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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on October 02, 2019, 16:24
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I have been having in my head since last saturday ideas about spokesmen especially somebody like mosaka you can write a big bio about given how he has contributed so much in songs animation and even comedy
and i said to myself why not take one day time to write,for a start,about the three most iconic spokesmen roger ngandu,sankara and mosaka and later some others?
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waiting with baited breath
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I have been having in my head since last saturday ideas about spokesmen especially somebody like mosaka you can write a big bio about given how he has contributed so much in songs animation and even comedy
and i said to myself why not take one day time to write,for a start,about the three most iconic spokesmen roger ngandu,sankara and mosaka and later some others?
Yes, thank you Archos!!!
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You truly are a music historian, can't wait to read the bios!
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Yessss bro, very good idea
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BLANCHARD MAVUZI MAMBU AKA BLANCHARD MOSAKA
blanchard was born in kinshasa on 27th of july 1969 in kinshasa,and grew up in the area of kintambo and will quickly discover himself a talent to repair things at a very young age
and he will like most young guys be taken to church by his late mother who sang in church and his father who used to work in CHANIC(a belgian company involved in shipyards,industrial repair and much more)
under direction of "bicross" gola the father of ferre who he used to sing with in the company's musical group during ceremonies
and his taste for music will really develop in 1980's as he starts following his older brother papy mavuzi aka el pazo who is the drummer in the newly born wenge musica but he will mainly watch just concerts or sometimes hold clothes for his brother
then he'll discover the environment of music properly in the mid 1980's around his elder brother from the area djouna mumbafu who takes him under his wings along with another blanchard,and they go with him to see pepe kalle and follow djuna in several situations
then he will discover in himself musical talent,along with his football skills and ability to repair things,when one day he has to take mbonda spot in a wenge musica concert where mbonda player don pierrot did not come
and in the same period he will create an animation "bileko mamehh" which will be used by one of the first atalakus of drc ditutala in choc stars(and he will explain in recent interviews that he got inspired of that animation by watching djouna,which is why in the animation there are the names of djuna bileku and his older brother yaya londa)
but his father who has then moved to working as a mechanician for president mobutu does not want to hear about his children doing music (which is why he'll prefer el pazo and the next one osée mavuzi going to army rather than doing music) and encourages his children to go far at school to get "respectable" jobs in the future
and in 1989 he'll give satisfaction to his father as he graduates from school as one of the 5 best students of a "celebrity-studded" class of physics and mathematics along with the likes of pitshou savanet,djino kota,machiro kifaya...
but as his dad is still against him doing music he rebels and decides to go to angola to hustle rather than continuing class while he sees his friends like suzuki who was one class behind them starting to join big groups
and once there he will discover again other aspects of his talent which is writing songs and proverbs which will greatly help him in the future(this is a family gift as his two older brothers wrote songs for artists of older generations,his younger brother is one of the biggest animation provider ever of drc,his late younger sister wrote some gospel songs and his first son blana also writes songs for guys of his generation)
when he returns to kin 1 year and half later,he decides to go to class again and learn electrical industry and installation and while he studies for 4 years he is taken by yaya londa and fofo le collegien to write for madilu system either complete songs or adding parts to the song they'd give their boss madilu
and at the same time he still dreams of having a chance in football and will be shining in the team of their area in 3rd division and is recruted in the team of grand hotel where he'll get some money which will help him pay classes
and his future nickname mosaka will come at a tournament as one of he is meant to share a plate with a teammate,and that teammate finishes all the kwanga(cassava cooked in leaf wrap) and leaves him with the soup only to eat(mosaka means juice from palm nuts) and that mate will keep taunting him with the name mosaka to mock the fact he was not reactive enough to share kwanga with him
and it will end up following him with even his own brothers starting to call him like that
in 1997 when wenge musica is about to collapse he is taken by a friend to apply to join wenge musica but not as a singer,instrumentist or atalaku but as a spokesmen,as they see a young guy roger ngandu,from jb mpiana's fan club, starting to appear sometimes on tv here and there between his classes at university,to talk in the name of wenge musica which is touring outside kinshasa
and he's taken to jb mpiana's house to apply and jb to make it difficult for him tells him i'll give you some days,come back with a cassette of 100 proverbs 100 different ways of praising him and 50 different ways of praising wenge musica describing their philosophy
and to jb's surprise when he comes back it coincides with the day he is working on omba with pascal poba and eldorado and papa simaro also visiting to bring him a gift
and they'll all listen to the cassette and be so impressed that they urge jb to recruit him
and he will be accepted by the guys in wenge musica especially when they remember he is actually the younger brother of el pazo but he will not appear on tv,mainly working on radios then and doing street promotion of wenge
he'll follow jb who is his favorite among wenge admins after split in wenge bcbg and there starts tv appearances with his style of giving news along with proverbs
in 1999 when bcbg is about to perform at zenith a list is not made as then the group's number of musicians was not that big so he expects being on the list but to his surprise mbuta kiss announces him and roger ngandu they are not travelling (as ngulu's are taken instead) and in the meantime has been introduced to koffi olomide who tries to lure him into his band,and secretly contribute on a couple of attentat songs
in 2000 he will participate heavily with proverbs,most of the TH generique and correction of some songs and celeo scram who knows him from seeing him with his pire petit kakol behind the scenes asks him to give him some animation on a cassette
and that cassette with serve in terrain eza mine and later in some bill clinton solo work
in 2001 when the group is about to perform at bercy he expects once again to be on list especially he knows it will be a huge list but jb has another plan which is to let him remain in kinshasa to promote future stade des martyrs event and he will stay,and despite being obviously disappointed he does a great work in promotion of the concert
he will keep leaking secretly songs to various artists but jb does not punish him as he does not want to lose him,and he is also heavily contacted
by other leaders who promise europe tours to him but he prefers remaining loyal
he will also showcase another hidden talent in writing comedy movies for several artists like sai sai and so on and will be participating in a lot of tv shows outside music and this widely talented aspect people discover from him earn him nicknames like le savant by koffi or le magicien du verbe by karmapa,bongo ebele by his leader(it means genius,wizard,very wise...)
he will make his first trip with bcbg when they go to record in south africa and will contribute with three songs on album temperature of alba,le baron and amour sans tache aswell as co writing esau with bompema
in the meantime he will give some parts of koffi's affaire d etat and monde arabe(ko ko ko of fally and jipson's biblia plus his co writing of inch allah plus some parts of montana's song) aswell as two songs for kester and some parts on papa wemba's somo trop
he will go again to south africa to represent jb at kora's as jb could not care any less about kora trophy
when bcbg is about to return to schengen countries after ban, he is still not on the list and suspects roger ngandu to be behind it as roger had started travelling to europe already and insults roger after hearing that he influenced mbuta kiss to remove him and he gets suspended by seguin for "direspecting his chef of marketing department"and is once again approached by most groups and 6 weeks after his suspension is lifted as various donors put intense pressure on jb
and he returns and contributes with animations used by late cellulaire and the song loniatara for cedric guezula aswell as genta's song plus several correction on songs
in 2014 after repeated attacks from koffi olomide when fans of bcbg put pressure on jb to react jb decides to remain silent but with the encouragement of his colleagues mosaka decides to react strongly,later joined by roger in hitting back hard against koffi and naming koffi "vieux ebola"
and he will be brutally arrested following koffi's complaint and koffi will proudly film him and post in the presence of two of the biggest generals of congolese army video while promising him 3 years in jail
at that moment jb is in europe and when he returns he gets him out of jail and he meets koffi again who talks to him as if nothing happened and he responds with irony to koffi and although behind the scenes he tells him he is unhappy with some of the strong language he used,in public for the sake of the strange spirit existing in our music,he sees in what mosaka did a great sign of loyalty
he suggests to mosaka to release an album given his writing contribution for years but he prefers getting a song on album first to benefit from the group's fame rather than risking on his side
he will then start promoting his song for balle de match and will also finally make his first trip outside africa and enter the second category of highest salary and bonus of the group(there is the category from seguin to genta in order of arrival in the group,the category from rio to atshuda,and the various lower ones)
and he once again contributed on several songs for that album,like the ted tenday song which is the last song to be recorded recently at last minute
and also during the last years,he has very strongly defended the case of spokesmen who koffi wanted to ban from tv despite himself having spokesmen like merveille rambo and write letters to several tv's and goes to see along with roger ngandu and sankara the director of national tv to keep authorization to appear on tv to promote their groups
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Hey everyone, what are some of your favorite songs that Blanchard Mosaka has given to artist? Mine are Tchernobyl, Eternellement, and Madame La Tortue.
For the animations on TH, is he giving cries to Tutu Caludji? If I recall, his brother gave Caludji the cries of ndombolo back in 1997 so perhaps he served a similar function on TH generique.
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yeah most of th generique is him
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Jb should really keep this guy and kibens to work beyond the scene and have some talented singer do the job .. So if understand well him and kinbens have been great sources of successful songs in DRC..
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oh yeah in and outside bcbg they have contributed quite a lot,especially kibens,basically sometimes jb just choses other writers to get something different
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I forgot to mention that recently he went to a zaiko concert and ya jossart insisted that they take him to stage and said "applause for this man,he has helped me out on several albums,thanks to my young brother jb mpiana"
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PAPITCHO TUNGI KIKEBA AKA SANKARA DENKUTA
Papitcho was born in 1979 in kinshasa and grew up in the area of bandal,and quickly fell in love already shining at primary school parties with his dancing
in early 1990 he will form with his friends tchibos,fally ipupa,blaise element and co the group flash musica stars succes,with no instruments and they will once perform with instruments and sankara will present a dance he calls "engundema"
the departure of each of them to boarding schools will kill the group and when they return most will end up either in fraternite musica with seguin,didi kalombo and co or in new city de la bogania with fally blaise element jeanne massamba alvarito fonde liakis(younger brother of djino liaki currently with fally)...with sankara and blaise element mainly dancing and already trying to create their funny style of dancing
those funny dancing skills will earn him the name" papitcho likolo ekemba" as he has ability to twist his feet in choreographies
in mid 1990's he will start to sneak at few occassions into werrason's house thanks to werra's younger brother guy nkoyi and thanks to werra's cousin ladins montana and will even more be closer in the longer run to willy and adolphe ebondja
in that period he'll try to go to brazza and other african countries with the dream of europe but things will not work out well
and he has to abandon school as his father loses his wealth and struggles to fund class of his 30+ children
and when he returns he will join the group of sapeurs" la guerre des 100 ans" and will often get clothes from adolphe and sometimes sleep at adolphe's home with his nephew mathy kasongo,freddy akimbe,mbonzo..
and he will be heavily influenced by ladins montana to create a particular way of talking super fast with a lot of exaggeration
and when wenge musica splits,la guerre de 100 ans splits aswell as some follow bcbg some remain with adolphe and there will be the birth of the third style of spokesman besides roger ngandu's style in french destined to authorities,blanchard mosaka's style destined to fans of proverbs
in fact ladins montana will create,although its papitcho who will benefit from the fam,the style of GRECO(inspired by the GRECO ROMAN WRESTLING,ladins imagines that way of talking to praise people in order to get some money as a way for those who could not go the normal path of finishing class finding a job to fight against poverty) is born
and he will bring with his friends blaise element and mbonzo to learn that style well and will adopt the name of sankara depundja or petit sankara(few times after blaise element will go to bcbg so that both can fulfill their dream of europe as they cant be on same side
he will then make his first appearances on tv praising adolphe as the most handsome president of DRC groups since adolphe is then president of wenge musica maison mere and he will be told by guy and ladins to always include werra's name in his tv speechs,and he likes it because deep down he was a werra fan and will even be in that street walk organised by werra to counter first concert of wenge bcbg
he wanted to get close to werra since the days he was visiting with guy but werra ignored him and he sees in werra's praise an opportunity to get close to him
and in the long run werra will adopt him and rename him sankara dekunta by actually messing up the name he heard
and with advice of people around werra he will try to get closer and closer to werra and even starts to spy adolphe secretly
he still has his hope of going to europe but will miss first trip and will intensify spying and snitching about adolphe to try win over werra and werra will notice his efforts and will start making him make a passport and take him with some countries in africa
in 2000 sankara who has cemented his name with his appearances mixing comedy,rude words and news of the groups starts hearing from admins that he could be in the next europe list
and he will be along with the list going to bercy to brazza to take the plane but still does not know whether he travels and to his joy and surprise is called by elliott to come and take his passport to go to the plane
and once in europe he will once again snitch to werra about a second jacket adolphe has to outshine him and to adolphe's surprise the jacket disappears in locker room
he will perform in bercy as a dancer alongside zulema and female dancers and will continue his underground work against adolphe who does not talk to him anymore and when adolphe leaves before release of kibuisa mpimpa,a lot of people who knew he was adolphe's petit expect him but he surprises people by remaining with werra and becoming much more vocal in his praises of werrason
when its time to go back to kinshasa after the tour,werra wants to get a massive crowd from airport and he knows that people doubt sankara will return to kinshasa since he dreamt so much about europe so in the first date set for werra's return he decides to try something by sending sankara alone to create buzz due to rumours and also to test the level of crowd he could pull
and sankara arrives and until today brags about being welcomed better than most leaders,while people expected return of the complete group
from then he will automatic on tours and will again dance sometimes and after double zenith he will ask to stay to try to get papers as he becomes a father and will first return shortly and go back to europe
in 2003 2004 he will be replaced in kinshasa by papy le prince and will be joined by his friend blaise element who remains in europe as bcbg went back to kinshasa
during that time in europe at some point they were jailed for having sequestered their house yawner in order not to pay the rent(which will the start of a series of event which will affect blaise element long term) and werra will pay for their release
in 2005 2006 boosted by his fame he decides to record an album of funny songs with blaise element and when he gets european papers he goes to kin and performs at fikin with blaise element and reaches another dimension as he edges towards becoming the closest person to werrason as eliott's status is starting to be fragile
and during that period he will also cause controversy as he insults marie makiese,mother of ferre chair de poule who left the group and will make viral comic videos with stars like claude makelele roberto carlos and zinedine zidane as he follows werra who is invited in madrid by claude makelele
he starts becoming very important to werra to extent that sometimes he goes to get up to 10k from song customers to bring it to werra,which is something you can only do with somebody you trust a lot
he will continue to cause controversy and laughing for years with his attacks against ex maison mere musicians and other artists like koffi olomide and jb mpiana and he will even start being sometimes on mix table in studio for example assisting the arranger to mix malewa suite et fin when werra is not there
in mid 2010's he will once again cause controversy with his insults against ferre and heritier,aswell as his usual attacks on former members
but at the same time he sees other people pop with a style similar to his,like carine mokonzi and marchouse and he starts planning a change of strategy
and he will manage to take a step back on insults while still making buzz with him showcasing his nice life conditions and making comedy and one of the last times into his former self he is arrested on koffi olomide's order but released within a day by jb mpiana and he will make koffi laugh at court saying he was talking about coffee whe drink and about kofi annan
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I actually think that there needs to be a duo album between Mosaka and Sankara de Kunta. Mosaka can sing high and Sankara can sing low. He may sound like a combination of Koffi Olomide and Werrason.
BLANCHARD MAVUZI MAMBU AKA BLANCHARD MOSAKA
PAPITCHO TUNGI KIKEBA AKA SANKARA DENKUTA
What is Celeo Scram's real name btw?
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serge alimasi movili
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PAPITCHO TUNGI KIKEBA AKA SANKARA DENKUTA
Papitcho was born in 1979 in kinshasa and grew up in the area of bandal,and quickly fell in love already shining at primary school parties with his dancing
in early 1990 he will form with his friends tchibos,fally ipupa,blaise element and co the group flash musica stars succes,with no instruments and they will once perform with instruments and sankara will present a dance he calls "engundema"
the departure of each of them to boarding schools will kill the group and when they return most will end up either in fraternite musica with seguin,didi kalombo and co or in new city de la bogania with fally blaise element jeanne massamba alvarito fonde liakis(younger brother of djino liaki currently with fally)...with sankara and blaise element mainly dancing and already trying to create their funny style of dancing
those funny dancing skills will earn him the name" papitcho likolo ekemba" as he has ability to twist his feet in choreographies
in mid 1990's he will start to sneak at few occassions into werrason's house thanks to werra's younger brother guy nkoyi and thanks to werra's cousin ladins montana and will even more be closer in the longer run to willy and adolphe ebondja
in that period he'll try to go to brazza and other african countries with the dream of europe but things will not work out well
and he has to abandon school as his father loses his wealth and struggles to fund class of his 30+ children
and when he returns he will join the group of sapeurs" la guerre des 100 ans" and will often get clothes from adolphe and sometimes sleep at adolphe's home with his nephew mathy kasongo,freddy akimbe,mbonzo..
and he will be heavily influenced by ladins montana to create a particular way of talking super fast with a lot of exaggeration
and when wenge musica splits,la guerre de 100 ans splits aswell as some follow bcbg some remain with adolphe and there will be the birth of the third style of spokesman besides roger ngandu's style in french destined to authorities,blanchard mosaka's style destined to fans of proverbs
in fact ladins montana will create,although its papitcho who will benefit from the fam,the style of GRECO(inspired by the GRECO ROMAN WRESTLING,ladins imagines that way of talking to praise people in order to get some money as a way for those who could not go the normal path of finishing class finding a job to fight against poverty) is born
and he will bring with his friends blaise element and mbonzo to learn that style well and will adopt the name of sankara depundja or petit sankara(few times after blaise element will go to bcbg so that both can fulfill their dream of europe as they cant be on same side
he will then make his first appearances on tv praising adolphe as the most handsome president of DRC groups since adolphe is then president of wenge musica maison mere and he will be told by guy and ladins to always include werra's name in his tv speechs,and he likes it because deep down he was a werra fan and will even be in that street walk organised by werra to counter first concert of wenge bcbg
he wanted to get close to werra since the days he was visiting with guy but werra ignored him and he sees in werra's praise an opportunity to get close to him
and in the long run werra will adopt him and rename him sankara dekunta by actually messing up the name he heard
and with advice of people around werra he will try to get closer and closer to werra and even starts to spy adolphe secretly
he still has his hope of going to europe but will miss first trip and will intensify spying and snitching about adolphe to try win over werra and werra will notice his efforts and will start making him make a passport and take him with some countries in africa
in 2000 sankara who has cemented his name with his appearances mixing comedy,rude words and news of the groups starts hearing from admins that he could be in the next europe list
and he will be along with the list going to bercy to brazza to take the plane but still does not know whether he travels and to his joy and surprise is called by elliott to come and take his passport to go to the plane
and once in europe he will once again snitch to werra about a second jacket adolphe has to outshine him and to adolphe's surprise the jacket disappears in locker room
he will perform in bercy as a dancer alongside zulema and female dancers and will continue his underground work against adolphe who does not talk to him anymore and when adolphe leaves before release of kibuisa mpimpa,a lot of people who knew he was adolphe's petit expect him but he surprises people by remaining with werra and becoming much more vocal in his praises of werrason
when its time to go back to kinshasa after the tour,werra wants to get a massive crowd from airport and he knows that people doubt sankara will return to kinshasa since he dreamt so much about europe so in the first date set for werra's return he decides to try something by sending sankara alone to create buzz due to rumours and also to test the level of crowd he could pull
and sankara arrives and until today brags about being welcomed better than most leaders,while people expected return of the complete group
from then he will automatic on tours and will again dance sometimes and after double zenith he will ask to stay to try to get papers as he becomes a father and will first return shortly and go back to europe
in 2003 2004 he will be replaced in kinshasa by papy le prince and will be joined by his friend blaise element who remains in europe as bcbg went back to kinshasa
during that time in europe at some point they were by jailed for having sequestered their house yawner in order not to pay the rent(which will the start of a series of event which will affect blaise element long term) and werra will pay for their release
in 2005 2006 boosted by his fame he decides to record an album of funny songs with blaise element and when he gets european papers he goes to kin and performs at fikin with blaise element and reaches another dimension as he edges towards becoming the closest person to werrason as eliott's status is starting to be fragile
and during that period he will also cause controversy as he insults marie makiese,mother of ferre chair de poule who left the group and will make viral comic videos with stars like claude makelele roberto carlos and zinedine zidane as he follows werra who is invited in madrid by claude makelele
he starts becoming very important to werra to extent that sometimes he goes to get up to 10k from song customers to bring it to werra,which is something you can only do with somebody you trust a lot
he will continue to cause controversy and laughing for years with his attacks against ex maison mere musicians and other artists like koffi olomide and jb mpiana and he will even start being sometimes on mix table in studio for example assisting the arranger to mix malewa suite et fin when werra is not there
in mid 2010's he will once again cause controversy with his insults against ferre and heritier,aswell as his usual attacks on former members
but at the same time he sees other people pop with a style similar to his,like carine mokonzi and marchouse and he starts planning a change of strategy
and he will manage to take a step back on insults while still making buzz with him showcasing his nice life conditions and making comedy and one of the last times into his former self he is arrested on koffi olomide's order but released within a day by jb mpiana and he will make koffi laugh at court saying he was talking about coffee whe drink and about kofi annan
O.O Blaise Element is that old? Wow
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Was the sapeur-group "La Guerre de 100 Ans" also close to Defao ? Because I remember them coming sometimes to his rehearhals in Ngiri Ngiri (there used also to be a rare video on youtube of Sankara refusing Papa Griffe's order to leave the stage after showing their clothes with their group), Blaise Element getting a at some point a shout-out in the Tremblement de Terre-generique and Defao even naming his solo album Guerre de 100 Ans.
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So the story about Zobozi saying that he trained Sankara, Blaise Element and Mbonzo is fake ? Was always doubting about that and Zobozi came also very late, he joined Quartier Latin somewhere in 1999 or 2000 (I think 2000, because he hadn't a shout-out in Force de Frappe like Sankara & Blaise and I started to see him in all tapes who were made after the Bercy-tour).
Were the nicknames Sankara Depunja and Blaise Element inspired by former Burkina Faso presidents Thomas Sankara and Blaise Compaore ? Alot of people don't even know that Sankara De Nkuta and Blaise Element are cousins and that they used to eat secretly together after beefing on tv-stations for BCBG and Maison Mere.
Why used alot of bands in DRC travel via Brazzaville to Europe from the 80s until 2002 ? Was that because of the DGM ? the taxes ?
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zobozi said he was their coach because he started that type of style way earlier than them when he was still an atalaku for laviniora and was going on tv with champion at times then he disappeared and came back with koffi
the version of ladins montana was a bit more funny and while the style zobozi came with is closer to what he taught to marchouse,more direct and agressive
yeah that group was born from sapeurs of ngiri ngiri and bandal and was basically close to defao then moved to wenge when some like late bei canto started to meet jb and tata who were giving them clothes before they ended up also giving clothes for mabanga
it is possible that they were inspired by them,but i heard for sankara its ladins who called him like that,their original style of talking also included some mystic names which people did not pay attention to and according people i know who use to be in kindoki and now either went muslim or christian there are 3 devils with sankara in their names and it could be the other source of the name
i think it was because of the days and frequency of planes that they chose to go via brazza,at some point there were almost no plane to paris from kin so they had either to go from brazza or from cameroon for some
dgm could be an issue also because they have crazy taxes for musicians,if you remember the famous interview jb did last year when he got attacked by late yanki and co,he had just paid taxes for new passports,autorisation de sortie and many little things they create to get money which got him in a bad mood even before interview started
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it is possible that they were inspired by them,but i heard for sankara its ladins who called him like that,their original style of talking also included some mystic names which people did not pay attention to and according people i know who use to be in kindoki and now either went muslim or christian there are 3 devils with sankara in their names and it could be the other source of the name
I remember Sankara often saying in the Kibuisa-days "viens chercher le medecin pour la force la force ancestral" very quickly after his long recitations and me then wondering if he knew what he was saying.
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Some were also returing to Kinshasa via Brazzavill in 80s with their fans waiting at Beach Ngobila, but most were going back directly to Kinshasa from Brussels. I think that Adolphe Dominguez was the only artist in 90s and 2000s to have returned back to Kinshasa from Europe via Brazzaville after Bercy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKRm540hGM&t=11s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueoksrttbU
22:19 min & 44:33 min back when Adolphe was don't knowing that Sankara was a spy
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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??
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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??
surely to control them,even on private trips for example when koffi and jb went to see family and mix their albums they surely had to get authorization or they would not be on plane
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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??
surely to control them,even on private trips for example when koffi and jb went to see family and mix their albums they surely had to get authorization or they would not be on plane
how much do they pay?
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i think its 600 dollars or something like that per trip(given they move a lot it generates a lot of money) even to go to brazza they need that paper
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ROGER NGANDU BIKILA AKA ROGER NGANDU L'INTERNATIONAL
Roger was born in 1974 in kinshasa and grew up in a wealthy family as his father was a rich bank accountant and he had the dream that his children followed his footsteps or became diplomats
and roger was,like his brothers and sisters,given a strict jehowah witness education,and he'will be a good student much to the pleasure of his parents and they will promise him that the day he graduates from high school they'll send him to europe
in the meantime in early 1990's he starts falling in love with music as sometimes he goes with friends in afternoon concerts of the rising wenge musica and will be attracted by jb mpiana's singing and charisma
from then he will start slowly developping desire to be closer to musicians but given his parents' education first does it very secretly but at some point his father realises and gets angry and it coincides with him graduating from high school and to punish him his father cancels for the moment the project of europe
as he tries to still please his father he decides to go to university and study business law and starts very well while starting to approach more and more jb mpiana and his newly born fan-club MCT mukulu corporation trading( with some of the influent members taking care of his various private business) and will already be seen by other members of wenge musica especially werrason who likes him a lot
and as his dad is made aware that he gets closer and closer to musicians he decides to pay for him a room in university appartments so that he is isolated from music
but the passion from music has grown too much and he secretly still goes near jb mpiana as bouro mpela and willy star are sent to "steal" him sometimes as jb and werra want to give him some role in wenge administration,as they are aware that he is building a fanclub at university
and when they go on europe tour,they will be surprise to see roger gone on tv to announce their programs and give feedback to kinshasa fans and shortly after his father who had been forcing on illness for over a year to still work at a strong rhythm is hit too strongly by illness and ends up dying
when wenge musica return months after,they call him to greet him because he had impressed a lot of people and jb and werra offer him possibility to become the group's official spokesmen who will represent them on tv when they are abroad or want to rest after concerts
he will accept and start but will remember some of his dad's last words in hospital asking him to at least get a university diploma to honour him and he will disappear just after the entrances of ferre seguin japonais and zamuangana fiston to focus on university
months after he'll make a couple of appearances on jb's demand to talk about feux de l'amour imminent release and will go again and as he is on the verge of completing licence,wenge musica splits and he decides to go and check and he is first informed of where werra and co rehearse and is taken there but he is rejected by security guys who tell him in a rude way there is no place for him there and he should go to his luba brother jb,much to werrason's anger when he hears it
and he goes to see jb where he is welcomed and he decides to put class on hold and sees his mother to get blessing to fully start working with jb and she asks to see jb himself and tells him please take good care of him his father is not there anymore take him as your own brother
but still, to toughen him up,jb will let him go through some little hardship which are common in the world of music and he will almost want to abandon music as he is is not used to something other than sweet and peaceful life in good conditions and will be told by mbuta kiss to come to airport when bcbg is about to go to zenith and like all musicians he had offered his clothes to people knowing he'll come back with gifts but the day of trip somebody else travels instead of him
and he is so hurt that he cries but few days after he receives a phone call from jb who tells him he is sorry that he got removed and he'll make up for it by bringing him two bag of clothes
and he continues to establish on tv what is the first style of spokesmen,in french destined to "upper social class" while his partner blanchard mosaka developped second style with proverbs and lingala destined to middle class,and sankara and co developped "greco" destined to under educated street people for easier understanding
in 2001 he will finally make it on europe list and he is on the huge list for bercy tour and becomes more and more appreciated by his boss and fans
in 2004 while there is a little disagreement between him and some admins he receives insisting approach from quartier latin with promise of a big house rent and a jaguar car but he declines and at the same time starts trying to win jb's trust as much as possible
by 2006 he will manage to fully establish a strong role in administration having forced out most of the admins he had issues with and from 2007 he will officially have several roles in the group,he will be named by jb mpiana manager of the artist,vice-manager of the group behind current minister molendo sakombi,private assistant,co-manager of private businness with seguin,director of marketing section...
all these new roles will boost his confidence and he'll feel so influent with the fact that he is able to get people recruited in the group that he will also feel he can force other people out but he does it so swiftly that jb does not realise
in 2010 when group releases soyons serieux he gets a song which will end up being a bonus track and obviously very hard to promote in kinshasa
in 2013 he is again on the list for failed zenith but gets european papers as he is allowed to go to europe several times on his own for administration steps to get it
and when he returns he is tricked by combattants on a phone call which cancels australian tour
in 2014 he will be involved in polemic between jb mpiana and koffi olomide by coming with the idea of making tv appearances in doctor outfit to fight against "ebola" like they nicknamed koffi as to refer to his troublesome character and in the meantime on professional level starts to be allowed to bring contracts in the group and take a percentage and jb also starts to advise him that success can go away in a matter of seconds so he should invest in something or with his school pedigree he should consider at some point trying to become a deputy
and also to reward him for how loyal he is,with the fact sometimes he is given responsability to keep big amounts from a deal in his house and he still keeps it intact without stealing,he is given one song on album also to make up for his past failed experience
in 2017 he will follow jb's advice and invest some money he saved into a label millemium production which would organize concerts and nightclub concepts but takes time to react as some beef has restarted between people around jb mpiana and people around werrason and he will during a heritier watanabe concert produced by his label take the mic and say in front of people "let me tell you the cause of all that mess,my boss jb mpiana advised president werrason to put pride aside and make peace with ferre and heritier as they are the most likely heirs of the clan and president werrason got angry" and nobody from maison mere camp responded to that
in 2018 roger will have a tough time,his affairs with various internet journalists are made public and cause clashs between them women and it affects his reputation,in the same time as he had added to his label a travel agency he is conned almost 50K dollars by partners and to make things worse he gets suspended in bcbg for having signed illegally two contracts to try to win back some money and for having have a strong dispute with his colleague mosaka as he sees mosaka go heads and shoulders above in terms of popularity and once again he receives strong quartier latin approach as koffi has always admired him
but thanks to intervention of various influent donors his suspension is reduced then lifted and during an explosive group reunion,jb "re claims" control of the group and orders the two fighting camps of the group roger seguin jdl and co vs genta ficarre fudji and co to stop their stupid conflicts or he'll go to europe and start recording albums without the group and reminds them he had so much occasions to do things without them but he remained loyal to them
and as things are appeased and settled he gets a second song on album
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guys i have added the one of roger ngandu
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ROGER NGANDU BIKILA AKA ROGER NGANDU L'INTERNATIONAL
Roger was born in 1974 in kinshasa and grew up in a wealthy family as his father was a rich bank accountant and he had the dream that his children followed his footsteps or became diplomats
and roger was,like his brothers and sisters,given a strict jehowah witness education,and he'will be a good student much to the pleasure of his parents and they will promise him that the day he graduates from high school they'll send him to europe
in the meantime in early 1990's he starts falling in love with music as sometimes he goes with friends in afternoon concerts of the rising wenge musica and will be attracted by jb mpiana's singing and charisma
from then he will start slowly developping desire to be closer to musicians but given his parents' education first does it very secretly but at some point his father realises and gets angry and it coincides with him graduating from high school and to punish him his father cancels for the moment the project of europe
as he tries to still please his father he decides to go to university and study business law and starts very well while starting to approach more and more jb mpiana and his newly born fan-club MCT mukulu corporation trading( with some of the influent members taking care of his various private business) and will already be seen by other members of wenge musica especially werrason who likes him a lot
and as his dad is made aware that he gets closer and closer to musicians he decides to pay for him a room in university appartments so that he is isolated from music
but the passion from music has grown too much and he secretly still goes near jb mpiana as bouro mpela and willy star are sent to "steal" him sometimes as jb and werra want to give him some role in wenge administration,as they are aware that he is building a fanclub at university
and when they go on europe tour,they will be surprise to see roger gone on tv to announce their programs and give feedback to kinshasa fans and shortly after his father who had been forcing on illness for over a year to still work at a strong rhythm is hit too strongly by illness and ends up dying
when wenge musica return months after,they call him to greet him because he had impressed a lot of people and jb and werra offer him possibility to become the group's official spokesmen who will represent them on tv when they are abroad or want to rest after concerts
he will accept and start but will remember some of his dad's last words in hospital asking him to at least get a university diploma to honour him and he will disappear just after the entrances of ferre seguin japonais and zamuangana fiston to focus on university
months after he'll make a couple of appearances on jb's demand to talk about feux de l'amour imminent release and will go again and as he is on the verge of completing licence,wenge musica splits and he decides to go and check and he is first informed of where werra and co rehearse and is taken there but he is rejected by security guys who tell him in a rude way there is no place for him there and he should go to his luba brother jb,much to werrason's anger when he hears it
and he goes to see jb where he is welcomed and he decides to put class on hold and sees his mother to get blessing to fully start working with jb and she asks to see jb himself and tells him please take good care of him his father is not there anymore take him as your own brother
but still, to toughen him up,jb will let him go through some little hardship which are common in the world of music and he will almost want to abandon music as he is is not used to something other than sweet and peaceful life in good conditions and will be told by mbuta kiss to come to airport when bcbg is about to go to zenith and like all musicians he had offered his clothes to people knowing he'll come back with gifts but the day of trip somebody else travels instead of him
and he is so hurt that he cries but few days after he receives a phone call from jb who tells him he is sorry that he got removed and he'll make up for it by bringing him two bag of clothes
and he continues to establish on tv what is the first style of spokesmen,in french destined to "upper social class" while his partner blanchard mosaka developped second style with proverbs and lingala destined to middle class,and sankara and co developped "greco" destined to under educated street people for easier understanding
in 2001 he will finally make it on europe list and he is on the huge list for bercy tour and becomes more and more appreciated by his boss and fans
in 2004 while there is a little disagreement between him and some admins he receives insisting approach from quartier latin with promise of a big house rent and a jaguar car but he declines and at the same time starts trying to win jb's trust as much as possible
by 2006 he will manage to fully establish a strong role in administration having forced out most of the admins he had issues with and from 2007 he will officially have several roles in the group,he will be named by jb mpiana manager of the artist,vice-manager of the group behind current minister molendo sakombi,private assistant,co-manager of private businness with seguin,director of marketing section...
all these new roles will boost his confidence and he'll feel so influent with the fact that he is able to get people recruited in the group that he will also feel he can force other people out but he does it so swiftly that jb does not realise
in 2010 when group releases soyons serieux he gets a song which will end up being a bonus track and obviously very hard to promote in kinshasa
in 2013 he is again on the list for failed zenith but gets european papers as he is allowed to go to europe several times on his own for administration steps to get it
and when he returns he is tricked by combattants on a phone call which cancels australian tour
in 2014 he will be involved in polemic between jb mpiana and koffi olomide by coming with the idea of making tv appearances in doctor outfit to fight against "ebola" like they nicknamed koffi as to refer to his troublesome character and in the meantime on professional level starts to be allowed to bring contracts in the group and take a percentage and jb also starts to advise him that success can go away in a matter of seconds so he should invest in something or with his school pedigree he should consider at some point trying to become a deputy
and also to reward him for how loyal he is,with the fact sometimes he is given responsability to keep big amounts from a deal in his house and he still keeps it intact without stealing,he is given one song on album also to make up for his past failed experience
in 2017 he will follow jb's advice and invest some money he saved into a label millemium production which would organize concerts and nightclub concepts but takes time to react as some beef has restarted between people around jb mpiana and people around werrason and he will during a heritier watanabe concert produced by his label take the mic and say in front of people "let me tell you the cause of all that mess,my boss jb mpiana advised president werrason to put pride aside and make peace with ferre and heritier as they are the most likely heirs of the clan and president werrason got angry" and nobody from maison mere camp responded to that
in 2018 roger will have a tough time,his affairs with various internet journalists are made public and cause clashs between them women and it affects his reputation,in the same time as he had added to his label a travel agency he is conned almost 50K dollars by partners and to make things worse he gets suspended in bcbg for having signed illegally two contracts to try to win back some money and for having have a strong dispute with his colleague mosaka as he sees mosaka go heads and shoulders above in terms of popularity and once again he receives strong quartier latin approach as koffi has always admired him
but thanks to intervention of various influent donors his suspension is reduced then lifted and during an explosive group reunion,jb "re claims" control of the group and orders the two fighting camps of the group roger seguin jdl and co vs genta ficarre fudji and co to stop their stupid conflicts or he'll go to europe and start recording albums without the group and reminds them he had so much occasions to do things without them but he remained loyal to them
and as things are appeased and settled he gets a second song on album
So he never finished university ?
lol. imagine Roger Ngandu being with Werrason ahahaha. But I don't think that he would have spent a long time in Maison Mere. I'm that they would bring as ngulu to Europe in their first or second Europe-tour, like other who used to work for Maison Mere.
That's so humilating to hear that you won't go to Europe just some mintues before flight while you already gave all your clothes way. Those things happened to often in the Congolese music-scene. Why don't they never say the truth from the start instead of dissapointing people.
It was a good choice from him to refuse the offer of Koffi Olomide. Because all people working for Koffi's admin or being his spokemen always end badly (guys like Assitou Mbo, Faustin Djata, Texas Katadi, Zingeti le Ras Kaback, Zobozi, etc.)
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he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public
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he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public
because he could have problems? or jb could be against?
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he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public
because he could have problems? or jb could be against?
because of his positions,he did an interview where he was very critical of whats happening in politics and education of young generation it tooks a lot of calls from jb not to get him in mad trouble,he is very direct when he talks about politics
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I know Zobozi died but we should do a story on him. We should also do a story on Marchouse. I heard that he was an associate of Reddy Amisi. He is a good singer, I wonder why like Sankara, he does not attempt to sing himself.
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There is a story about marchouse check in the topics in research section
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There is a story about marchouse check in the topics in research section
I will look for it. I apologize. What about Tresor Kongolo?
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one day bro,i might do his bio too at some point
but his story is quite similar to roger ngandu's born in a comfortable family,fan of jb mpiana, went to university to study international relations then got taken to fally and falled out with fally due to a rude response and conflicts with admins then went to ferre until today after months of ferre refusing to get him to avoid polemic
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Is it true that Tresor Nkongolo is neighbors with Quadra Koraman?
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yeah he lives in montfleury but not on the same avenue as jb and koffi
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yeah he lives in montfleury but not on the same avenue as jb and koffi
Merci pour l'information Papa.
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CHRISTINE BONDALA KUNGUNIKU AKA KISINDJORA
Christine was born the 11th of june of 1976 in kinshasa and grew up in the area of barumbu in kinshasa and very quickly she developped tomboy attitude,prefering to play with young boys rather than young girls
like most of people into music,she will be taken down the church route by her parents but quickly she will prefer street and will play basketball from being aged 10 and few years after she will learn various martial arts and boxing
and she will start following her cousin serge aka babia in street groups and will become more and more attracted by music as she watches on tv the likes of mpongo love,koffi olomide,franco...
In 1993 when babia joins quartier latin,she sees in it a golden opportunity to get close to one of her favourite artists koffi and few months after she will insist a lot to be taken to quartier latin rehearsals
and she will already surprise people with the fact she was always dressing like a man,never with skirts always jeans and jackets and timberland
in 1998 she will get closer and become a proper "pire petit" of koffi to the extent that she takes the risk to hide and bring for koffi a fairly big amount of prohibited substances to somebody who will pass it at french airport to the boss(a lot of musicians used to do it on europe trips)
and koffi will be so impressed by her courage that he gives him a lot of shoutouts on album rond point( her nickname will be created from twisting the name of american diplomat kissinger as koffi likes giving people around him names which are trending in news) and she will start to appear sometimes on tv but not yet as an official spokeswoman
she expects to be on list for bercy but to her disappointment she is not on the list along with her cousin babia but she is not yet too furious,just mainly hurt for babia and tries to convince him to remain in the group and that he will be on the list for next tour
in 2001 she is yet again omitted from list for zenith and this time she is really upset especially her cousins babia and bibi sucre are both not on the list either and she decides to leave and knock door of wenge bcbg for bibi sucre and as she wants to fully establish herself as a spokesperson not just anymore a "pire petit" of a leader applies to jb mpiana who tells blanchard mosaka to train her
and she will be making tv appearances now as a spokesperson of wenge bcbg and catches attention with her particular looks and bibi sucre makes it on the list for bercy which once again does not piss her off as she just arrived and is okay as long as one of the relatives goes and can bring something back for family
and she is so appreciated in bcbg that jb announces she will have a song on antiterro but while the original plan was a sebene song with female dancers singing plus caludji and kibens the author of the song with her dancing a dance called "borembo" created by mignon abraham,she will bring to the group a rap song done by her brother ceden play(who she already "stole" si si si from attentat from to give it to koffi)
her idea will be welcome since it brings something "different" and also it matches her dressing style like american rappers so she goes with the group in south africa to record her song and while she is happy and one of the favorites in terms of treatment,she still is obsessed with europe
and in 2005 when jb arrives for one rare concert in paris during his ban,she is not on the list and feels not valued enough so she leaves the group and she is contacted in 2006 by fally ipupa who wants her to deal with promotion of droit chemin in africa before he returns and she does a great work
when fally arrives he gives instruction to give fake respect to koffi when she talks if she is asked to reply to koffi's shots
all is perfect until during a fally trip to europe she visits koffi to get some money to treat her cousin babia,and fally who fears koffi might attack him spiritually through her gets so furious from hearing she approached koffi that he decides to fire her straight away
she approaches wenge maison mere and is almost close to get her dreamed europe tour as mampata who likes her a lot forces her husband to get her a visa so that she goes to europe then returns to start with the group with a lot of praise but she changes her mind since she is called by koffi and she wants to pay fally back so she goes and starts to throw shade at fally but she is quickly unhappy with the treatment of babia whose state is deteriorating with fans having to give him money in street to eat
and koffi does not even take him to europe so that he gets treatment and recovers to contribute properly in the group
she'll leave the group in 2008 and while she plans a return to bcbg jb does not want to hear anymore about her because of attacks on his private life
and while she starts wanting to form a band she is approached by late donor and president of college des nobles sony ecce uomo and bought a car and a house which makes her cry as she never received such level of gifts in the groups she was in and as her contract ends
she starts on and off participation to quartier latin activities while in private she sells prohibited substances to survive
in 2014 she will be called back by koffi to respond to mosaka who had replied hard to koffi's repeated attacks and she also attacks fally for siding with jb and for having humiliated and fally gets her arrested which unfortunately coincides with the death of babia
and koffi manages to get her out few days after so that she can attend funerals and in the meantime she now has formed a band she calls les majeurs with the dream of having a succesful solo career
she will once again risk prison as fally files a second complaint few years after but she is saved at last minute by koffi
and she releases some songs with her nephew prince babia as the principal attraction of her group but as he leaves her/his group(since she now goes by "vieux ndjora" which fuels rumour that she is bisexual which she neither totally denies nor totally admits) to join team wata she goes hard on wata for years
and recently she made peace with heritier and supports him for new album and is recording a new album with her group
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Kisindjora's bio added
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I liked the way she came with "affaire ya lettre J" on tv just after that JB Mpiana filled Stade des Martyrs, citing Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Jesus, etc. They used that line on the Kolo Martyrs-song. Koffi tried to reply with "lettre O", but it hadn't a big impact.
Wasn't Kisindjora the first spokemen in the Congolese music-scene to get a song in a group-album ?
It seems that Koffi Olomide never brought one of his spokemen to Europe compared to Wenge Maison Mere and Wenge BCBG, except Zingetti le Rasback for Bercy but he was not a real spokemen, he was the boss of all Koffi fanclubs in Kinshasa. It seems that Koffi wasn't also bringing journalists to Europe while Wenge BCBG, Nouvelle Ecriture and Wenge Maison Mere brought plenty journalists (most as ngulus) to Europe. Was it a way to be credible to Maison Schengen? also was Maison Schengen aware that artists like Werrason, JB Mpiana, Papa Wemba were bringing ngulu's to Europe and closing their eyes before that bandleaders started to snitch their rivals ?
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Yeah lettre j is one of the tactics mosaka gave her to make an impact quickly(especially with joseph kabila taking over presidence,j comme joseph )
yeah the first before sankara doing album with blaise,then roger and mosaka
i think he did bring blaise wanga once and kalema once quickly,i would not say they knew but they managed to get crazy visas,and i am sure from papa wemba's case that french authorities really opened their eyes on that and number of visas dropped so hard getting more than 10 15 visas now
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Who was the best spokeperson of Congolese music?
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@Archos
A request, is it possible to do some bios of the popular Fanclub presidents such as Golf Kizola, Zingeti Le Rackabak etc.
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i will try bro its not the easiest to do bios on since we barely saw them and know about their past but i will give it a try
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Who was the best spokeperson of Congolese music?
"class" wise roger ngandu,he even won a trophy in an awards organised about kin and brazza artists yesterday
but knowledge of music wise mosaka is way above everybody
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i will try bro its not the easiest to do bios on since we barely saw them and know about their past but i will give it a try
Thanks in advance bro.
Do you think that since Carine has made peace with Mopao that Kissindjora will be unsettled, and given that she clearly was not pleased about the reconciliation even though publicly she's making it seem like she's OK with it?
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i think she is pissed but she loves koffi too much,especially as she cant get back close to her other pire vieux jb who does not want to hear anything about her since her comments 10 years ago almost now ,wow so quick, at the death of bcbg promising singer taty nsabi
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Did she eventually got her chance to go to Europe? When I was little I used to love that song
Tutunette tutunette JB Kolp Martyr
The rap lyrics in Lingala were soo mucb fun with JB Mpiana acting like the final boss of the videogame with his motorcycle.
I think that for Her (Kissindjora) the best career strategy would have been to go to Maison Mere: first Maison Mere can get even the guy recording the video a promising solo career and furthermore if Mampata wants you. You are basically untouchable, the same way Kabuya is untouchable becauee he is Nana Ketchup's favourite
https://youtu.be/Tw9OKpQJez8
Koffi seems to dislike female group members who does not sleep with him. For example he gives huge financial aid to Cindy but he never gave the same respect to that female atalaku what was her name?
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The name of the female atalaku is Ségolène Royal. Its herself who messed up, Koffi started to promote her very hard and bring her to many tv-shows. But then she became pregnant of Mukusa Ya Mbwa after that she made a short comeback at Koffi’s presentation of the BEK-album at Grand Hotel and then never came back again. Koffi then didn’t understood why she decided tod stop music.
Kisindjora never had the chance to go to Europe. She was very close to it when Mpova Music produced her album. But Mpova cancelled the trip for Berlin when he heard that his singer Ozil left.