Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Manzambi94 on December 30, 2019, 20:46
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I feel I am not welcomed anymore in the forum.
I mean one thing is to disagree but to being openly disrespected like that in a comment multiple times telling me that I am not a fan of Werra just because I have asked where is Sarah Solo or even freely asking admins to ban me following the double bam of Amastasio for not even a single reason not knowing anything about me deeply troubled me. I mean I came to the forum from Italy being the only kid between a bunch of white people who was listening to Congolese music and was and still is and will always be actually proud of being black and being Congolese/Angolan so first with my first account (Mampenza) and then with my second one (Manzambi94) I have tried to highlight/share and put up Congolese music along with the admins like Bencuri and the most notable members Archos, Matebu, Mvulusi96 etc. but I feel that things (at least towards me and for me) have worsened so I decided to leave Congovibes for good. I have found a great deal of histories, biographies and insights and good things among Congolese musicians but unfortunately even a lot of bad things especially kindoki among artists bad rivalries who ended up in a bad way and often musicians not getting paid or insulting people who can be your relatives just to get along with group leaders.
I thank Bencuri for having listened to me and all the friends of the forum I made Matebu in particular, Lonbluesquid, Aechis, Mvulusi96, Bencuri, Romeo Seben, SLY PAPA NA KEVIN, JV and many others.
It is a very sad day for me but I think that I must focus on other things and do things where most of the crowd respect me and not doubt/diss me on every thing I do. I hope that new members and old members will stop being harsh on both musicians and other Congovibes members.
So bye forum it has been a fun ride.
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Don’t leave man!!! I will definitely miss your contributions.
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come on bro,dont do that,what is going on?
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Brother @Manzambi; check your PM's. Sent you a personal plea; we can't loose you.
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never have i ever thought that one day i'd see two topics in a row about people wanting to go or gone
i understand some things hurt more than other,but if we consider ourselves like a family we must be able to discuss,apologize if needed and sort it out
yeah at the end of the day each of us have more important things in our lives,but this forum would not have lasted a month let alone years now if we did not put our heart in it together,so we just can ruin all that because of what some said,we are all humans and some tend to say things out of passion for their artist or out of anger or irony,but i believe its not that deep
please bro reconsider your decision
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Aw man, first Mvulusi, now you. Please stay Manzambi, you're always welcome on CV no matter what happens. Otherwise, we will miss you.
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What is going on these days? Manzambi my guy we may not always see eye to eye on things but you make the forum active don't leave, we already lost Mvulusi. Ignore (you know who) when he said ban you.
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It’s too competitor, please come @ Manzambi94 please
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Am a bit behind....what started this confusion of people leaving
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Just stay man.....people have different opinions.
On a lighter note Kapaya killed the entrance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B38IaYDhLFI
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Hey brooo dont leave, like archos said we are a family. We lost Mvulusi, now you... Even if some people could have hurt you, don't pay attention to that. Your contribution is just as important... Dont leave the family
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Hey all, especially manzambi94 I come to this forum almost everyday to read about upcoming music from congolese artists, post articles that I feel are worthy to the forum, and to read interesting information about congolese music during the 95-2000s era. We all have separate lives from this forum, no is better than the next person, were all equal. We ALL use this forum, no one should be disrespecting anyone for personal gain. I understand some have a STRONG passion for their favorite congolese artist or artists for example, I'm a HUGE fan of koffi, Werra, JB, Wazekwa, Fally, Ferre, and others, often I see commentators expressing their opinions that they didn't like such and such's new song, or new video which is okay, its their opinion, but I never felt the need to disrespect someone based on their views or opinions. This has been a great forum for many years and we should keep it that way!
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Don't leave man your contribution to this forum are huge man, ive learned alot from you because there's a lot of things on the congelese music i didn’t know because of you and others. Whatever your choice is, you'll always be welcome. Ps: fuck the haters.
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Mwana mobali a lelaka te.... Hein ..yaka reunion dit .. Boni belala lela boye... Lol hey my man ..please stay.. We still need you here..
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check your inbox Manzambi94
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At times the forum get quite heated. I know this for a fact. I have always urged restraint especially when commenting on the individual, I recommend that we restrict the comment /replies to the subject matter. Other matters clarifications can be able interrogated via private message.
@Manzambi94.... I urge you not to leave but into interact privately with admin to sort you out.
MY OPINION
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leave if you want bro, it's your decision and people must understand and respect that. social media is full of trolls and bullies, you just gotta rise above it all. Anyways, best of luck.
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leave if you want bro, it's your decision and people must understand and respect that. social media is full of trolls and bullies, you just gotta rise above it all. Anyways, best of luck.
Then he will forever run from bullies and trolls if he leaves a forum whenever he comes across it. You don't deal with things like this by running away from it, you deal with it by confronting it or talk with the admin, that's to me is rising above it.
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At times the forum get quite heated. I know this for a fact. I have always urged restraint especially when commenting on the individual, I recommend that we restrict the comment /replies to the subject matter. Other matters clarifications can be able interrogated via private message.
@Manzambi94.... I urge you not to leave but into interact privately with admin to sort you out.
MY OPINION
Guys shamala is right. Me and DJ Sly have no time to check the forum full time, if something happens without our noticing it, you should let us know.
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Dont take this forum seriously. Its only there for entertainment. We all share a love of Congolese music. If you look at the members we are not all Congolese. Am Zimbabwean but here i have people who love the same music as me. We cant all agree on everything. Dont let others spoil your hobby. If you are serious about leaving we cant do anything about it.
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Manzambi come back man, your insight is very much appreciated by most on this forum.
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So no luck guys in reaching @Manzambi? It's a shame we lost him like this.
To other members, please be considerate of others so our unique community can be prosper. At the same time, as other as mentioned, it's not that serious when there's little disagreements of opinion. We go through worse in our day-to-day lives.
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Manzambi come back as an aspiring musician this is a great platform for you. As Mr. Ibu said, "it doesn't matter whether you do good or bad in life people will always talk".
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To other members, please be considerate of others so our unique community can be prosper. At the same time, as other as mentioned, it's not that serious when there's little disagreements of opinion. We go through worse in our day-to-day lives.
You know over the years, despite my periods of silence in recent years, I’ve watched this forum evolve into what it is today. Members come and go but after over 20 years, the core are still here. Many of are not actively commenting but they’re still watching. At one time we had Franco and Wenge posts dominated conversations. Many of us were young then being introduced to the new and exciting ways to keep up with Congolese music and yes there were disagreements, MANY of them. But the atmosphere that I see today in this forum has gotten extremely toxic. And no offense to other members here who represent other countries but I find it totally egregious Congolese publicly disrespecting other Congolese on here, as if Congo doesn’t already have its own problems with polemiques.
This is one of the few, if not the only English speaking forum dedicated to Congolese music and it’s a shame that people feel they can’t openly express their opinions without being unfairly attacked. Even myself I’ve taken a back seat, I’d rather watch than be attacked because I don’t agree with the general consensus. Granted, my contributions today aren’t nearly as influential or meaningful as they were say 10 years ago, but I’d like to still think I have some kind of voice. It’s also sad that important contributors feel as if they don’t belong. I’m the early days, Europeans were heavy contributors and it was appreciated. But it’s refreshing to see posters who are right there in the mix, I like to call them the forum journalists . I sincerely hope Manzambi would reconsider.
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If certain people feel they are on the sideline with their opinion, or think they would feel better among people who are closer to them in way of thinking, there is always the possibility of creating a separate section for them here on the site. Even in a way, that only selected members will be able to comment there, and people can only join in an invite only way. You just need to ask.
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If certain people feel they are on the sideline with their opinion, or think they would feel better among people who are closer to them in way of thinking, there is always the possibility of creating a separate section for them here on the site. Even in a way, that only selected members will be able to comment there, and people can only join in an invite only way. You just need to ask.
Some people just need to man up and stop being soo sensitive about small things, it's not that serious. If it is, create a feature that blocks certain people from commenting on a post an individual creates.
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If certain people feel they are on the sideline with their opinion, or think they would feel better among people who are closer to them in way of thinking, there is always the possibility of creating a separate section for them here on the site. Even in a way, that only selected members will be able to comment there, and people can only join in an invite only way. You just need to ask.
Some people just need to man up and stop being soo sensitive about small things, it's not that serious. If it is, create a feature that blocks certain people from commenting on a post an individual creates.
I agree, it really isn't that serious.
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Since Manzambi was leaving, he would have done justice to us if he pointed out specific people who he considered hostile. With that they would have been notified and maybe correct themselves for the betterment of the group. Bencuri should therefore create a feature where a member can report a fellow member who they may feel is aggressive towards them. The truth is internet is full of bullies and people based on their up bringing only find joy in rebuking others. At the same time guys should also learn that it's not always your way, even though that is important it must be with respect.
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Bencuri, I wonder if when you get new suggestions for additions to the group, is there any screening process, or would that be too difficult a task to conduct?
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Since Manzambi was leaving, he would have done justice to us if he pointed out specific people who he considered hostile. With that they would have been notified and maybe correct themselves for the betterment of the group. Bencuri should therefore create a feature where a member can report a fellow member who they may feel is aggressive towards them. The truth is internet is full of bullies and people based on their up bringing only find joy in rebuking others. At the same time guys should also learn that it's not always your way, even though that is important it must be with respect.
That feature has been there since the forum started. It is at the right bottom of every post: "report to moderator". When you click that, you can even add a comment why you report the post.
Sadly, none of the members who left us recently used this feature, and without this it is not easy to find out who is upset by what.
Moreover as you can see, I added a post to the sticky topics about what you can do if you have problems. For example, you can PM me, etc.
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Bencuri, I wonder if when you get new suggestions for additions to the group, is there any screening process, or would that be too difficult a task to conduct?
What do you mean by "new suggestions for additions"?
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Bencuri, I wonder if when you get new suggestions for additions to the group, is there any screening process, or would that be too difficult a task to conduct?
What do you mean by "new suggestions for additions"?
I mean, what happens when a new user registers to Congovibes? are there any screening processes taken or it is a matter of doing the admin i.e. storing emails, IP Addresses, etc
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Since Manzambi was leaving, he would have done justice to us if he pointed out specific people who he considered hostile. With that they would have been notified and maybe correct themselves for the betterment of the group. Bencuri should therefore create a feature where a member can report a fellow member who they may feel is aggressive towards them. The truth is internet is full of bullies and people based on their up bringing only find joy in rebuking others. At the same time guys should also learn that it's not always your way, even though that is important it must be with respect.
That feature has been there since the forum started. It is at the right bottom of every post: "report to moderator". When you click that, you can even add a comment why you report the post.
Sadly, none of the members who left us recently used this feature, and without this it is not easy to find out who is upset by what.
Moreover as you can see, I added a post to the sticky topics about what you can do if you have problems. For example, you can PM me, etc.
Thanks for the feedback. At this point it's only good to encourage members to report such incidences.
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Bencuri, I wonder if when you get new suggestions for additions to the group, is there any screening process, or would that be too difficult a task to conduct?
What do you mean by "new suggestions for additions"?
I mean, what happens when a new user registers to Congovibes? are there any screening processes taken or it is a matter of doing the admin i.e. storing emails, IP Addresses, etc
The procedure here is that every new registrant has to be allowed by the admin. Just like in case of many other forums. This is not a 100% guarantee though, that whoever registers will not provoke others. You cannot look into the mind of people through the computer. The way to filter provokers is that people who feel provoked report it. Just like you report an offensive post on Facebook. The feature is there here as well since the start, some members already reported issues through this feature in the past, it was solved, this time people who left didn't report anything just left. Nothing can be done in this case. If you have problems, you have to talk about it so that people can help you.