Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on March 23, 2019, 22:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-yrXSwobu8
The way musicians of G5 (Ferre, Fally, Lacoste, Celeo, JDT, Bill, Soleil, etc.) were thinking that they would do better than Werrason, JB Mpiana and Koffi Olomide, when the G5 Revolution just started.
I used to like the animation from 3:21 min, Celeo was animating it sometimes in concerts back in 2006 and 2007 in Maison Mere. I was surprised when I heard Brigade animating it in Temps Present. I wonder how his song Egypto would have been in Maison Mere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RHYyV-TAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kdc1GZrBF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX-ND6Ab4zY
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yeah a little bit,indeed some of them were too sure that it was over for the older guys which is why for example jb responded " lisolo ya 2030,ou l'eau la va emmener caillou on est la"
credit to celeo though for making seguin playing like that on his best level
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@mvulusi96
How come Celeo Scram didn't become as successful as a solo artist as Fally and Ferre? He was the top atalaku when he left Maison Mere and he had big name talent assist for his first album (Fally, Seguin, & I believe Gode played bass for the album).
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first thing which blocked celeo's rise is that he was unable to promote his work in europe because he was denied visas on influence of....then he started having personal problems and sponsors letting him down under pressure, so he had to sell a lot of things to fund another album and from then he was turned into a topic of mockery,mockery is something very difficult to turn around these days in our music,as soon as a stereotype of your bad situation is stuck in people's minds its very hard to change it no matter what you do
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first thing which blocked celeo's rise is that he was unable to promote his work in europe because he was denied visas on influence of....then he started having personal problems and sponsors letting him down under pressure, so he had to sell a lot of things to fund another album and from then he was turned into a topic of mockery,mockery is something very difficult to turn around these days in our music,as soon as a stereotype of your bad situation is stuck in people's minds its very hard to change it no matter what you do
Yeah but Celeo doesn't help himself on that matter cause he usually makes a fool of himself when he does his rants on the internet or interviews lol, but I did think and hoped that Celeo would have a great solo career and a huge run it's just unfortunate that Maison Mere are asses.
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first thing which blocked celeo's rise is that he was unable to promote his work in europe because he was denied visas on influence of....then he started having personal problems and sponsors letting him down under pressure, so he had to sell a lot of things to fund another album and from then he was turned into a topic of mockery,mockery is something very difficult to turn around these days in our music,as soon as a stereotype of your bad situation is stuck in people's minds its very hard to change it no matter what you do
But wasn't he a millionaire like Bill?
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first thing which blocked celeo's rise is that he was unable to promote his work in europe because he was denied visas on influence of....then he started having personal problems and sponsors letting him down under pressure, so he had to sell a lot of things to fund another album and from then he was turned into a topic of mockery,mockery is something very difficult to turn around these days in our music,as soon as a stereotype of your bad situation is stuck in people's minds its very hard to change it no matter what you do
But wasn't he a millionaire like Bill?
no,and bill's wealth came way after maison mere,with him remaining the one and only skol star on automatic renewed contract every year
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first thing which blocked celeo's rise is that he was unable to promote his work in europe because he was denied visas on influence of....then he started having personal problems and sponsors letting him down under pressure, so he had to sell a lot of things to fund another album and from then he was turned into a topic of mockery,mockery is something very difficult to turn around these days in our music,as soon as a stereotype of your bad situation is stuck in people's minds its very hard to change it no matter what you do
Yeah, Celeo could have been far in his solo-career if he had European papers. He was close to all those guys who were doing Coupe Decale and those Congolese singers and rappers who were born here and having succes in France & Belgium. He could have take alot of profit from it, more than Fally who became close to them because of David Monsoh.
Alot of people felt sorry for Celeo, for the way he was forced out the band with alot of bandleaders, collegues of G5 and journalists (Yves Abdallah, Mamy Ilela, etc.) supporting his solo-career. But it changed quickly changed when he became broke 2009-10 and it became worser when his conflict started with Fally Ipupa, Sankara Dekunta and Bil Clinton who claimed that his children were handicapped which isn't even true, but people believing it. With Celeo more becoming a polemique-guy because of responding them, instead of putting his energy on his solo a career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Wh0CS8z0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0JNrhc2e9Y
Nzoto na Nzoto was a huge succes and they were inviting him for big festivals and events in Europe, but everytime they were refusing to give him visas. He wasn't even able to go to Brazzaville,where he was inviting for a big event organised by Claudia Sassou. His producer Kiki Toure made alot of money with that album, but Celeo didn't knew his rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9Fmte_nuA
After a year, he started slowly to sell his cars, clothes, etc. and people started to mock him, claiming that he became broke and Maison Mere taking advangtage of it to attack him (Heritier, Sankara & Kakol). Then in 2010, he had a chance to get French papers, when he came to mix Yes We Can in France. (He came with help from his ex'manager Mpova Music who was then close to Kabila). But he refused, saying that he couldn't betray his country and he was eager to prove Maison Mere, Bill Clinton, etc. a point.Thinking that Yes We Can would be a succes like Nzoto Na Nzoto. In meantime guys like Jessy Matador (who used to be his fan) were inviting to their concerts and Les Jumo went to collaborate with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ETSQOgV6w
Then when he returned his sitituation became more worser, a conflict started between him and Koffi Olomide, He felt out with Mpova Music (who weren't promoting his album well), Fally's staff and Maison Mere spreading false stories, that he was sleeping in a restaurant and stuff like that.
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@archos
How come Bill Clinton never toured in Europe? He had some great records after going solo and a sponsorship from Skol. The fact that he is not as big as Fally Ipupa and Ferre really surprises me, given his impact as an atalaku and the impressive work he did outside animation with his songs for Les Marquis de Masion Mere.
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@mvulusi96
Do you think Celeo can bring the fans and journalist to his side again like he had in 2007 or is it too late? I remember people enjoying the album, despite him being a limited singer.
But given today's climate of Congolese music, I think he would have a very difficult time. He doesn't seem as commited to music as Fally and the others, who travel to tour and promote their music.
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and also they said his house had become like a prostitution house you pay 1000 congolese francs and you have 1 hour all those things are the reason why he rants and tries to rub it in their face when he started to get thing back on track
he is currently working hard on another self funded album to be out around june july
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@archos
How come Bill Clinton never toured in Europe? He had some great records after going solo and a sponsorship from Skol. The fact that he is not as big as Fally Ipupa and Ferre really surprises me, given his impact as an atalaku and the impressive work he did outside animation with his songs for Les Marquis de Masion Mere.
Because his succes was only local (DR Congo, Angola, Congo Brazzaville) it was not going outside. If you ask people in the Congolese diaspora about generiques he made after his departure from Les Marquis, they will say no. Only those who are/were going often to DR Congo each year would say yes. All his solo albums flopped, it were only generiques of SKOL who were having succes and members of Wenge Maison Mere (Prince, Sankara & Kakol) were mocking him for that on tv and that he was always drunk if he wanted to get money from his sponsor (akomi musicien yaba publicite, pe avant azua mbongo il faut akoma na kwiti, etc.). His concert at FIKIN and areas like Masina, Bandalungwa, etc (2005-2010) had always big crowds. That's why I was wondering if he would be able to fill Bataclan back in 2007, because he was making alot of noise about it. But that event got cancelled. Then he performed at Mangrove (a little bar/restaurant in Paris) with his little brother Kilimandjaro and some musicians based in Paris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3eddsh8GRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmNEuE-6n8