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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on April 06, 2020, 12:56

Title: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: archos on April 06, 2020, 12:56
https://youtu.be/BVZ034WA_rA

Back in the days concert was so special that they even had names,now its meeeehhhh,just that mbuta likasu will count number of concerts in his analysis to compare musicians
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 06, 2020, 13:14
This is one of my favourite Academia Concerts! Live at LSC. I wonder what ever happened to LSC?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 15:00
Academia’s first official concert, after 1 year long rehearsing. From this concert they started to respect Academia.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 15:01
They demolished LSC, hence why Congolese artists started to perform at the new Dock Eiffel which is also in Saint Dénis.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 15:50
Many people forgot that this concert was on the same day of Koffi’s Bercy. But they both managed to sell the halls out.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 06, 2020, 16:00
Many people forgot that this concert was on the same day of Koffi’s Bercy. But they both managed to sell the halls out.
Wow I didn’t know that, Academia literally gave no f**ks they also released Sanction the same day as Attentat too.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 16:04
Many people forgot that this concert was on the same day of Koffi’s Bercy. But they both managed to sell the halls out.
Wow I didn’t know that, Academia literally gave no f**ks they also released Sanction the same day as Attentat too.

Didn’t you see how Bouro wore the same cap, that Koffi wore in the Attentat-videoclip and Somono animating aza naye Sierra-Leonnais. Just a way to challenge him.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: archos on April 06, 2020, 16:25
and now rivalries are about insulting families,overusing power to arrest people and stupid things like that
the real concept of rivalry in DRC started dying the day fally and ferre missed out on their fara fara in paris
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 18:02
Why did they recruit Abel Benz ? Just because he was Bozi’s son ?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Wenge1995 on April 06, 2020, 18:44
@Mfumu Vata

Bro, chill lmao! But agreed, his vocals on Reflexion is the only thing I liked from him.

https://youtu.be/FvUCLuNmHY8
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on April 06, 2020, 19:40
and now rivalries are about insulting families,overusing power to arrest people and stupid things like that
the real concept of rivalry in DRC started dying the day fally and ferre missed out on their fara fara in paris

So they deliberately missed out on the fara fara?

The real rilvary will only really take off between the two Fs if one does a direct diss song (of course not involving anyone outside music circles) . The type like "Malanda ngombe" of Koffi. That will force the other one to also respond thru a song. As it is now they just take cheap shots at each other.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: archos on April 06, 2020, 19:52
not deliberately both got visas rejected because musicians ran away in their last tours
there has been literally zero proper fara fara in congolese music since 2012  or something like that with fally and ferre at fikin
yeah their rivalry has been based on anything but music itself(the musical rivalry stopped in boite noire vs power)
you could see their fans bantering each other hard but respecting each other and you could see a hardcore fally fan say ferre worked well and vice versa
now at times its almost like a bunch of wild animals
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 21:25
What did they wanted to say with "Kimpwaka aleyi Jocker" ? That they won the fara-fara aganist Koffi Olomide ? Or was it just a slogan that started earlier to say that they were better than Koffi, comparing it to a card game ?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 21:54
not deliberately both got visas rejected because musicians ran away in their last tours
there has been literally zero proper fara fara in congolese music since 2012  or something like that with fally and ferre at fikin
yeah their rivalry has been based on anything but music itself(the musical rivalry stopped in boite noire vs power)
you could see their fans bantering each other hard but respecting each other and you could see a hardcore fally fan say ferre worked well and vice versa
now at times its almost like a bunch of wild animals

I think that it started with beef of JB Mpiana against Koffi Olomide in 2014 with all the beefs after it being like that and not more focusing on the musical aspect.

They started already beefing 2 years behind the scenes. But it became public, when Koffi suddenly started insulting JB Mpiana in a voicememo, calling him Jbouro, saying that he isn't strong in bed and that Amida ran way, etc. Just because JB Mpiana said that Verckys is the boss of the Congolese music. With then the war going deeper in the private life, JB Mpiana celebrating Daida Mpiana's birthday inviting Fally Ipupa, Werrason and his spokemen Mosaka & R. Ngandu throwing shots to Koffi with Koffi reacting with Didi Stonge's birthday inviting Lutumba Simaro. With the war getting nasty, Mosaka and Roger Nguadu insulting Koffi's mom, saying that they thanks Nyoka Longo for sleeping with her, etc. Coming with false stories that Aliane used to be Lebou Kabuya's wife and Blaise Bula sidechick, that Koffi stole her from his friend sapeur Kaps Kapangala and that Binda Bass left because he left with her.

Koffi then not being able to defend himself through those voicememos he used to record every week, having not a spokemen, made him decide to bring Kisindjora back. Who then started to react against JB Mpiana (saying that he isn't able to tie shoelaces his shoes because of his size, claiming that Bogus was blocking his voice hahaha) and calling Fally Ipupa a big hypocrite and traitor for siding with JB. (Bogus also entered the beef and started attacking Koffi, but Koffi reacted strongly and it made Bogus ran away from DRC). Fally & JB then not being happy the way the were attacked, deciding then to arrest Kisindjora. The war then getting worser when Mosaka & Ngandu came on tv and called Koffi, Vieux Ebola and whole social media gettig wild. Koffi then being smart and adopting the nickname Vieux Ebola. Zacharie Bababaswe who was indirectly involved in the beef, was furious and forbad him to get that nickname and cancel his concert (he had to present his new artistic name) in his area where he used to be a deputy. Later on Koffi would arrest Mosaka and later on also Sankara (who also started attack him on tv, claiming that he had to pay his debt from JB Mpiana, coming with papers on tv). Until that General Kaniama stopped the beef.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kGc1wldGy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LTkPWzS_G8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7TRUd4Ggu0
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Wenge1995 on April 06, 2020, 22:00
@Mfumu Vata

Is that why Kisandjora will never be forgiven by Fally and the others? It seems like being a spokesperson isn't worth it lol if you're too loyal then you make big enemies when you leave your boss from doing all the dirty work of slander and defense
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: archos on April 06, 2020, 22:07
Mfumu i'd even say back to after the primus stade des martyrs event when ferre and co bantered werra like himself bantered other artists who were there(since werra rarely takes anything involving several artists like a peace thing,for him its competition) and obviously maison mere took it very seriously and it created that strong polemic which involved vasco and co and robinio already  dissing ferre back then,i remember there was even in those days a little return of musicians fighting when meeting at tv or in nightclubs(for example lacoste and ferre musicians)
the things roger and mosaka said were given to them by ex spokesman of quartier latin kef kabamba(not that iam saying it was true probably he was still holding grudge of how he got kicked out with no mercy like texas katadi who was fired live on tv while doing an interview to praise and defend koffi)
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 06, 2020, 22:46
Yes, but in the Werra-Ferre beef they didn't attack each other about their private life on tv.

I didn't like how Wenge Maison Mere took it on the extreme level. By Kakol openly saying on tv, that fans have to attack Ferre's musician physically (chasse a l'homme) and Sankara calling Ferre tilapia, which makes all fans of his rivals until this day call him like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59_oiROAMts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_x-1qWFmQ

How did the beef start btw and why, because I remember Ferre already started throwing shots at Werrason in 2012.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: Kizito on April 07, 2020, 07:49
Academia lacked someone charismatic like JB, Kofi and Werrason in the lineup, charisma plays a big role in the success of a musician, the very first time I watched a video of Wenge, I liked Jb Mpiana and Werrason, Look at Jb Mpiana, he is not releasing albums but still attracts large crowds in his shows, and that is the only area that Fally beats Fere.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: congo-243 on April 11, 2020, 19:47
Bozi's son really wasn't a good singer.. Jesus
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 11, 2020, 20:09
Bozi's son really wasn't a good singer.. Jesus
Yeeeeah... I said to myself "Yikes! That's one hell of a faux chanteur"
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: congo-243 on April 11, 2020, 20:46
Bozi's son really wasn't a good singer.. Jesus
Yeeeeah... I said to myself "Yikes! That's one hell of a faux chanteur"
Facts man. If Bozi wasn't his dad I doubt he would have been in the group
Title: Re: ARCHIVE QUARTIER LATIN ACADEMIA KIMPWAKA ALEYI JOCKER 2000
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 11, 2020, 20:49
Bozi's son really wasn't a good singer.. Jesus
Yeeeeah... I said to myself "Yikes! That's one hell of a faux chanteur"
Facts man. If Bozi wasn't his dad I doubt he would have been in the group
And that's on period!