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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Cavalier Solitaire on July 30, 2019, 12:37

Title: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on July 30, 2019, 12:37
I havent watched the intwerview in full but like title suggests that he is no longer touring with the rest of the group in the ongoing USA tour.
https://youtu.be/0HyxQjRQqOI
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: archos on July 30, 2019, 15:16
without watching,i saw its congopromo,FAKE already
dont give jdog false joy bro :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 30, 2019, 15:29
Hahaha incoming Jdog
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 30, 2019, 15:35
But In all seriousness I’m hearing guys from F’Victeam are planning a rebellion. Majority of the musicians are looking to stay in US or europe after the Bercy concert.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: archos on July 30, 2019, 15:43
 could be possible also hearing it,fally gotta give them some money or make those who he gave songs to do their clips in states or things like that to appease,because if the guys are still on 100 dollars per concert  while he gets 30K minimum,like papa wemba would say "na poto nde mayele ya musicien elamukaka quoi " :D :D :D
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 30, 2019, 19:15
I hope it happens it’ll be a blessing in disguise, These guys have become big liabilities and the president doesn’t even see it.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on July 30, 2019, 20:48
Lol. Clickbait got me there. I'd be surprised if Atele of all people were to leave. @Archos you mean everyone gets $100 including the Chef Du Groupe? Jeez these guys can make the most stingy employer look very generous.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on July 30, 2019, 20:55
Atele thinks he’s soo cool lol....my man looking like that one uncle who likes to hit on young girl...creepy
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: archos on July 30, 2019, 21:04
Lol. Clickbait got me there. I'd be surprised if Atele of all people were to leave. @Archos you mean everyone gets $100 including the Chef Du Groupe? Jeez these guys can make the most stingy employer look very generous.

 most of the group 100 and his "group of vieux" willy zola,djino,atele,kalombo,maitre madova,tyson  between 150 and 300 in a very happy day
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Jdog on July 30, 2019, 22:07
SMH watch the interview and then post, almost made me happy for no reason. I really want him, Kalombo, Cousteau and Junior gone, Felly Tyson needs to go as well he's way past it, the new soloist Golet can go too. Fally can't take that team to Bercy, he's gonna need to either bring others who were left in Kin or have a lot of guests because his current lineup won't cut it for Bercy. 
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Jdog on July 30, 2019, 22:15
@CM If they are planning to leave, then tht's good, good riddance most of them are useless. And if they stay behind it may cause visa problems for Fally in the future, are they going to make an offshoot group or go into retirement from music (like they should've been in the first place)  because the offshoot group is their best shot, no one wants to hear a full Atele or Kalombo project ba faux artiste moko boye.

@Archos Fally really is stingy, how can he get 30k and only give 100, how are people supposed to live off of that? He's lucky that they haven't left him already. Doing a video in the U.S. isn't going to do it, I would've would've wanted the money not some video, that's what is going to feed your family.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Matebu on July 30, 2019, 22:21
Honestly, with how cheap “Le King” is we can easily fund a mass F’Victeam exodus buy pooling together not much cash.

 That being said; it’ll be a blow for Fally because he has not proven he has good recruiting skills at all like Koffi or Werra, so need to be careful what we wish for. It could be worse where he turns into a playback artist
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: SLK97 on July 30, 2019, 22:35
But In all seriousness I’m hearing guys from F’Victeam are planning a rebellion. Majority of the musicians are looking to stay in US or europe after the Bercy concert.

So we could see another Academia or Les Marquis then? That is, if they still have the passion for music after leaving.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Wenge1995 on July 30, 2019, 22:39
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Matebu on July 30, 2019, 22:41
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...

Bro, that’s what seeing him live with this team does to you. He and his team have less than one hour of solid material and energy - At this rate Bercy will be another waste of a prestigious venue and people’s hard earned money
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 30, 2019, 22:52
last year Fally's musicians were arguing about them struggling and Fally being months long in France buying new houses, cars, rolex-watches and posting it on Instagram.

Life is now very hard and expensive in Kinshasa. Many musicians are living with their parents and you alot are having relationships with those old "maman malewa ya coin" just to have a meal for free and some nkoy-bottles to drink.

It will turn in Fally's favor if his musicians decide to ran away in the US, he can then start to do a proper recruiment. The most musicians he recruited back in 2006 and 2007 are his childfriends and he recruited them not as goal to compete against Maison Mere, Quartier Latin, etc. , but as compassion since that they were rejected in big bands, didn't break through as star, etc. with Fally then wanting to them a second chance and help him in concerts, not knowing that he would release more succesful albums in the future and perform at Zenith and Olympia.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: SLK97 on July 30, 2019, 23:00
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...

The show at the Apollo happened. That's when we realised that if Atele and co. stay, it would become the least exciting Bercy concert from a Congolese artist.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 30, 2019, 23:24
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...

Bro, that’s what seeing him live with this team does to you. He and his team have less than one hour of solid material and energy - At this rate Bercy will be another waste of a prestigious venue and people’s hard earned money
You are not allowed to speak because you never gave us Fallys answers to our questions  ;D :D kiekie come on be honest did you even see him?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Manzambi94 on July 30, 2019, 23:34
could be possible also hearing it,fally gotta give them some money or make those who he gave songs to do their clips in states or things like that to appease,because if the guys are still on 100 dollars per concert  while he gets 30K minimum,like papa wemba would say "na poto nde mayele ya musicien elamukaka quoi " :D :D :D
I feel bad for those guys. They want to go put but at the same time. If they go out what they will do? They have no bizz, no fan waiting for them and are stuck imto that positiom
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Matebu on July 31, 2019, 01:27
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...

Bro, that’s what seeing him live with this team does to you. He and his team have less than one hour of solid material and energy - At this rate Bercy will be another waste of a prestigious venue and people’s hard earned money
You are not allowed to speak because you never gave us Fallys answers to our questions  ;D :D kiekie come on be honest did you even see him?  ;D ;D ;D

Kiekie, palado masta - I know I owe y’all. I’ll get around to the thread. I got 3 questions in and got very generic responses then he bumrushed everyone backstage, so wasn’t able to go full Popol Mupasula

I set a very difficult goal of making the thread worth a read
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Wenge1995 on July 31, 2019, 01:43
@Matebu

He used to put on fantasic shows, what happened? Did he change management or something? You'd think with him signing to a major label that it would up his standards, but I guess not.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 31, 2019, 02:00
What happened? All of you guys sounded so excited for Bercy a couple weeks ago lmao

So it seems like Fally might be in a similar situation Kester was in when he was peparing for Zenith of 2001, with the core members leaving...

Bro, that’s what seeing him live with this team does to you. He and his team have less than one hour of solid material and energy - At this rate Bercy will be another waste of a prestigious venue and people’s hard earned money
You are not allowed to speak because you never gave us Fallys answers to our questions  ;D :D kiekie come on be honest did you even see him?  ;D ;D ;D

Kiekie, palado masta - I know I owe y’all. I’ll get around to the thread. I got 3 questions in and got very generic responses then he bumrushed everyone backstage, so wasn’t able to go full Popol Mupasula

I set a very difficult goal of making the thread worth a read
Hahaha just post it my man who cares how many questions you got in Kiekie
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 31, 2019, 02:04
Honestly, Fally my never convinced with his live-shows since he started his solo career in 2006. He convinced me only for one time back in 2015 when he performed live for Canal+ in Kinshasa at Theatre de Verdure.

Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Matebu on July 31, 2019, 02:41
Honestly, Fally my never convinced with his live-shows since he started his solo career in 2006. He convinced me only for one time back in 2015 when he performed live for Canal+ in Kinshasa at Theatre de Verdure.

For me his best concerts are his first Zenith, Olympia (even though it was disorganized), and this F’Victeam concert. Aside from that can’t think of much else

I’m happy and mad watching this because this was the extremely quick peak of his band
 https://youtu.be/qHo60gH_vdk
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 31, 2019, 02:45
Honestly, Fally my never convinced with his live-shows since he started his solo career in 2006. He convinced me only for one time back in 2015 when he performed live for Canal+ in Kinshasa at Theatre de Verdure.

For me his best concerts are his Zenith, Olympia (even though it was disorganized), and this F’Victeam concert.

I’m happy and mad watching this because this was the extremely quick peak of his band
 https://youtu.be/qHo60gH_vdk
Damnnn F’victeam was on fire at that point 2015 during Libres Parcours era for me those are his best concerts too, before he got seduced with the world music career
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on July 31, 2019, 03:04
Aah ngai eh. "Group of Vieux" still only $200 difference with the rest is laughable. And this inner group are his childhood friends who by all means should have been better remunerated. No wonder the story changes immediately they leave with most saying bad stuff about their ex Patron. Lol.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: mvulusi96 on July 31, 2019, 03:51
He had to continue on that line of 2015 with more sebenes instead of performing those boring Tokooos songs.

I didn’t like Zenith 2010. Fally came 3h to late and messed all his songs up with to much mabanga and to much  people coming on stage. He was lucky that Mokobe, Apocalyps, Krys and Olivia came sinon mawa trop, they kind of saved his show. Droit Chemin which was the only sebene performed that night  was messed up by Equalizer. But somehow Fally managed to let the Congolese and African press act that it was a good show with only those skyrock-pages telling the truth and journalists like Marc Tabu confronting him with that.

At Olympia he made a 2h pause in the middle of the show and I felt like they didn’t took the time to prepare the show. But the dvd gave another impression because of them cutting alot parts out.

Once I went to a Kinshasa-show of him and it was sooooooo boring. I almost cried, because it was like I threw my 100 dollars away. I could have given to ba shegue of 10-12 years old who I saw  sleeping in the streets of Bandal or spending it at Metro-bar instead of going to Fally’s show.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: archos on July 31, 2019, 03:52
lol the trick fally and many leaders use is that they pay in congolese francs to make it look a lot while its worth just one dollar bill or two max
i think fally also like that team he started with in order to stay the only absolute star miles ahead of the rest,not saying any other group member could challenge him or what but he clearly targetted being a proper solo artist unlike his former boss and his mentors of wenge
(although jb has also become quite self centered)
i remember back when musicians started to ask for an album like i explained in a topic called "the story behind libre parcours" he openly said in interview that when  calling alvarito and received calls from other friends to work with him he made it super clear that it was his career and they just are there to do chorus because he cant sing alone
you'll notice from the moment any person caught some stardom in his group their days were numbered,not that he is jealous of them or what,but its like instinctively the group rejects those guys like seas or oceans reject undesirable objects( equaliseur,kanza,alvarito,kabuya who only is saved by nana and how fans love him)
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Wenge1995 on July 31, 2019, 05:06
@archos

What will it take for Fally Ipupa to up his game? Because eveb if he loses his band, he'll replace them with new guys and it's no certainty that they'll inspire him to give better concerts.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: archos on July 31, 2019, 05:24
@archos

What will it take for Fally Ipupa to up his game? Because eveb if he loses his band, he'll replace them with new guys and it's no certainty that they'll inspire him to give better concerts.

the problem is that fally is in a position now which is that the fact that he takes a bath dresses and goes to concert hall is already a granted success in his eyes and in the eyes of most of his fans,he is no longer under any sort of pressure,even the fact that bercy was widely reported to be sold out wayyyyyyyyy before i fear that i might keep him in that mood of i just have to perform crowd is already crazy anyway
and departures will certainly not put him under pressure since his career is himself,hopefully he is like some top artists do create some self pressure to deliver in bercy,i have already heard some stars  say they'd almost insult themselves,belittle themselves and so on in order to feel under pressure and give all
by the way i have feeling robinio and a couple of his dancers will be among guests and might bring a spark to the show
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Wenge1995 on July 31, 2019, 06:31
@Manzambi94

I can't stress this enough, America is NOT like Europe! Those guys in Fally's band will find tough conditions waiting for them if they stay here without papers. As we speak, Trump's immigration representitive Ken Cuccinelli said their already set to execute a plan to find, detain, and ultimately deport at least one million migrant. Even having children with a citizen will not provide long-term protection, because Trump wants to repeal birthright citizenship which will make those kids and their fathers subject to deportation.

My heart breaks for them, because I'm sure Fally will pressure them to leave once they return to Kinshasa.
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Wenge1995 on July 31, 2019, 06:52
@archos

If the first day of Bercy goes like his performances in USA, maybe the Congolese press will roast him and it'll wake him up. Unless he'll bribe them to lie. So basically you're saying that Bercy is a lost cause?
Title: Re: HOW TRUE IS IT THAT ATELE KUNIANGA IS NO LONGER WITH FALLY'S GROUP?
Post by: Congolitude on July 31, 2019, 08:43
Honestly, Fally my never convinced with his live-shows since he started his solo career in 2006. He convinced me only for one time back in 2015 when he performed live for Canal+ in Kinshasa at Theatre de Verdure.

For me his best concerts are his first Zenith, Olympia (even though it was disorganized), and this F’Victeam concert. Aside from that can’t think of much else

I’m happy and mad watching this because this was the extremely quick peak of his band
 https://youtu.be/qHo60gH_vdk

Very agree, since this show in Abidjan in 2015, they did not do better show.

The whole team is to review. For example, Maiko is a very good singer but Fally never takes him with him in concert except for show in Kin. Fally should keep Junior, Maiko and Ping pong and recruit new young singers. On battery, Madruma can stay he is good. At bass guitar, Wallo is fine. But for the guitar, fally must recruit entirely new guitarists and keep Golet Solo who can be very good for rumba songs (Humanisme's solo at the end...)