Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: congo-243 on March 01, 2020, 20:06
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Without Fally in included of course
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Koffi of course, for now I cant see without these two who may. Olympia or Zenith yes but Bercy? no.
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Yep. Koffi is the only one.
With a good promo, JB and Ferre will fill Zenith. Maybe Heritier also. I don't know about Werra, to be honest.
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I think that is obsession with Bercy is starting to getting old. I mean ok Bercy is a huge hall but why do we base the validity of a Congolese artist based on the Bercies, Zemith, and Olympia he made? We need to sell records like Fally is doing being intermational go on to dominate globally. Bercy, Zenith and Olympia are only three halls
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There is also Palais 12 and Forest National of Brussels and 02 Arena with SSE Arena of London. U-Arena is the new challenge.
Koffi is the only artist who can fill Bercy. Ferre isn't on that level, he has to fill Zenith first which he failed to do in 2010.
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I am not sure about koffi.. But i dont see another congolese artist filling bercy..the only way those old bats( werra .jb. And co) can fill up bercy is a wenge reunion concert with all the original members.
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I think that is obsession with Bercy is starting to getting old. I mean ok Bercy is a huge hall but why do we base the validity of a Congolese artist based on the Bercies, Zemith, and Olympia he made? We need to sell records like Fally is doing being intermational go on to dominate globally. Bercy, Zenith and Olympia are only three halls
I'm just asking man, i don't really care about it like others do.
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There is also Palais 12 and Forest National of Brussels and 02 Arena with SSE Arena of London. U-Arena is the new challenge.
Koffi is the only artist who can fill Bercy. Ferre isn't on that level, he has to fill Zenith first which he failed to do in 2010.
Besides 02 Arena, you mean to tell me that no other congelese artists performed there? Wow that's surprising
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Palais 12 is a new hall in Brussels that exists since 2015 and it has a capacity 15.000. But none of the Congolese artists performed there. Felix Tshisekedi had a big meeting last year. Youssou Ndour performed this year in that hall. Wemba once performed at Forest National in 1999 to celebratie his 50th birthday. Koffi wanted also to perform at Forest National, but it got cancelled, later on rumours were spread that he was kidnapped by New Jack-gangsters. At SSE Arena only Awilo performed as a guest of a Nigerian festival which had P-Square, Bracket and co as guest back in 2013 and Abeti Masikini in 80’s for a festival dedicated to Africa, but nobody there as solo act. The same for the mythic Royal Albert hall.
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I think that is obsession with Bercy is starting to getting old. I mean ok Bercy is a huge hall but why do we base the validity of a Congolese artist based on the Bercies, Zemith, and Olympia he made? We need to sell records like Fally is doing being intermational go on to dominate globally. Bercy, Zenith and Olympia are only three halls
i see where you are coming from but it is just a measuring stick you know, it is to gauge their popularity and such... i think koffi can easily do it. Ferre should be next if we go by pecking order, then heritier then Fabro
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Palais 12 is a new hall in Brussels that exists since 2015 and it has a capacity 15.000. But none of the Congolese artists performed there. Felix Tshisekedi had a big meeting last year. Youssou Ndour performed this year in that hall. Wemba once performed at Forest National in 1999 to celebratie his 50th birthday. Koffi wanted also to perform at Forest National, but it got cancelled, later on rumours were spread that he was kidnapped by New Jack-gangsters. At SSE Arena only Awilo performed as a guest of a Nigerian festival which had P-Square, Bracket and co as guest back in 2013 and Abeti Masikini in 80’s for a festival dedicated to Africa, but nobody there as solo act. The same for the mythic Royal Albert hall.
Thanks for the info, more artists should challenge themselves lol and play at those venues to see something fresh in my opinion. Too bad there's barely any footage of Wemba's forest national
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Only a short one which came from a Kester-VHS which was to react against Wemba who mocked him for not having participated to the Masamoto-fashion show as model while he did (Kester used to call himself the King of Masatomo in those days and couldn’t accept it).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FIHa3XUkLAo
Wemba invited Nyoka Longo, Evoloko & Emeneya for that event at Forest National. He performed with Molokai International & Viva La Musica “Cour des Grands”. Nouvelle Ecriture was waiting for him in Kinshasa.
I remember Wemba’s staff contacting Werrason to cancel his event at l’Olympia Bruno Coquatrix which was on the same date. Because they were afraid that their show would be mpiaka like the one of JB Mpiana at Zenith when Werrason performed in Villejuif at the same date. Since that Forest National is very huge (8.400 seats) and they needed the whole Congolese community to support that event. But that event got quickly forgotten because Wemba never used to brag about it. While people still remember Werra’s event at Cirque Royal in Brussels (3.500 seats), despite being mpiaka.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdpRJKVs/E3-B7-C801-FFA4-4-BE1-8-CAB-2-BD3852148-E2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The videotape of Wemba’s show at Forest National is very rare.
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Only a short one which came from a Kester-VHS which was to react against Wemba who mocked him for not having participated to the Masamoto-fashion show as model while he did (Kester used to call himself the King of Masatomo in those days and couldn’t accept it).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FIHa3XUkLAo
Wemba invited Nyoka Longo, Evoloko & Emeneya for that event at Forest National. He performed with Molokai International & Viva La Musica “Cour des Grands”. Nouvelle Ecriture was waiting for him in Kinshasa.
I remember Wemba’s staff contacting Werrason to cancel his event at l’Olympia Bruno Coquatrix which was on the same date. Because they were afraid that their show would be mpiaka like the one of JB Mpiana at Zenith when Werrason performed in Villejuif at the same date. Since that Forest National is very huge (8.400 seats) and they needed the whole Congolese community to support that event. But that event got quickly forgotten because Wemba never used to brag about it. While people still remember Werra’s event at Cirque Royal in Brussels (3.500 seats), despite being mpiaka.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdpRJKVs/E3-B7-C801-FFA4-4-BE1-8-CAB-2-BD3852148-E2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The videotape of Wemba’s show at Forest National is very rare.
So ..jb really had a mpiaka at zenith uh?
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Yes, he just filled 4500 of the 6000 seats which made him being humilated in the press until that the CD and VHS came out. Which made people change their, because of the show being excellent.That’s why JB wanted to take revenge by performing at LSC the same day when Werrason performed at Zenith, but it didn’t work.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRMm972k/7-ED80-D47-B948-4-FDB-AE22-355194483-B61.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
They tried to hide it by filming the public in front of the podium and not the whole hall.
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4500 out of 6000 they call it mpiaka...lol congolese...
This is. What i call a mpiaka ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqQoFnmz_M
Disregard of the even that led to it i see a mpiaka .. But filling 4500 out of 6000 to me its a success.it could have been a mpiaka if it was jus 500 or 1000 place filled .
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Fally and Koffi maybe Werrason but as for the others I'm not sure to be honest (sucks saying that about Ferre)
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4500 out of 6000 they call it mpiaka...lol congolese...
This is. What i call a mpiaka ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqQoFnmz_M
Disregard of the even that led to it i see a mpiaka .. But filling 4500 out of 6000 to me its a success.it could have been a mpiaka if it was jus 500 or 1000 place filled .
C'mon now, that's when the combattants really started to come alive, Fally was lucky to even play that concert.
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4500 out of 6000 they call it mpiaka...lol congolese...
This is. What i call a mpiaka ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqQoFnmz_M
Disregard of the even that led to it i see a mpiaka .. But filling 4500 out of 6000 to me its a success.it could have been a mpiaka if it was jus 500 or 1000 place filled .
Look, You must understand that since Koffi’s Olympia in 1998 and the concert of JB & Werra at Palais du Peuple, it was all about giving sold-out concerts (‘aka plein na plein). If a concert isn’t sold-out then it is automatically considered as mpiaka.
The Zenith of Fally you showed was because the combattans were standing before the entree of Zenith to prevent any fan to enter the hall. Many people were beaten that day and the police was just watching. That’s why Fally just performed in front of 500 people. If the combattans didn’t and then the hall would have been packed like the one of 2010
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4500 out of 6000 they call it mpiaka...lol congolese...
This is. What i call a mpiaka ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqQoFnmz_M
Disregard of the even that led to it i see a mpiaka .. But filling 4500 out of 6000 to me its a success.it could have been a mpiaka if it was jus 500 or 1000 place filled .
Really you’re gonna use this as an example, blame the combattants for that one
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Koffi and Fally