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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on April 07, 2020, 18:45

Title: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 07, 2020, 18:45
https://youtu.be/WbyDVxpt1TM
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 07, 2020, 19:08
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 19:14
The last two concerts of Fiston Zamuangana in Wenge BCBG.

lol, look the way Alain Makaba said "there isn't a Wenge of Werra or a Wenge of JB". So weird to hear Makaba say that Titanic is ready for end June, but they ended it by releasing it in november 1998. Makaba is so harsh, refusing a possible integration/return of Werrason & Didier Masela to Wenge BCBG.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 19:18
Wow, they are monters. Traveling from Tchad to Montreal through Paris, after performing there and having to travel the next day to Toronto with the train, giving a concert of min. 4h long.

It's a shame that Wenge BCBG didn't go to Japan. That would have brought Clan Wenge on another dimension like Clan Zaiko.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 19:19
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made

Btw its from Canada, that those problems started. When JB suddenly appointed Alain Mpela as Chef d'Orchestre without talking about it to Alain Makaba & Blaise Bula,.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 07, 2020, 19:24
operation leadership in full effect lol werra did the same with dechris mabanga while adolphe and masela preferred ferre as chef
that kibens song at the end was something,surely he did it about his girl of then like he did dis moi amour(funnily enough the text seems at time like the situation years after with amida)
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 20:00
from 40:35 min

JB Mpiana is calling Werrason and Maison Mere, ba locaux lol. But today its Werra and his clan who are calling JB Mpiana musicien local.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 07, 2020, 20:08
i noticed exactly the same thing,and inthe past it was maison mere portraying jb badly for having only vip in gombe and praising the fact they play closer to majority of  population which is not rich,now the same people gave jb treatment for playing at bibwa and places like with small crowds for his dimension,and are quietly doing the same thing now po choix eza te  :D :D
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 20:26
from 40:35 min

JB Mpiana is calling Werrason and Maison Mere, ba locaux lol. But today its Werra and his clan who are calling JB Mpiana musicien local.

What goes around comes around! Hahaha
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: congo-243 on April 07, 2020, 20:28
from 40:35 min

JB Mpiana is calling Werrason and Maison Mere, ba locaux lol. But today its Werra and his clan who are calling JB Mpiana musicien local.

What goes around comes around! Hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: congo-243 on April 07, 2020, 20:38
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 20:51
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team

Yeah, Imagine a fara-fara concert of Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere on the same stage in 1999 at Stade des Martyrs or Bercy. But they would surely refuse. The guys of Clan Wenge are from another planet. Back in days, Tabacongo wanted to let Wenge El Paris and Wenge Musica4x4 on the same stage, wanting to put alot of money, but Werrason, JB, Makaba and Makaba all refused.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: congo-243 on April 07, 2020, 21:14
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team

Yeah, Imagine a fara-fara concert of Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere on the same stage in 1999 at Stade des Martyrs or Bercy. But they would surely refuse. The guys of Clan Wenge are from another planet. Back in days, Tabacongo wanted to let Wenge El Paris and Wenge Musica4x4 on the same stage, wanting to put alot of money, but Werrason, JB, Makaba and Makaba all refused.
Reason why they refused? Ba banga ki?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: SLK97 on April 07, 2020, 21:15
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team

Yeah, Imagine a fara-fara concert of Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere on the same stage in 1999 at Stade des Martyrs or Bercy. But they would surely refuse. The guys of Clan Wenge are from another planet. Back in days, Tabacongo wanted to let Wenge El Paris and Wenge Musica4x4 on the same stage, wanting to put alot of money, but Werrason, JB, Makaba and Makaba all refused.

That would've been crazy. Both bands could have their best performances on the same stage and either one would still refuse to accept they had lost. Neither would their respective fans for that matter. You ain't lying when you say that Clan Wenge are strange men lol.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 21:23
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team

Yeah, Imagine a fara-fara concert of Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere on the same stage in 1999 at Stade des Martyrs or Bercy. But they would surely refuse. The guys of Clan Wenge are from another planet. Back in days, Tabacongo wanted to let Wenge El Paris and Wenge Musica4x4 on the same stage, wanting to put alot of money, but Werrason, JB, Makaba and Makaba all refused.
Reason why they refused? Ba banga ki?

I think that they feared Marie Paul's powers, because he already done crazy things with his nkisi (getting all the public of them away when they were performing in Bandal after coming back from their Europe-tour of '92, getting all their public when they performed in Nsele and the public screaming "Roi Pele, Roi Pele" like they were hypnotized)

It could also be that they feared that Marie Paul would hold a eternel supremacy over them, in the case that they would lose the fara-fara, while he is a guy who comes from their band. So they could have refused it for these reasons.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 07, 2020, 21:34
Getting rid of Blaise and Makaba that early was one of the most stupidest decisions Jb ever made
I agree. It would have been nice to see them battle Maison Mère with that team

Yeah, Imagine a fara-fara concert of Wenge BCBG and Wenge Maison Mere on the same stage in 1999 at Stade des Martyrs or Bercy. But they would surely refuse. The guys of Clan Wenge are from another planet. Back in days, Tabacongo wanted to let Wenge El Paris and Wenge Musica4x4 on the same stage, wanting to put alot of money, but Werrason, JB, Makaba and Makaba all refused.
This is why I keep saying Blaise and Makaba left too early, after they left bcbg were badly outnumbered against Maison Mere and it was clear the moment they left that Adolphe and Masela’s days were numbered. It would’ve been better if they stayed and it would’ve been The original Titanic team with the team of kibens Rio and chai against the original Maison Mere team so it would be BCBG vs Maison Mère
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 09, 2020, 11:23
https://youtu.be/GsXBzzqd0Po

Mbuta kiss talks about the split along with other musicians,patient raises interesting point about the style of feux de l'amour so its jb himself who did not want agressive live sebene(maybe to give older musicians an impression of maturity since some considered sebene like noise)
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on April 09, 2020, 12:44
Is Vieux Mbuta Kiss still alive, and still around Mukulu camp?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 09, 2020, 12:53
yeah yeah still alive a little bit caught by age,so he now works with a couple of assistants including my older brother,they all share the duties of the secretary of the group along with seguin
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 09, 2020, 12:59
https://youtu.be/GsXBzzqd0Po

Mbuta kiss talks about the split along with other musicians,patient raises interesting point about the style of feux de l'amour so its jb himself who did not want agressive live sebene(maybe to give older musicians an impression of maturity since some considered sebene like noise)

Seguin looks like a guy who’s 15 years.

JB said once in an interview he wanted to show with Feux de l’Amour to people of the old generation that Wenge was capable to make good music with songs that make sense.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 09, 2020, 12:59
https://youtu.be/MWBsQVG-IlI

Burkina Faso going straight to the point
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 09, 2020, 13:22
lol i was shocked when i heard eboa lotin call him ya blaise when they did an interview,eboa looks older
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: masatomo on April 09, 2020, 14:45
https://youtu.be/GsXBzzqd0Po

Mbuta kiss talks about the split along with other musicians,patient raises interesting point about the style of feux de l'amour so its jb himself who did not want agressive live sebene(maybe to give older musicians an impression of maturity since some considered sebene like noise)


It seems like elders (Wendo, Tabu Ley, Simaro co..) didn't like sebene back then.

Were they that many people who didn't like sebene (Wenge,El Paris,Quartier Latin,Zaiko ect....) back then ?

Like we saw people today who hate the fact that rumbas take over sebenes since nearly 15 years.
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on April 10, 2020, 17:33
yeah yeah still alive a little bit caught by age,so he now works with a couple of assistants including my older brother,they all share the duties of the secretary of the group along with seguin

Merci Yya. And this Theo Bidens is he the same Bidens of Haxo studios or these are two different people?
Title: Re: ARCHIVE OF WENGE BCBG FIRST TOUR IN CANADA WITH BLAISE MAKABA AND CO
Post by: archos on April 10, 2020, 17:58
Thats lenny bidens,sec bidens' son,theo is lenny's uncle so sec's brother