizised him for that.
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lol the part about agazul is so funny :D :D :D :D