Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on June 15, 2019, 19:20
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Hehehehe musical chairs
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IF this is true it can be a blessing in disguise somehow,the amount of hate heritier received for having taken so much proven musicians in his group was unreal, guys like ken mpiana will surely make money to feed themselves for 3 years over that topic, i saw already him announcing a video,a lot of people are overjoyed from the comments i see here and there
arnake was quite enigmatic in his last video he was interviewed and started saying several times something is underway and maybe it will be in heritier's next album or... the typical language of a musician who has one foot and half outside already
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It’s not true, this is just a buzz strategy
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It’s not true, this is just a buzz strategy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBTMAaeJ6s
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Wow I feel bad for Heritier that's Padache, Ambulance, the mbonda player (forgot his name) and my dude Koba. What could be the reason to leave? The new album hasn't even been official announced yet.
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IF this is true it can be a blessing in disguise somehow,the amount of hate heritier received for having taken so much proven musicians in his group was unreal,
People should mind their own business, who cares if Heritier had experienced guys in his group. I would rather have experienced guys then having a team full of rookies, that way you can start business faster then usual, those are grown men and women if they want to go to someone's band then they have the right too. They need to stop with the oh leader X took leader y's artist, no the grown adult made the decision to leave.
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Wow I feel bad for Heritier that's Padache, Ambulance, the mbonda player (forgot his name) and my dude Koba. What could be the reason to leave? The new album hasn't even been official announced yet.
Padache?.... Quite unreliable ...i would not be shocked if he tries to return to BCBG or QL
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It’s not true, this is just a buzz strategy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBTMAaeJ6s
Wow...The way Charly was big on Heritier and talked all that witchcraft bull when the group started but look now. Ain’t heard from Bercy yet, i bet he’s planning a return somewhere lol
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Whats the info on why these guys have suddenly left group? Haven't had the chance to follow the happenings.
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lol padache is the heir of mbokaliya in terms of being unstable, the man has done in his life wenge bcbg,quartier latin,maison mere,cultura,tried to join fally's group when fally almost fired zagalo because he was still talking to celeo when he had ordered everybody to ignore him,team wata and even in team wata he had gone missing a little bit to try joining ferre's group,then a return to bcbg which jb refused and now he has left team wata again,but i respect how he did not want to talk too much about his childhood friend heritier,some people would forget all that and rant like mad
from what i am hearing from my inside sources,a good part of the problem is heritier having lost a lot of money in casino again( he has some kind of addiction i think because he has been losing 10 to 20k minimum every year but he just does not stop,just like his pire vieux nsone)and he could not pay the musicians for a while also given they have had less concerts due to studio,and to add insult to injury he had been very rude to musicians following his loss because it made him super super nervous and he did not hesitate to roast some of them in front of people at rehearsals
but i wont be surprised if it can be solved,a lot of the team wata donors had taken a step back in the last months for whatever reason and now they are "waking up" with that situation and approaching musicians to convince them( heritier had copied the system jb is creating in bcbg with donors uniteing to pay musicians' salary of bonus in case of difficulty with concert incomes),i saw daddy mola who was meant to have gone with them say koba is back and he believes most will soon return
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lol padache is the heir of mbokaliya in terms of being unstable, the man has done in his life wenge bcbg,quartier latin,maison mere,cultura,tried to join fally's group when fally almost fired zagalo because he was still talking to celeo when he had ordered everybody to ignore him,team wata and even in team wata he had gone missing a little bit to try joining ferre's group,then a return to bcbg which jb refused and now he has left team wata again,but i respect how he did not want to talk too much about his childhood friend heritier,some people would forget all that and rant like mad
from what i am hearing from my inside sources,a good part of the problem is heritier having lost a lot of money in casino again( he has some kind of addiction i think because he has been losing 10 to 20k minimum every year but he just does not stop,just like his pire vieux nsone)and he could not pay the musicians for a while also given they have had less concerts due to studio,and to add insult to injury he had been very rude to musicians following his loss because it made him super super nervous and he did not hesitate to roast some of them in front of people at rehearsals
but i wont be surprised if it can be solved,a lot of the team wata donors had taken a step back in the last months for whatever reason and now they are "waking up" with that situation and approaching musicians to convince them( heritier had copied the system jb is creating in bcbg with donors uniteing to pay musicians' salary of bonus in case of difficulty with concert incomes),i saw daddy mola who was meant to have gone with them say koba is back and he believes most will soon return
So Heritier is in to gambling. No wonder he likes to identify himself with Mafia tags such as "Cosa Nostra". Lol
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Gambling is costly... Hoping for the best
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lol padache is the heir of mbokaliya in terms of being unstable, the man has done in his life wenge bcbg,quartier latin,maison mere,cultura,tried to join fally's group when fally almost fired zagalo because he was still talking to celeo when he had ordered everybody to ignore him,team wata and even in team wata he had gone missing a little bit to try joining ferre's group,then a return to bcbg which jb refused and now he has left team wata again,but i respect how he did not want to talk too much about his childhood friend heritier,some people would forget all that and rant like mad
from what i am hearing from my inside sources,a good part of the problem is heritier having lost a lot of money in casino again( he has some kind of addiction i think because he has been losing 10 to 20k minimum every year but he just does not stop,just like his pire vieux nsone)and he could not pay the musicians for a while also given they have had less concerts due to studio,and to add insult to injury he had been very rude to musicians following his loss because it made him super super nervous and he did not hesitate to roast some of them in front of people at rehearsals
but i wont be surprised if it can be solved,a lot of the team wata donors had taken a step back in the last months for whatever reason and now they are "waking up" with that situation and approaching musicians to convince them( heritier had copied the system jb is creating in bcbg with donors uniteing to pay musicians' salary of bonus in case of difficulty with concert incomes),i saw daddy mola who was meant to have gone with them say koba is back and he believes most will soon return
I hope he doesn't end up like Adjani addiction with drugs, Heritièr needs to stop, not only for the group but for himself. Only God knows how many wealthy people have lost their entire fortune playing at casinos and so on.
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I am hearing that there is a donor behind this who promised to every of them 5K each and car to live and hurt heritier and that some like koba were not aware of the plan and mpaka called him to rehearse and that he thought it was for example those separate rehearsals leaders can decided on a normal day to prepare a generique or a rumba they have high hopes on and to his surprise its after their rehearsal that he got explained the plan and is trying to ask for forgiveness to wata to rejoin
for whatever reason from last year deep down i was foreseeing something like that to happen,either from one of the rivals or somebody else or the musicians themselves going on rebellion there is too much ego within the group for a young group IMO
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ambulance's upset comes from the fact when he joined he asked for a car as he had sold his maison mere one to solve some issues,and he got one car through a donor at some point but he was not satisfied since them musicians feel the need to change cars every 6 months or year and the car heritier accepted to offer him took a while to come because heritier wanted to avoid jealousy in the group like somebody who barely contributed yet in the group would come and get a car straight away so his plan was to make ambulance be well accepted and installed in the group and then offer him the car at the release of his second album along with some other musicians to create some sort of event and he lost patience because he found that his car was matching his level and that for what he did in team wata he deserved a 20K car at least(musicians of the recent generations tend to overestimate their contribution and hype themselves too quickly)
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Héritier has just started a solo career, does he really have the means to offer cars and gifts to all his musicians ? The donors of the big group like QL, bcbg, maison mère, team wata receive what in return ? Because they provide a lot of financial, material and other means to musicians but apart from mabanga do they receive something?
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@Congolitude
To my knowledge, most donors are either businessman who use mabangas to promote their business or give money for the sake of vanity (Didi Kinuani & Adam Bonbole). While some are statesmen and socialites (the Sassou family) and others are either fans or friends to these musicans
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ambulance's upset comes from the fact when he joined he asked for a car as he had sold his maison mere one to solve some issues,and he got one car through a donor at some point but he was not satisfied since them musicians feel the need to change cars every 6 months or year and the car heritier accepted to offer him took a while to come because heritier wanted to avoid jealousy in the group like somebody who barely contributed yet in the group would come and get a car straight away so his plan was to make ambulance be well accepted and installed in the group and then offer him the car at the release of his second album along with some other musicians to create some sort of event and he lost patience because he found that his car was matching his level and that for what he did in team wata he deserved a 20K car at least(musicians of the recent generations tend to overestimate their contribution and hype themselves too quickly)
I think they will end up like the Marquis Des Maison Mere but I am not sure who of them will have a successful career.
Kunzardo is confused, Ambulance is really ungrateful and he must know that Heritier might turn donors against him , and for Arnake he is identical to Ferre in his singing, so I don't know how he will develop a good solo career being the copycat of his ex-boss.
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This is no big deal. Musicians will always leave no matter what you do or don't do for them. I'm sure there's plenty others who are queuing to join Watta.