Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on October 05, 2018, 07:11
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0m_LuFvngk
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Ahh What happened with this band? They really didn't last
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I heard Koffi broke them up?
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CNN killed the band by rejoining Quartier Latin some months after the release of Voodoo. I don’t know what the reason maybe he wasn’t sure about the future of the band or it could be a quarrel with Lebou Kabuya. I think that CNN wasn’t mature engough, which I can understand because he was 20 or 21 years old then . Years long I was confused about CNN’s situation by seeing him in Volte Face then in BCBG seeing in Voodoo then JB Mpiana mentioning his name in an interview with Francis Kakonde in 2003 and then seeing in Quartier Latin. But now after watching this video, I understand that CNN was first not believing in the adventure of Quartier Latin Integral with him leaving the band joining BCBG, but he returned quickly when recordlabel 1ere Classe decided to give them a contract because of the succes of Volte Face who h was like a test for them to sign them. Lebou Kabuya didn’t know what to do when CNN rejoined Quartier Latin. So when Koffi was in Paris to sign contracts for his second Zenith of ‘03 he went to talk to him and also rejoined a the band.
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Has anyone noticed how mirage and mon ami guelord have been in 3 groups together, QL integral, Generation A and QL and also how guelord started to interpret mirage's silvi vocals and concerts coincidence?
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In Ql hadn't the chance to be together, because when Guelord joined as Mineur his friend Mirage had already left QL in Europe. I think that they a had a common friend or vieux who was presented them to Lebou & Alain Mpela.
Mirage never explained clearly why he left Quartier Latin. 3 years ago he said that there was some war going on with two camps, the one of Ferre and the one of Fally on the other side. With him feeling threatened by a artist which made him leave QL and that artist influencing Koffi to delete his vocals.
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In Ql hadn't the chance to be together, because when Guelord joined as Mineur his friend Mirage had already left QL in Europe. I think that they a had a common friend or vieux who was presented them to Lebou & Alain Mpela.
Mirage never explained clearly why he left Quartier Latin. 3 years ago he said that there was some war going on with two camps, the one of Ferre and the one of Fally on the other side. With him feeling threatened by a artist which made him leave QL and that artist influencing Koffi to delete his vocals.
They participated some concerts together in late 2007 when QL did that mini Europe tour with koffi bringing montana, asso, jitrois, suzuki, guelord with them being rejoined by Gibson, junior, mirage, chikito, apocalypse, mboshi, and acide who were all in Europe.
Yeah mirage said that it was ferre's camp vs fally's where he was pretty much in ferre's because they joined the band roughly around the same time. I think it was soleil that unsettled mirage because he was against him joining and even said in that interview with ado last week that it felt like koffi brought in those guys to 12 the others for example ferre replacing fally, mirage replacing soleil, shella replacing gibson
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
Yeah and then Ferre messing Fally’s vocal up during Eternellement with the rest of Quartier Latin looking like wtf. Or Fally being furious of them being forced to sing 100 Kilo at Fikin saying then “ouais maboko pona chaire de poule, ouais maboko pona 100 kilo”.
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BB48R7hgA
The shade :D :D "ako kola une jour petit frere" ;D ;D
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In Ql hadn't the chance to be together, because when Guelord joined as Mineur his friend Mirage had already left QL in Europe. I think that they a had a common friend or vieux who was presented them to Lebou & Alain Mpela.
Mirage never explained clearly why he left Quartier Latin. 3 years ago he said that there was some war going on with two camps, the one of Ferre and the one of Fally on the other side. With him feeling threatened by a artist which made him leave QL and that artist influencing Koffi to delete his vocals.
They participated some concerts together in late 2007 when QL did that mini Europe tour with koffi bringing montana, asso, jitrois, suzuki, guelord with them being rejoined by Gibson, junior, mirage, chikito, apocalypse, mboshi, and acide who were all in Europe.
Yeah mirage said that it was ferre's camp vs fally's where he was pretty much in ferre's because they joined the band roughly around the same time. I think it was soleil that unsettled mirage because he was against him joining and even said in that interview with ado last week that it felt like koffi brought in those guys to 12 the others for example ferre replacing fally, mirage replacing soleil, shella replacing gibson
I forget about that. If Koffi hadn’t problems with the justice then I think that he would at some point stop with bringing musicians of Kinshasa to Europe and bring then only Cindy, one atalaku & Mbetenge with the rest of the musicians being those who are based in Europe.
I think Gipson choosing Ferre’s side for being a mpangi made Shella Mputu being close to Fally. I was surprise to not hear him sing on Droit Chemin. The same for Soleil Wanga, first I thought that he sung but later on I discovered that it was his cousin Dede Djascko (ex’ Patrouillles des Stars) singing on Droit Chemin. Which made me think that they some little wars going on between them in the Fally-camp. The unexcepted succes of Droit Chemin and Bouro rejoining QL made Koffi lose both artists.
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BB48R7hgA
The shade :D :D "ako kola une jour petit frere" ;D ;D
Listen to what Koffi said before giving the mic to Mirage. So the true reason of the beef with Werra was because of Mirage not Ferre ? I remember Mirage saying that he had to join Maison Mere, but that he choose for QL
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@mvulusi96
Whatever happened to Paty Bass after Quartier Latin Integral? He is such an underrated bassist, the reverb on his bassline were fantastic just like Rocky Blanchard's playing style from Koffi's V12.
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BB48R7hgA
The shade :D :D "ako kola une jour petit frere" ;D ;D
Listen to what Koffi said before giving the mic to Mirage. So the true reason of the beef with Werra was because of Mirage not Ferre ? I remember Mirage saying that he had to join Maison Mere, but that he choose for QL
its both lol you know maison mere once they missed out on mirage and later took miel who was their plan b they started attacking koffi a lot and it became worse when ferre joined i remember even once fally soleil and texas katadi were attacked straight after interview by angry maison mere fans
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@mvulusi96
Whatever happened to Paty Bass after Quartier Latin Integral? He is such an underrated bassist, the reverb on his bassline were fantastic just like Rocky Blanchard's playing style from Koffi's V12.
he still is in europe and doing some serious session work from artists of several countries,he is one the rare to have remained an artist without an extra job
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@mvulusi96
Whatever happened to Paty Bass after Quartier Latin Integral? He is such an underrated bassist, the reverb on his bassline were fantastic just like Rocky Blanchard's playing style from Koffi's V12.
he still is in europe and doing some serious session work from artists of several countries,he is one the rare to have remained an artist without an extra job
He lives in France. He does those standard jobs what most Congolese people do in Europe. It’s very rare to see him do some session work. He participated in Koffi’s Monde Arabe, Fally’s Arsenal des Belles Melodies,.. Back in 2005 he toured with Koffi in Europe with other former-QL members & Ferre. He participated to the Academia reunion-concert some months ago.
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@mvulusi96
Whatever happened to Paty Bass after Quartier Latin Integral? He is such an underrated bassist, the reverb on his bassline were fantastic just like Rocky Blanchard's playing style from Koffi's V12.
he still is in europe and doing some serious session work from artists of several countries,he is one the rare to have remained an artist without an extra job
Oh really thought that he slowed down like many others. Ramazani is also very active and has his own studio.
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lol i remember how scared soleil looked in that famous mirage appareance at grand hotel he felt the absolute need to keep commenting that mirage is a petit frere ,maboko pona petit frere :D :D :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BB48R7hgA
The shade :D :D "ako kola une jour petit frere" ;D ;D
Listen to what Koffi said before giving the mic to Mirage. So the true reason of the beef with Werra was because of Mirage not Ferre ? I remember Mirage saying that he had to join Maison Mere, but that he choose for QL
its both lol you know maison mere once they missed out on mirage and later took miel who was their plan b they started attacking koffi a lot and it became worse when ferre joined i remember even once fally soleil and texas katadi were attacked straight after interview by angry maison mere fans
Texas Katadi was like Assitou Mbo, Alain Nzambe, Zingeti le Rasback and many other former-Koffi staff members victim of attack from the fans of their rivals. Back in 2006 he was hit with a stone when Maison Mere-fans disturbed the concert after that Koffi said that Werrason whore fack Kassamoto-clothes.
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So guys pretty much when QL went for the danger de mort tour the band was pretty much unstable and disintegrating, you had shella then mirage and ferre joining and then mboshi, champion and modogo rejoining even mboshi said in his interview with ado that most musicians were against him, modogo and champion returning and ferre even stuck for mboshi in front of koffi and everyone and it was cause of Alya stepping in to tell koffi he can't let the musicians run his own band like that.
It's like the older musicians like fally, soleil, montana and co suspected 12 on them especially when koffi only took ferre for that mini Europe tour and recording silvi it was such a smart tactic of soleil to go to Europe without koffi knowing to represent the rest of QL which they planned and then fally went on tv to announce droit chemin
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So guys pretty much when QL went for the danger de mort tour the band was pretty much unstable and disintegrating, you had shella then mirage and ferre joining and then mboshi, champion and modogo rejoining even mboshi said in his interview with ado that most musicians were against him, modogo and champion returning and ferre even stuck for mboshi in front of koffi and everyone and it was cause of Alya stepping in to tell koffi he can't let the musicians run his own band like that.
It's like the older musicians like fally, soleil, montana and co suspected 12 on them especially when koffi only took ferre for that mini Europe tour and recording silvi it was such a smart tactic of soleil to go to Europe without koffi knowing to represent the rest of QL which they planned and then fally went on tv to announce droit chemin
I remember that the press said that there was a second Academia coming when Koffi was touring in Europe with them thinking that they would never tour in Europe again because of the ngulu-affaire. Fally said talked about that situation indirectly 2 years ago and said that he had then to calm his friends down. But he didn't want to go deeper, because he said that he would talk about that in a documentary about his career. Those concerts of Koffi without QL, already started earlier. Before Ferre joining QL he performed in London without them only with Champion and musicians who were living in London. They were just jealous of Ferre and scared that their time in QL came to end after complaining alot about money.
Before Koffi that came with Quartier Latin to Europe to perform at Palais des Congres they had difficulties to get visa's with then Steve Munsi bringing them through Sweden to the Schengen Area (the tour started there in Sweden and Ireland before coming in Paris). I was really dissapointed to not see Brigade with them. Brigade revealed that Koffi didn't want to take him to Europe, because he became very close to Fally and Koffi then thinking that they could form a new Academia with then the fight against Apocalyps in studio Ndiaye during the recording-sessions of Danger de Mort, making Koffi blacklist Brigade and leave him behind in Kinshasa. This while he had to animate in Fally's Droit Chemin
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@mvulusi96
As interesting as it would have been for another offshoot of Quartier Latin to begin, I think history has shown that 5eme generation artist can't maintain long-term group; Academia, Les Marquis, and Universal Zangul.
I was really surprised that Bouro Mpela and Soleil Wanga could never reach the commercial success that Fally Ipupa enjoyed when he went solo. What happened?
Bouro had such good will after that collab album with his brother, but he squander that momentum with bad promotion.
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@mvulusi96
As interesting as it would have been for another offshoot of Quartier Latin to begin, I think history has shown that 5eme generation artist can't maintain long-term group; Academia, Les Marquis, and Universal Zangul.
I was really surprised that Bouro Mpela and Soleil Wanga could never reach the commercial success that Fally Ipupa enjoyed when he went solo. What happened?
Bouro had such good will after that collab album with his brother, but he squander that momentum with bad promotion.
It has nothing to do with 5eme generations artists. All shoot-off bands in the Congolese music-scene don't last longer then 2 years. First one was African Fiesta formed by Dr Nico and Tabu Ley in 1963 which did only 2 years before splitting in 2 camps (African Fiesta Sukisa & African Fiesta National which would become Afrisa in 1970). In the 3th generation we had Isifi Lokole of Evoloko Lay, Papa Wemba, Bozi and Mavuela formed in 1974 after leaving Zaiko who did only 11 months with Papa Wemba forming with Bozi & Mavuela Yoka Lokole which only did 1 year. In 1977 we had Karawa Musica of Esperant Kisangani, Bipoli and Jadot Cambogien who only 6 months after leaving Papa Wemba. In 1981 Langa Langa Stars who did 2 years with Roxy Tshimpaka, Bozi Boziana and Ben Nyamabo creating Choc Stars. In 1982 Victoria Eleison of the 12 Apostles who did only 1 year and then the band becoming that of Emeneya. Victoria Principal of Bipoli and rest of Victoria who did 7 months. Choc Stars with Bozi Boziana leaving after 2 years to form Anti Choc, Zaiko Familia Dei in 1988, Wenge Aile Paris, Extra Musica International.... there are many examples.
Soleil Wanga was just unlucky to not have a good manager/producer like Fally Ipupa, while his first album was one of the most awaited albums in 2009. So when his album flopped it was also immediatly over for him. Bouro Mpela was a long time out of the spolights. He made the mistake to return to Quartier Latin when Ferre left Quartier Latin. He spent only 5 months or something like that and then left again. He was ready to sign with a big producer but someone send letters to that recordlabel (Koffi or Fally, I think Koffi) to not produce his album Vice de Procedure. So he strugelled months long to find a producer. Then he met 'Les Duo d Enfer' (Papy and Adrien Mukiadi) who accepted to produce his album. But his album was not well promoted and flopped very hard. Alot of people weren't even awaire about that album. After a project with former QL-members in 2009 he decided to settle himself in the USA. With him giving some concerts and playbacks there along with Jordan Kusa and sometimes with Alain Mpela. But not long after that he was victim of a big car-accident and almost died. Then he dissapeard for a long time and reappeared in 2011 again. With him then talking about his album Bokoko in Kinshasa and giving some extrats of a salsa-version of Calvaire. Two later he started a relationship with Binda Bass's ex girlfriend Leatitia Melody (Binda used to be his best friend. Congolese musicians are so weird lol) and decided to change his project in a duo-album. Then he dissapeared again for a long time until he decided to rejoin Quartier Latin again in 2015.
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Lol its seems they made peace i saw him in an interview give a big shout out to binda bass giving him some funny nicknames and he revealed that binda played most of his album and pathy some songs
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@mvulusi96
Wow, Bouro really had his fair share of personal struggles! Aside from Fally Ipupa and maybe Brigade Sarbati, is there anyone else from that generation of Quartier Latin that has a decent to strong solo career?
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People like to say only fally and brigade are successful QL graduates but I disagree sam tshintu/academia had a really good run that was ruined by the ngulu affaire and most of the former QL are in Europe as session artists
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@mvulusi96
Wow, Bouro really had his fair share of personal struggles! Aside from Fally Ipupa and maybe Brigade Sarbati, is there anyone else from that generation of Quartier Latin that has a decent to strong solo career?
Nobody only Ferre. Brigade had only succes with Affaire a Rando. Brigade is lucky to have joined Maison Mere, if he didn't join them, then he would be finished like CNN.
Back in the days youngsters didn't want to Quartier Latin and prefered Nouvelle Ecriture, Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere. Because people were then saying that if you join QL Koffi would use your power for in a mystical way for his fame and that you will be finished before even starting you solo-career with people always giving examples of Suzuki, Willy Bula,... Saying that he had a chambre with mirrors of all QL-members and he's controlling their lives. Back in the days musicians of Nouvelle Ecriture, BCBG and Maison Mere were mocking musicians of Quartier Latin for that. Saying in that they were already death. With also attacking also attacking Koffi saying that he would never be bigger then Papa Wemba. Because Wemba made big stars like Reddy Amisi, King Kester Emeneya, Esperant Kisangani,etc. while his former musicians are already finished. I remember that Sankara attacked Ferre that he would be finished like Suzuki and Sam Tshintu.
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People like to say only fally and brigade are successful QL graduates but I disagree sam tshintu/academia had a really good run that was ruined by the ngulu affaire and most of the former QL are in Europe as session artists
Academia did only 3 years or something like that. Not 15, 10 years being non-stop on the top. They started losing their way already when they released Viagra. With the album flopping Lebou, Pathy Bass and Suzuki leaving. People saying they were finished and death. But then being lucky with 4 Coins Kandala, then again losing their way until that they last with 3 persons in 2005 and Koffi asking them to rejoin with them all accepting, except Sam who was still holding a grudge against Koffi for everything he witnessed.
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@mvulusi96
Sukuzi and Willy Bula never had successful solo career because they lacked that major co-sign from that Reddy Amisi enjoyed from Wemba, Werrason from Koffi, ect.
Maybe if J.B. Mpiana did a feature on Sukuzi's debuting album like Wemba did on his solo, it could have bolstered interest into his project in addition to his appearance at Zenith of 1999.
What happened between Sam and Koffi that was so bad? I thought he left because he became overly ambitious for Koffi's liking.
I'm surprised people would rather work for Wemba and Werrason than Koffi! We can't even speak about Werrason's lack of ethics, but at least Wemba was genuine guy (inspite of his shortcomings).
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@mvulusi96
Sukuzi and Willy Bula never had successful solo career because they lacked that major co-sign from that Reddy Amisi enjoyed from Wemba, Werrason from Koffi, ect.
Maybe if J.B. Mpiana did a feature on Sukuzi's debuting album like Wemba did on his solo, it could have bolstered interest into his project in addition to his appearance at Zenith of 1999.
What happened between Sam and Koffi that was so bad? I thought he left because he became overly ambitious for Koffi's liking.
I'm surprised people would rather work for Wemba and Werrason than Koffi! We can't even speak about Werrason's lack of ethics, but at least Wemba was genuine guy (inspite of his shortcomings).
Werrason from Koffi ? Werrason didn't use to be a member of Quartier Latin. He came from Wenge 4x4 and had already made his name. Having hit songs like Coco Madima, Heritier Itele, Surprise Kapangala, Kaskin, Nicky D, Tcha Tcho, Kalayi Boeing and Sourire des Vendeurs on his name.
People were prefering Wemba & Werrason above Koffi, because you would then get more space to express yourself in Maison Mere, Nouvelle Ecriture and even Wenge BCBG. Listen to bandalbums like 'L, A La Une, Somo Trop and compare it to Pas de Faux Pas, Magie,.. You will see that singers of Nouvelle Ecriture had alot of space to express themselves and they mostly singing by their own. Papa Wemba didn't even sing in 'L, he sung only on Safari, a had a short vocal on Ba Yankee and did some mabanga's on Extra Large. But in the albums of Quartier Latin, Koffi was always singing the most. His singers had never the chance to sing a song by themselves. Before Academia, QL-members had only 2 songs in his solo album to put vocals on. This why people were critizing him alot. Which made him let Quartier Latin-singers sing alot in his solo-album Attentat and also later in Effrakata, but his style on bandalbums didn't change and people were still critizing him. Alot of people were scared to join Quartier Latin with those rumors of him using powers of his musicans for his fame.
Hahaha you don't know vieux Bokoul. He was never paying his musicians, only on rare occasions. That's why his band was also splitting (Nouvelle Generation, Nouvelle Ecriture, Langa Langa Stars, Victoria Eleison, Karawa Musica,....) with his members always being unhappy. Wemba was leaving his band sometimes for 6 months or 8 behind in Kinshasa with them giving concerts, but not receiving money because his staffmembers and his wife Amazone were sharing that money for themselves. Listen to the song Lidjo Kwempa made against him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tvvfrGNLs
Even if JB would then it would change nothing for Suzuki. He was already finished and nobody was taking him serious.
Like I said months ago. Sam Tshintu didn't want to leave Quartier Latin. He returned with Koffi to Africa and performed in Zimbabwe and Tanzania. He left because they warned him that they would be fired if they returned to Kinshasa. Being already informed that they recruited musicians in Kinshasa. Which made him leave Quartier Latin. Koffi did everything not let them succeed and many things happened behind the scenes. He didn't forget alot those things he witnessed all those years, that's why he didn't want to rejoin Quartier Latin. But the rest needed money, some were broke, other didn't want do to jobs and decided to rejoin the band. Suzuki swore in 1999 and also later in Academia that he would never in his life rejoin Quartier Latin, but in 2006 he accepted Koffi's offer.
Koffi don't also have good ethics. If you are a new members he will treat you well, but after 2 years he will show his true face. Ask Suzuki, Lola Muana about that in private. And if you touch one of his dancers, then it's finished for you. We all saw what happened with JF Ifonge, Ile de Cambodge, Willy Bula, CNN,.... All those bandleaders are all the same.
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@mvulusi96
Willy Bula and Cambodge got caught up with Koffi's dancers? Kiekiekie! I thought they got phased out by newer and "better" members like Mamale Tupac (who came in the fall of 1997) and Titina Al Capone (who came after the release of Effrakata).
What I meant by Werrason receiving a co-sign by Koffi was that Koffi gave moral and possibly financial support towards Werrason around the time that Wenge Musica 4X4 split (I believe Koffi got a shoutout at the end of Chantal Switzerland). This is similar to how Papa Wemba took J.B. Mpiana under his wing during his first solo album. In the video below; you will see Adolphe, Werrason, and Ferre Gola at the 3:18 minute mark and onward.
https://youtu.be/Z3l5WdvI1lI
By the way, did the other members of Masion Mere get along Quartier Latin? I suppose they couldn't be too friendly since it was serious competition back then...
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There many artists who were supporting Werrason in the beginning days of Maison Mere. Tshala Muana who made Werrason being close to politicians of ADFL, donors, etc. King Kester Emeneya, Tabu Ley (who was furious against JB for disrespecting him), Marie Paul (giving him tactis, like performing in often Tshangu and things about the mystical world), Defao, Ben Nyamabo (who was the owner of Samba Playa), Verckys Kiamuangana, Pepe Kalle (who even assisted to the recording sessions of Intervention Rapide)
Cambodge wasn’t caught with a dancer. It’s just that someone went to talk fake stories. Only because his friend drived his car trought Bibicia’s house which made the guy who informed Koffi think that they had an affaire. With Koffi punishing both by leaving them behind in Kinshasa when they went to Europe for Zenith and the recordings of Monde Arabe.
Mamale joined QL in 1996. That story of Willy Bula with a dancer was after Magie which made Koffi furious and left him behind when they had to record V12 in Europe. Willy Bula left because he saw that he wasn’t important anymore in QL. Koffi left him again behind in 1997 when they had to record Ultimatum & Loi. It has nothing to do with Mamale.
QL-members and Maison Mere hadn’t time for eachothers. There was a big rivalery about cars and girls which resulted often in fights.
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Interesting to see the group that initially had Werra's back. Did Ben Nyamabo sell Zamba Playa to Werra or how did the place change ownership? Apart from being Maison Mere's practice base, what else goes on there? Is it a pub or something like that?
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werra bought la zamba few years ago,outside his rehearsals and concerts and festivals,sometimes other groups especially traditional ones pay to perform there
but basically its a bar,so the bar became mixed with the rehearsal hall its no more like when 4X4 used to rehearse there,completely a bar except the days of concerts and rehearsal
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There many artists who were supporting Werrason in the beginning days of Maison Mere. Tshala Muana who made Werrason being close to politicians of ADFL, donors, etc. King Kester Emeneya, Tabu Ley (who was furious against JB for disrespecting him), Marie Paul (giving him tactis, like performing in often Tshangu and things about the mystical world), Defao, Ben Nyamabo (who was the owner of Samba Playa), Verckys Kiamuangana, Pepe Kalle (who even assisted to the recording sessions of Intervention Rapide)
Cambodge wasn’t caught with a dancer. It’s just that someone went to talk fake stories. Only because his friend drived his car trought Bibicia’s house which made the guy who informed Koffi think that they had an affaire. With Koffi punishing both by leaving them behind in Kinshasa when they went to Europe for Zenith and the recordings of Monde Arabe.
Mamale joined QL in 1996. That story of Willy Bula with a dancer was after Magie which made Koffi furious and left him behind when they had to record V12 in Europe. Willy Bula left because he saw that he wasn’t important anymore in QL. Koffi left him again behind in 1997 when they had to record Ultimatum & Loi. It has nothing to do with Mamale.
QL-members and Maison Mere hadn’t time for eachothers. There was a big rivalery about cars and girls which resulted often in fights.
Were QL and Maison Mère members used to have fight before the Koffi-Werra conflict of 2003 ? I remember a article from digitalcongo from September 2003 about a brawl which included Ferre,Bill,Baby Ndombe,Eliott against Fally,Jordan with a friend of Fally dissing Ferre in front of him then shegues started to beat Cambodge down, Celeo joining the scene and start screaming at Fally it was a big mess.
It seems like musicians from big groups used to have tendancies of gossiping about other groups and mocking those who didn't have the same opportunities like them (cars,trips,big halls,vocals ect)
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yeah for example at some point rio got his car destroyed by maison mere fans and the maison mere guys after tv round ups used to to taunt him a lot they'd make the engine as loud as possible and drive very slowly past him then stop and talk to him like he is 30 years older to mock him even more and ask if he wants them to drive him home since he has no more car( if hurt him so much that in the last bcbg trip before the ban he came with 3 cars at once)
or when the ban happened some musicians of latino and maison mere would stop at kibens house or whoever else and say they came politely to tell him they are off to europe so if he does not see them at tvs on sunday he should not be surprised and if he wants they can bring tissues from europe to wipe his tears as they'll never go to europe again,and with the most hot tempered like jdl it would end in a brawl finishing in the streets
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@mvulusi96
Did Vodoo have impact when it came out? Because CNN used some of the same animations on that album on Monde Arabe as well.
It's a shame things didn't work out, because Lebou and CNN barely got a boost rejoining QL again
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Voodoo was a big flop. Voodoo came out when in the same month when CNN rejoined Quartier Latin (He was so immature or maybe it was about leadership, money i don't. But it was weird because he abandoned Lebou for the second time). When both Lebou Kabuya and CNN left Quartier Latin again they recorded Salam Alekikum as single to restarted promoting Voodoo again releasing then also a VHS of those videoclips, but it didn't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e33lBWC9xk
CNN got a big boost when he rejoined Quartier Latin because alot had then forgot about him, the same for Lebou Kabuya. With Koffi then proudly saying on tv that all former QL-musicians are welcome to rejoin his band to get some fame.
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@mvulusi96
Maybe they should have released Volte Face as an album instead of an EP, because the generique was popular in West and Eastern Africa . They let too much time pass returning to Kinshasa to recruit new musicans, why didn't they tour with the Euro based artist that participated on the EP like Biva Ray, Spino La Djatence, and Hugues Soki?
They could return to Kinshasa to confirm the success of the album and add new members for a follow up album like Academia, but that's just my opinion.
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@mvulusi96
Maybe they should have released Volte Face as an album instead of an EP, because the generique was popular in West and Eastern Africa . They let too much time pass returning to Kinshasa to recruit new musicans, why didn't they tour with the Euro based artist that participated on the EP like Biva Ray, Spino La Djatence, and Hugues Soki?
They could return to Kinshasa to confirm the success of the album and add new members for a follow up album like Academia, but that's just my opinion.
Recording an album is alot of money. Ben-J wanted them first to record a single. The single was test for them to get a record-deal. They recorded they released in single in March 2002, but CNN hadn't alot of faith and decided to leave the band and joined Wenge BCBG. But with the time going and massive promotion on African compilation dvds, African and diaspora radios made the song being a succes and on some point being number 1 weeks long in the Radio Africa N1 topcharts (Kilimandjaro).
Lebou Kabuya recruited all musicians in Kinshasa by himself and did all promotion by himself in Kinshasa. When CNN saw that Wenge BCBG was struggling to come back in Europe he decided to re-join Quartier Latin Integral and went to join them in Kinshasa recording then in Dakar the Voodoo-album at Youssou Ndour's studio with Ben-J. Then Lebou Kabuya went back to Europe with Ben-J to do the mixing and working on visa's for the musicians, because they had to go to Europe, CNN then stayed in Kinshasa with the musicians (He hadn't Europe-papers to return back). But Lebou Kabuya stayed in Europe to long in CNN opinion and with the Wemba's ngulu affaire, he hadn't the faith anymore to come to Europe with the musicians. So he decided to rejoin Quartier Latin when they just returned from the Europe-tour. Which made Francis Salomo (aka Mirage Supersonic), Guelor, Chaleur, etc. being abandoned by their own.
Volte Face was more a nzong-nzing. Most musicians were members of other bands Biva Riva was member of Dakumuda's band (he ran away and then joined Cultura for some weeks in Europe), Spino La Djatence was a member of Wenge Tonya Tonya, etc. The Europe-based musicians of Quartier Latin Integral were just Lebou Kabuya, CNN and Pathy Bass.
I don't think Voodoo would be a succes if Quartier Latin Integral was still together. Because people coming Kinshasa don't give bands a chance if the leader is a instrumentist. Gode Lofombo is a good example.