Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Drumstar98 on November 16, 2018, 01:33
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Throughout the years I watched music videos when the sebene comes on the leader tends to walk away and let the dancers dance why?
https://youtu.be/4bW78Di6Adk
https://youtu.be/os8s1F8MVqc
https://youtu.be/AIVzfDQlKRM
https://youtu.be/y31sTko6yGs
https://youtu.be/b6akR1EXKAk
https://youtu.be/418dBJrnBFg
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It's likely a creative decison to work around their limitation, although there's exceptions:
Roga Roga in Trop C'est Trop
https://youtu.be/Lu282SdDQRc
Werrason
https://youtu.be/v5xiaJ7DTVQ
Defao
https://youtu.be/5MEHPcsEzGE
It just depends on the artist...
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Defao definitely walks away when the sebene is on there's clips like Lomas Manguene, Radio Troittor and Matience.
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Talking about clips an artist/band would release 12 songs on a album but why do release 7 clips.
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Aging issues
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Aging issues?
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Aging issues?
they are aging and cannot dance as much as the y used to
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True the ndombolo wouldn't match even they tried.
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Congolese songs are too long for them hehehe.
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Maybe they're too lazy.
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I wouldn't say lazy. With some leaders, fast-paced dancing isn't really their strong suit.
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True.
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I don't see it as a problem. Why had everything to be focused on them ?
I think that its a way to showcase the dance-talents of their musicians instead of focusing everything on themselves which is now the case with the musicians of G5. Even in concerts Werrason, Defao, Koffi Olomide, etc. would give their singers the time to show their danceskills which is rare nowadays (also a little bit because they make not make sebene-songs anymore). Don't forget that Koffi wasn't a good dancer. Before 1997 he used to dance well because those dances weren't really difficult and hadn't to use your hips alot or to jump like a Bouro Mpela. But look at Olympia at Olympia or other concerts after 1997 you see that couldn't dance well. But since 2015 he's giving everything and dances even better than Nyoka Longo lol. Apart of Arche de Noe you can see Koffi Olomide dance a little bit in Mea Culpa.
Madilu can't dance he made a big afford during his concert in Bata which surprised Werrason, Wazekwa, Nyoka Longo and the musicians of Extra Musica. They never saw Madilu dancing like that. Marie Paul isn't also a very big dancer. I remember Celezino dissing Adolphe Dominguez about that in Vita-Imana. Saying that Marie Paul is a big leader and that he's better in everything then Adolphe, apart the dance-section with him comparing Adolphe to Andele of Empire Bakuba lol hahahahaha. You had to see Marie Paul's Kiwanzenza in the Ko-Debout videoclip I couldn't with laughing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmrl43ZT7EU
from 8:40 min. Celezino had to be a comedian like Giani Fayi and Vue de Loin.
When I bought that dvd I was looking Celezino's everyday 4 times because it was so funny with him dissing Ferre, Gipson, Bill, Depitsho and Adolphe with him also advicing Nyoka Longo to fire all his musicians. "Mbala moko na beti cachet. Allez la-bas, dehors na Kisasa!!!! Mudebrouillez, debrouillez-vous votre vie la", "Yango Bill akendaki kosala ba ching-chang, soki ba samourais kuna" hahahahaha. It looks like Zobozi (RIP) was inspired with this video to say that Gipson and Roi Soleil are singing like Mpongo Love and Mbilia Bel. Because of the way Celezino was comparing Ferre to Mbilia Bel.
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Papa Wemba himself doesn't know how to dance and everybody knows that. Koffi Olomide used to mock him back in the days in those old polemique-videos with him saying that he was only shaking his arms. The only concert where I saw him doing some effort was his Zenith of 2000 with Nouvelle Ecriture. With him saying on Fula Ngenge and Elongi Ya Jesus and never saw him dancing like that again or before. Except those rare videos of the 70s, but those days they used to dance very differently then now.
JB Mpiana invited Papa Wemba & Nouvelle Ecriture as guests to perform with him at his presatation-concert of Feux de L'Amour at Intercontinental (Pullman Kinshasa Grand Hotel) and when they the sebene started of Cavalier Solitaire he was doing nothing hahahah while JB Mpiana and Aimelia dancing very hard. Or maybe it was "charisme, jamais sapeur akoki kobina ndombolo yaba likaku. Eko sopa yo pe oko toka". Wemba also didn't like that stuff of atalaku's with him keeping minimisize them in interviews even when he recruited Alpatshino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFcuHjgqH_w
from 4:50 min
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the other explanation which is as simple as "ridiculous" is that when they do not dance they can truly "feel their leadership" with their "freedom" on stage to move where they want when they want chat with people take rest behind the drummer
and they tend to think that when you are the leader you have to make less dancing effort to keep your swag
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Papa Wemba himself doesn't know how to dance and everybody knows that. Koffi Olomide used to mock him back in the days in those old polemique-videos with him saying that he was only shaking his arms. The only concert where I saw him doing some effort was his Zenith of 2000 with Nouvelle Ecriture. With him saying on Fula Ngenge and Elongi Ya Jesus and never saw him dancing like that again or before. Except those rare videos of the 70s, but those days they used to dance very differently then now.
JB Mpiana invited Papa Wemba & Nouvelle Ecriture as guests to perform with him at his presatation-concert of Feux de L'Amour at Intercontinental (Pullman Kinshasa Grand Hotel) and when they the sebene started of Cavalier Solitaire he was doing nothing hahahah while JB Mpiana and Aimelia dancing very hard. Or maybe it was "charisme, jamais sapeur akoki kobina ndombolo yaba likaku. Eko sopa yo pe oko toka". Wemba also didn't like that stuff of atalaku's with him keeping minimisize them in interviews even when he recruited Alpatshino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFcuHjgqH_w
from 4:50 min
Papa Wemba looked awkward he could've walked off he looked lost.