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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: congo-243 on April 20, 2020, 20:11
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I'm asking because a few of my friends who are WMM stans. Claim that they saw it as an stab in the back (which I found ridiculous since he came from Les Marquis)Me, personally I think it was a decent decision
, I think he used QL to boost his fans base (i could be wrong. The fact that he wasn't ready for a solo Carrier).
What do you guys think?
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it wasn't a mistake, because Ferre & Bill left JDT to go to Kinshasa with Ferre ending up by being dumped by Bill Clinton in Kinshasa. Ferre was broke (He had already sold his house in Kintambo to finance the videoclips of Miracles) and wasnt able to finance his band, so he accepted Koffi's offer which helped him a little bit financially. If he didn't join Koffi then he would had rejoined Werrason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUa5SuDPgZg
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It was not a mistake as he needed money to start up his band and boost his fan base due to MM fans abandoning him, so he needed to reach out for new one because at that time I don’t think BCBG fans were really willing to embrace MM kids like today. MM fans opinion about Ferre doesn’t matter because they will forever be salty towards him regardless if Ferre apologised to Werra for some reason or let Werra fuck his wife...just saying lol
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As a Quartier Latin fan, yes.
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I'm asking because a few of my friends who are WMM stans. Claim that they saw it as an stab in the back (which I found ridiculous since he came from Les Marquis)Me, personally I think it was a decent decision
, I think he used QL to boost his fans base (i could be wrong. The fact that he wasn't ready for a solo Carrier).
What do you guys think?
Congo-243 No it had to be done otherwise we will not be talking about Ferre today. After the Marquis Miracle album success which made wmm to go after them hard spiritually and physically which was not working as they were in Europe and when the news of Marquis planning that kin concerts wmm used the influence of Zachari who persuaded Bill to go solo he will make more money with the sponsorship of Skol which was a way to destroy them Bill not knowing what was going on behind the scene he agreed
Ferre arrives in kin not knowing Bill has dropped all he gets there and all the drama that happen with JDT also not coming to Kin Ferre set up his group with little he had which went quickly and still wmm were attacking him and donors he knew were not helping (influenced) not to help and other attacks spiritually so he decided to come back in Europe.
Now this is where it gets interesting wmm claims Ferre contacted them to come back but no wmm contacted Ferre to come back but he decided no as he was already approached by Koffi with the contract pf 20,000USD lots of money back then so with the project he had planned he accepted the 2 years contract and also to learn the latino way.
You will think wmm will leave him alone No this made the wmm camp even bitter that the spiritual attack level went up this is where the phrase BALATISA NGA ELONGI YA DRAGON which they wanted everyone to hate Ferre even while he is in ql.
Koffi was on top of the world having him in ql which he even gave him his mercedes, remix silvi when the version sung with Fally chief having success but he still wanted a new version with Ferre and we know the result a hit and the album went well but they were lots of things which happened with the ql members and we know the rest
Ferre's issue is not him joining ql its wmm. You know what ADT said was done to JB (tokenda Bandundu tokanga ye tosilisa ye) speciality to them but they could not finish Ferre spiritualy then Ferre dropped sens interdit which was a huge success which did not go down well so wmm decided we've tried spiritually its not worked so lets do it other way physically but harder meaning going to attack private life even family members
Do you know Davina's story is wmm who are behind the story to tarnish Ferre's reputation and image which with this one they have in someway tarnish his image as he is seen as irresponsible father by ignorant people who choose not to see the truth. When Davina's mum explained that Sankara was going to their family to persuade them to expose that which is after Nicodem had joined them as he knew the situation of the family
When Ferre is asked about wmm you see why you will not see Ferre near wmm as long as Maman Marie (his mom) is alive as the things this group have done to him I cannot see him with Werra unless the president invites them which you cannot refuse
Wmm have even joined force with Fally just so Ferre is seen as weak when Fally has never contributed a dime or dollar to wmm but Ferre who took on the responsibility JB had in bcbg 4x4 which is the no 1 voice which he managed to do while 16 or 17 years old and convinced people and look where wmm and how much money Wmm made which all went to Werra
I always laugh when wmm fans shout their support to Fally but you never see the same back as wmm songs will have all the millions views Fally does on his songs so why wmm songs do not get close to those views?
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
Manzambi94 spiritually meaning wmm going to see the juju chiefs in Bandundu as these people can change how people see you where they can even make people hate for no reason even anything you do just goes wrong
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just two little precisions bro pole,the part about elongi ya dragon,is that story were spread that ferre used to turn like a dragon on top on some women in bed including allegedly his wife which scared people ,late yanki in his lives also talked about that and said ferre is ungrateful because werra saved him by removing that thing on him allegedly
davina's mother olga mbuyi is nico's cousin
back on topic it was not a mistake but he regrets it today since how it has turned
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@Mfumu Vata
Why didn't JDT return to Kinshasa with Bill and Ferre Gola after Miracles? Had they all three returned together, would things have worked out with their band?
Sometimes I think JDT ruined his own career by carrying Les Marquis on his own with those European based musicians (Jermose, Celezino, and Picas).
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jdt did not have papers yet,bill and him rejoined paris with lookalikes passports and he wanted to sort it in order to have possibility like ferre to come and go( and also a plan b as he anticipated the leadership mess even from when they were shooting clips)
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@archos
In your opinion, who should have been the leader of Les Marquis? How long does it take (in those days), to get French papers? Can't the wait be deadly to your career...
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for me it should have been ferre,he was already their chef in maison mere so it was for me logical a bit like sam in academia
in those days it was not as long as today,nowadays days it can take almost a decade at times there is always a bit of luck in those things its like visas sometimes you see the student with brilliant results get rejected and somebody like ken mpiana getting his visa lol
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just two little precisions bro pole,the part about elongi ya dragon,is that story were spread that ferre used to turn like a dragon on top on some women in bed including allegedly his wife which scared people ,late yanki in his lives also talked about that and said ferre is ungrateful because werra saved him by removing that thing on him allegedly
davina's mother olga mbuyi is nico's cousin
back on topic it was not a mistake but he regrets it today since how it has turned
Wait so elongi ya dragon, did somebody placed it on him if I understand?
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
Manzambi94 spiritually meaning wmm going to see the juju chiefs in Bandundu as these people can change how people see you where they can even make people hate for no reason even anything you do just goes wrong
Man. It is scarying, can you counter those things with religion? Like Kimbanguism, Christianity or Islam?
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just two little precisions bro pole,the part about elongi ya dragon,is that story were spread that ferre used to turn like a dragon on top on some women in bed including allegedly his wife which scared people ,late yanki in his lives also talked about that and said ferre is ungrateful because werra saved him by removing that thing on him allegedly
davina's mother olga mbuyi is nico's cousin
back on topic it was not a mistake but he regrets it today since how it has turned
So that what Operation Dragon was about?
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So if I'm reading all of this even the alleged part about Werra being behind it. Is there ever a possibility of Ferre & Werra not beefing anymore? Or did it go to far for it to be resolved.
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But why did Werra then join Bralima if he used Zacle & Bracongo ? Because it was said that Werrason was furious to hear that Bill signed a better contract with Bracongo then him.
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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end up on par with jb
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.
I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end up on par with jb
Faux calcul on the end from Skol. Because when Werrason joined Bralima, Bracongo lost his position as number one market share in DRC, after being it for more than +20 years.
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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end up on par with jb
So the big 4 are all behind Les Marquis breaking up? Wow. is it true that they put nkisi on albums, so it don't succeed?
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.
I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
Ezalaki n'a parti nini when Prince Exposes Bill?
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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
bondimela ngai.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/DwZF23rR/326884873-small.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Always thought this cover was bit weird
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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
bondimela ngai.
Kisi eza na bisika nionso, ko banda na mizik ti na mombongo ti na politki. Ba kosa yo te.
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@Mfumu Vata
Mukusa Ya Mbwa did something similar as well, if I'm not mistaken. I always thought those were crazy rumors to promote their albums, but if this is actually true then I'm completely disgusted.
Aren't they worried about disease? Are we talking about decaying bodies or freshly dead? Not that it makes too much of a difference, both are unforgivable...
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
bondimela ngai.
Man, ozo rêver
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.
I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
Ezalaki n'a parti nini when Prince Exposes Bill?
Woooooooow it is expises Bill at right after Brigade so it was well put togheter
11:42
https://youtu.be/v2Y5vArykJk
Basically I don't understand much because he speak to fast at the beginning but at certain point he says mutu na yo ya mbua (your head is a dog head) and some other things I can't hear well then he says Demon eh zonga na zamba e wich means demons go back to the jungle. But I Don't understand the while crie but is evident now with the infirmations that it is about Bill
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@Mfumu Vata
Mukusa Ya Mbwa did something similar as well, if I'm not mistaken. I always thought those were crazy rumors to promote their albums, but if this is actually true then I'm completely disgusted.
Aren't they worried about disease? Are we talking about decaying bodies or freshly dead? Not that it makes too much of a difference, both are unforgivable...
Fresly dead. They go to the mortuary and pay the people who work there to get those corpses and have sex with it at home or at a temples and give it back later or dump it somewhere. Big bandleaders often do it when they are about to have a big event in Europe or an important concert in Kinshasa. They also get sometimes babies to do weird stuff with it, Zobozi once exposed them about that.
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.
I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
Ezalaki n'a parti nini when Prince Exposes Bill?
As 4th person in the “il est mort” animation.
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
Ndeko, that stuff is not only in Congo. It also in Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroun, Benin, Gabon & Congo Brazzaville.
Congo is not going forward because of the way politicians are ruling over Congo and don’t care about investing in Music, Education, Sports, etc. I had already explained how they killed the Music industry in the early 70s which made musicians being totally dependant from politicians & Europe.
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
Manzambi94 these practices are not only done by Congolese artists but world wide when you choose to get into this industry, you go in innocent but reality hits you that this is a different world the the one you came from so 95% of them do give in these are the ones we read on popular books, sites, watch on our tv, computer, phones, listen to every where we go so as this is a Congolese site we mostly concentrate on hem.
In the west where most of us live these practices is peodophilya and homosexuality where these artists have secret societies, freemasons and are advised these practices do give them power and we are watching one by one falling with revelations but the only difference is society here call it illness which is also praticed by some of the ordinary peoples.
In Asia these practices are viewed as religions if you have an asian friend indian for example, they wear these bands on their wrists and many have spiritual leaders a guy they go to see and seek advises
The only difference is we don't hear these other cultures claim people are killed because of that but lots of their deaths are unexplained and confusing which in Africa will be called sacrifice
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
Manzambi94 these practices are not only done by Congolese artists but world wide when you choose to get into this industry, you go in innocent but reality hits you that this is a different world the the one you came from so 95% of them do give in these are the ones we read on popular books, sites, watch on our tv, computer, phones, listen to every where we go so as this is a Congolese site we mostly concentrate on hem.
In the west where most of us live these practices is peodophilya where these artists have secret societies, freemasons and are advised these practices do give them power and we are watching one by one falling with revelations but the only difference is society here call it illness which is also praticed by some of the ordinary peoples.
In Asia these practices are viewed as religions if you have an asian friend indian for example, they wear these bands on their wrists and many have spiritual leaders a guy they go to see and seek advises
The only difference is we don't hear these other cultures claim people are killed because of that but lots of their deaths are unexplained and confusing which in Africa will be called sacrifice
Yes. In Europe especially in Italy especially in the catholic church pedophilia it is a very common and a lot of time covert by the church activity, the Mafia guy in Calabria make a ritual where they burn the image of "La Madonna" we call it here to be loyal to the group and many other things. I think that at least in Italy you Don't need it to succeed simply because in Italy for succeeding you only need money and a well connected group. I have heard tht French artists are heavy on the same Kisi Congolese people are. But I have never understood if that is real or not. And I have heard about Indiams and Chinese North Africans and Saudis that they are very fond of this thing right here
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
Manzambi94 these practices are not only done by Congolese artists but world wide when you choose to get into this industry, you go in innocent but reality hits you that this is a different world the the one you came from so 95% of them do give in these are the ones we read on popular books, sites, watch on our tv, computer, phones, listen to every where we go so as this is a Congolese site we mostly concentrate on hem.
In the west where most of us live these practices is peodophilya where these artists have secret societies, freemasons and are advised these practices do give them power and we are watching one by one falling with revelations but the only difference is society here call it illness which is also praticed by some of the ordinary peoples.
In Asia these practices are viewed as religions if you have an asian friend indian for example, they wear these bands on their wrists and many have spiritual leaders a guy they go to see and seek advises
The only difference is we don't hear these other cultures claim people are killed because of that but lots of their deaths are unexplained and confusing which in Africa will be called sacrifice
Yes. In Europe especially in Italy especially in the catholic church pedophilia it is a very common and a lot of time covert by the church activity, the Mafia guy in Calabria make a ritual where they burn the image of "La Madonna" we call it here to be loyal to the group and many other things. I think that at least in Italy you Don't need it to succeed simply because in Italy for succeeding you only need money and a well connected group. I have heard tht French artists are heavy on the same Kisi Congolese people are. But I have never understood if that is real or not. And I have heard about Indiams and Chinese North Africans and Saudis that they are very fond of this thing right here
Yes this world has so many many sick people that lots do it for fame even some of our friends and families but you won't know unless they are exposed.
We went to paris to visit one vieux I know who is sang by Papa Wemba we chilled at his with couple of his friends I got tired and went to bed left 3 of them together. in the middle of night I needed to pee so got up to go toilet and because they were still up I decided to go see them mistake I walk in and catch them watching male porn then everything clicked aaah what people say about you is true sick
In London lots of vieux from back in the 90's look at 80% of them who were around artists you will understand
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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs
I will never work with a Congolese musician for no othet reasons these are really wild things and the politicians going there is sad, that is why our countries are the way they are. Believing these dumb things instead of trying to make the country great. But why they Don't go viral? Both Congolese musicians, footballers and politicians. I mean why none of them is making a bilion views, going to CNN, making diamond disc sales?
Manzambi94 these practices are not only done by Congolese artists but world wide when you choose to get into this industry, you go in innocent but reality hits you that this is a different world the the one you came from so 95% of them do give in these are the ones we read on popular books, sites, watch on our tv, computer, phones, listen to every where we go so as this is a Congolese site we mostly concentrate on hem.
In the west where most of us live these practices is peodophilya where these artists have secret societies, freemasons and are advised these practices do give them power and we are watching one by one falling with revelations but the only difference is society here call it illness which is also praticed by some of the ordinary peoples.
In Asia these practices are viewed as religions if you have an asian friend indian for example, they wear these bands on their wrists and many have spiritual leaders a guy they go to see and seek advises
The only difference is we don't hear these other cultures claim people are killed because of that but lots of their deaths are unexplained and confusing which in Africa will be called sacrifice
Yes. In Europe especially in Italy especially in the catholic church pedophilia it is a very common and a lot of time covert by the church activity, the Mafia guy in Calabria make a ritual where they burn the image of "La Madonna" we call it here to be loyal to the group and many other things. I think that at least in Italy you Don't need it to succeed simply because in Italy for succeeding you only need money and a well connected group. I have heard tht French artists are heavy on the same Kisi Congolese people are. But I have never understood if that is real or not. And I have heard about Indiams and Chinese North Africans and Saudis that they are very fond of this thing right here
Yes this world has so many many sick people that lots do it for fame even some of our friends and families but you won't know unless they are exposed.
We went to paris to visit one vieux I know who is sang by Papa Wemba we chilled at his with couple of his friends I got tired and went to bed left 3 of them together. in the middle of night I needed to pee so got up to go toilet and because they were still up I decided to go see them mistake I walk in and catch them watching male porn then everything clicked aaah what people say about you is true sick
In London lots of vieux from back in the 90's look at 80% of them who were around artists you will understand
You know what? That is actually weird because I used to work in France one time and my uncle told me that one of his colleagues paid a song by a Congolese leader I forgot the artist who made the song, but then he told.me that his son jumped into the Semna. Bro. If you go to Paris just check the Senna from the Bridge is scarying even watching down and not hold anything let alome jump in there, I have never understood why and maybe that was the reason. I Don't think the friend of my uncle sacrified his son but the artist maybe since Kisi require people sacrified the son of th guy he ask the song to, and to be honest if I check my life there was some time where I did things like.embarassing myself in front of people and many reckless thing which are not good to hear. And at that time I used to listen to Werra's temoignage and especially Sous-Sol album heavily, like a lot a lot especially Temoignage, and now that I listen to Congolese music but not that much and Actually pause and stop when someone says shit it seems suspect.
And the concert you said of Bill solo I used to have it on my phone Bill is also an artist I used to listen to a lot
So it is true that Fally sacrified his own parents for success?
I try to limit or eliminate listening to music by artist tht I know do this thing but it is hard because it is my culture
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I have a question for you all both Congolese and Non Congolese if you all know that Congolese (Werra, Koffi, Fally, Ferre JB etc.) and non Congolese (Arafat, Samuel Eto'O) artists do that nkisi stuff why are you still listening to them supporting their music and sharing their matieral? I would love for everybody in this post to answer
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Congo-243 No it had to be done otherwise we will not be talking about Ferre today. After the Marquis Miracle album success which made wmm to go after them hard spiritually and physically which was not working as they were in Europe and when the news of Marquis planning that kin concerts wmm used the influence of Zachari who persuaded Bill to go solo he will make more money with the sponsorship of Skol which was a way to destroy them Bill not knowing what was going on behind the scene he agreed
Ferre arrives in kin not knowing Bill has dropped all he gets there and all the drama that happen with JDT also not coming to Kin Ferre set up his group with little he had which went quickly and still wmm were attacking him and donors he knew were not helping (influenced) not to help and other attacks spiritually so he decided to come back in Europe.
Now this is where it gets interesting wmm claims Ferre contacted them to come back but no wmm contacted Ferre to come back but he decided no as he was already approached by Koffi with the contract pf 20,000USD lots of money back then so with the project he had planned he accepted the 2 years contract and also to learn the latino way.
You will think wmm will leave him alone No this made the wmm camp even bitter that the spiritual attack level went up this is where the phrase BALATISA NGA ELONGI YA DRAGON which they wanted everyone to hate Ferre even while he is in ql.
Koffi was on top of the world having him in ql which he even gave him his mercedes, remix silvi when the version sung with Fally chief having success but he still wanted a new version with Ferre and we know the result a hit and the album went well but they were lots of things which happened with the ql members and we know the rest
Ferre's issue is not him joining ql its wmm. You know what ADT said was done to JB (tokenda Bandundu tokanga ye tosilisa ye) speciality to them but they could not finish Ferre spiritualy then Ferre dropped sens interdit which was a huge success which did not go down well so wmm decided we've tried spiritually its not worked so lets do it other way physically but harder meaning going to attack private life even family members
Do you know Davina's story is wmm who are behind the story to tarnish Ferre's reputation and image which with this one they have in someway tarnish his image as he is seen as irresponsible father by ignorant people who choose not to see the truth. When Davina's mum explained that Sankara was going to their family to persuade them to expose that which is after Nicodem had joined them as he knew the situation of the family
When Ferre is asked about wmm you see why you will not see Ferre near wmm as long as Maman Marie (his mom) is alive as the things this group have done to him I cannot see him with Werra unless the president invites them which you cannot refuse
Wmm have even joined force with Fally just so Ferre is seen as weak when Fally has never contributed a dime or dollar to wmm but Ferre who took on the responsibility JB had in bcbg 4x4 which is the no 1 voice which he managed to do while 16 or 17 years old and convinced people and look where wmm and how much money Wmm made which all went to Werra
I always laugh when wmm fans shout their support to Fally but you never see the same back as wmm songs will have all the millions views Fally does on his songs so why wmm songs do not get close to those views?
Sorry but this doesn't make any sense.
Ferre had his reasons for joining QLI and he had every right to but making it all about Werra and Maison Mere is too much a fan-boyish reasoning
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I have a question for you all both Congolese and Non Congolese if you all know that Congolese (Werra, Koffi, Fally, Ferre JB etc.) and non Congolese (Arafat, Samuel Eto'O) artists do that nkisi stuff why are you still listening to them supporting their music and sharing their matieral? I would love for everybody in this post to answer
For me for artistic performance and when growing up I use to sing (one of my friend Ndjibu de nazareth) me 1ere voice and him as he is one of King Kester fan 2nd voice so since childhood my artists were Papa Wemba and JB Mpiana will sing their songs then Ferre
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
Being in Ferre's position I'd probably accept QLI's offer too. Maison Mere fans of course weren't happy with Ferre's move for obvious reasons. Nobody should expect Maison Mere fans to cheer when one of their biggest stars joins a direct rival. It's typically the nature of the game & Ferre knew this would happen.
I don't agree with you that Werra's actions gave Fally a free pass to dominate Congolese music. That's an insult to Fally's talent, discipline & hard work. Fally is where he is because he's worked for it. He'd probably be where he is today even if Maison Mere never split up the first time.
Sometimes in this forum we make it sound like defections were invented in Maison Mere & are exclusively a Maison Mere phenomenon which is totally untrue. Some of these musicians leave because they have dreams to run their own show, become their own boss etc. Not all of them are driven out. Look at how people talk about JB & his BCBG's old boys with so much contempt. But if they leave, the boss still gets blamed.
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Manzambi94 spiritually meaning wmm going to see the juju chiefs in Bandundu as these people can change how people see you where they can even make people hate for no reason even anything you do just goes wrong
And Ferre never subscribed to these spiritual stuff?
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for me it should have been ferre,he was already their chef in maison mere so it was for me logical a bit like sam in academia
in those days it was not as long as today,nowadays days it can take almost a decade at times there is always a bit of luck in those things its like visas sometimes you see the student with brilliant results get rejected and somebody like ken mpiana getting his visa lol
I'd say Ferre too because he already had a sizeable fan base of his own. He was obviously the star man of the group even though the other guys were hugely talented as well. he had the face, character & charisma but I'm not sure he was ruthless enough. To successfully lead a Congolese band you must have a ruthless streak behind you, to make everyone to toe the line & never challenge your position.
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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?
Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.
You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.
Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't
Being in Ferre's position I'd probably accept QLI's offer too. Maison Mere fans of course weren't happy with Ferre's move for obvious reasons. Nobody should expect Maison Mere fans to cheer when one of their biggest stars joins a direct rival. It's typically the nature of the game & Ferre knew this would happen.
I don't agree with you that Werra's actions gave Fally a free pass to dominate Congolese music. That's an insult to Fally's talent, discipline & hard work. Fally is where he is because he's worked for it. He'd probably be where he is today even if Maison Mere never split up the first time.
Sometimes in this forum we make it sound like defections were invented in Maison Mere & are exclusively a Maison Mere phenomenon which is totally untrue. Some of these musicians leave because they have dreams to run their own show, become their own boss etc. Not all of them are driven out. Look at how people talk about JB & his BCBG's old boys with so much contempt. But if they leave, the boss still gets blamed.
But Ferre never joined QL after leaving wmm they created le marqui and released miracle album which was a sucess and after everything went as explained he was apprached and joined ql so why they still hated him till now
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Ndeko, that stuff is not only in Congo. It also in Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroun, Benin, Gabon & Congo Brazzaville.
Congo is not going forward because of the way politicians are ruling over Congo and don’t care about investing in Music, Education, Sports, etc. I had already explained how they killed the Music industry in the early 70s which made musicians being totally dependant from politicians & Europe.
It's everywhere across the globe. Juju among South Americans is on another level especially in football & the drug cartels.
But what baffles me is the way some people will stick to juju/spiritualism even when it's clear this is not helping their course in any way. For example Africa should have won the football world cup enough times with all the juju we practice
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I have a question for you all both Congolese and Non Congolese if you all know that Congolese (Werra, Koffi, Fally, Ferre JB etc.) and non Congolese (Arafat, Samuel Eto'O) artists do that nkisi stuff why are you still listening to them supporting their music and sharing their matieral? I would love for everybody in this post to answer
I'll speak for myself. I limit my interest to the music. Juju will never make Werra, Adolphe, Wazekwa have the voice of Ferre, Adjani or Fally. Again juju is everywhere in Africa. In business, in churches, etc. You'd be shocked to learn that your local shopkeeper uses juju to keep you coming back everyday, or that your local pastor went to see a juju man to get powers to perform miracles ;D ;D ;D ;D If you pay too much attention to these things your life will literally come to a grind.
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I have a question for you all both Congolese and Non Congolese if you all know that Congolese (Werra, Koffi, Fally, Ferre JB etc.) and non Congolese (Arafat, Samuel Eto'O) artists do that nkisi stuff why are you still listening to them supporting their music and sharing their matieral? I would love for everybody in this post to answer
Honestly bro, with the time, more and more peoples know that musicians do these stuffs but they dont stop listening their music because they’re very used to it and live with it almost every day and say that music will do them nothing
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This video explains and discusses in detail why Ferre is the most talked and combated musician in history of Congolese music. Bill has insulted Werra verbally in many songs, concert and interviews but MM have forgiven him but Ferre who has never done such is seen as the impolite one, way before the Vieux Jaloux song and the most criticised, hated and combated musician from MM, meaning this is got to do with some spiritual thing. Fally is ahead of Ferre In terms of popularity because of MM fans have blindly given their support to Fally to hurt Ferre their own...ba zoba.
https://youtu.be/jzXwShyiWoY
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JV and even if ferre crawls in front of nsone like they wish,its too late they have sided way too long with fally they will not be able anymore to really root for ferre,they will look like clowns to fally and koffi fans(not targetting the maison mere fans of the forum) i am talking about a way wider thing and fally and koffi fans will roast them with no mercy
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JV Thanks for the video but I don't think I will watch it that thumbnail is really scaring and I wanna sleep well today. To be honest yes. WMMM of now it is a joke and it is thanks to Werra hinself. People might think that WMMM is not at fault for Fally success but it is like 70% fault of it. Ferre leaves, Bill leaves, JDT leaves, Kabose leaves, and so on. All those departure are taking fans of Ferre and the ohers away from Maison Mere. Werra from the start have imposed his team where he is not the star and simce Ferre amd the other left of course people will not be interested. In Europe people don't even know Werra release songs and youngster will call you oldie if you speak about them or listen to their music while everybody in Europe know Innoss and Fally.
For the spiritual thing I am glad to know Deplick and Wazekwa are few of the ones who really do music for pleasures and not use those stupid tricks. To me it is just rubbish Werrason can't sing still to these day, Ferre can't make no generique and Fally couldn't do anything fir the success of Innoss. I know is ingrained in their culture but the price to pay for those silly sacrificee is too high and I think everyone saw how Arafat got his life taken cause of those Satanic path he made. Only 10 years left since the first hit Johnathan for success. Was it worth it Arafat? Knowing these things make me think that Johnatahn the guy Arafat sang for in his song got sacrificed
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manzambi here is for you a "cleaner" video with analysis of the whole thing from start to finish with fally ferre robinio werra...
https://youtu.be/WUaLhdc6NQ8
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I think it is wrong to suggests that Fally is famous because Werrason erred in his decision making, we have to understand that Music all over the world pass from one generation to another, that is why the likes Celine Dione, Boyz to Men, Back street Boys, Maria Carey are no longer relevant, Kofi in his Sixties and JB and Werra at their mid 50s do not have the hunger and desire to make good music, they need more time to rest and look at their vast business interests, they have achieved most of their goals, they gave us good memorable music for more than a Decade. The problem is that the younger generation of Fally, Ferre and Co have failed us. They are not close to the quality of music produced by the 3 musicians I have mentioned above. They gave us memorable sebenese, they invented the Clintonists, the Calujists, the old guards were very creative. And we have to admit that the congolese music is loosing its dominance in Africa to the Nigerians because of the young generation not being creative enough, and it is because they are not self made musicians, they just continue with what they learned from Kofi and Werra. That is why Innos is now carrying the congolese music flag, I am not his fan and I don't like his music but he has produced something creative. The Nigerian Musicians who are dominating Africa are not old, they are very young and energetic and we should not expect Werrason to be in-front line fighting
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To be honest yes. WMMM of now it is a joke and it is thanks to Werra hinself. People might think that WMMM is not at fault for Fally success but it is like 70% fault of it.
That is very very very disrespectful for you to say it's cause of Maison Mere why Fally is successful and just insulting his talent and his hard work. Fally already had a huge fan base and was even beefing with Maison Mere himself in the A2BM days and even in Droit Chemin days, so that's just rubbish what you just said. We get it your Ferre Innoss B's biggest fan here but you can't discredit someone else's work and career like that cause of your bias.
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prince i knew you'd be the guy correcting him ,prince alingaka te na fally na ye (hahahaha dont take it serious at all i am just joking bro)
i think its more of a misunderstanding,fally does his work and deserves his career but i think manzambi mixed it with the social media thing where maison mere fans side for him rather than any of the ex maison mere guys including their favorites
i doubt manzambi would just say he does nothing and out of the blue because he has maison mere fans on his side he is like he is
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prince i knew you'd be the guy correcting him ,prince alingaka te na fally na ye (hahahaha dont take it serious at all i am just joking bro)
i think its more of a misunderstanding,fally does his work and deserves his career but i think manzambi mixed it with the social media thing where maison mere fans side for him rather than any of the ex maison mere guys including their favorites
i doubt manzambi would just say he does nothing and out of the blue because he has maison mere fans on his side he is like he is
Looool I hate you ;D ;D yo olingi clan wenge na yo, Fally aza na nga te :D but yeah I get it just the same guys that give Celeo a lot of stick on socials. It’s kinda the same with Fabregas he now has a lot Fally and Maison Mere fans on his side these days
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@CM PRINCE
The irony is that new found fans are purely of circumstance, they actually don't care for Fabregas music lol
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To be honest yes. WMMM of now it is a joke and it is thanks to Werra hinself. People might think that WMMM is not at fault for Fally success but it is like 70% fault of it.
That is very very very disrespectful for you to say it's cause of Maison Mere why Fally is successful and just insulting his talent and his hard work. Fally already had a huge fan base and was even beefing with Maison Mere himself in the A2BM days and even in Droit Chemin days, so that's just rubbish what you just said. We get it your Ferre Innoss B's biggest fan here but you can't discredit someone else's work and career like that cause of your bias.
Bro. I said that Wenge helped Fally's career by letting all the key members of Maison Mere go. Of course Fally had talent but being boost by Ferre's arrival to QL which made QL fans both interested in how Fally would react helped a lot of Fally. The same Fally Ferre rivalry helped Fally tremendously in reaching a new level, lol fan of Ferre after I have said he has trashy generique? And I have post Fally's Sensation by Willy Zola saying it was underrated because it was a great song lol. Innoss is a star no arguing with that. I don't know why people struggle to get that. I don't hear no one singing ecole or roi manitou at Arab parties or at challenges
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manzambi here is for you a "cleaner" video with analysis of the whole thing from start to finish with fally ferre robinio werra...
https://youtu.be/WUaLhdc6NQ8
Archos do you agree with what the video says?
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10000 per cent,they even forgot lots of things,and the part i also agree with it ends with ferre is not a saint but.... which shows its not just a hardcore fan random video to defend at all costs
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10000 per cent,they even forgot lots of things,and the part i also agree with it ends with ferre is not a saint but.... which shows its not just a hardcore fan random video to defend at all costs
Good, Because of that I'm going to watch the video right now.
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manzambi here is for you a "cleaner" video with analysis of the whole thing from start to finish with fally ferre robinio werra...
https://youtu.be/WUaLhdc6NQ8
The first three minutes of the video are funny and said, funny because Ferre put in his place the journalist and sad because Ferre had a lot of respect for Werra, the other sad part of the video was seeing Celeo describing how Sankara insults other people's mother like it is something normal, Ferre's spokesman, Fally's spokesman, JB's spokesman, even Koffi's spokesman never insulted the mother of an ex member and to see Sankara doing that is sad.
I don't believe Davina's mother (Boy Ferre has some taste look at all that Ya Mado of Davina's mom)
I mean if Davina is so loving of his father why embarass him on TV? I mean from Davina's mom words Davina had always the things she needed and she loves her father so why acting like that. That is so desrespectful as a child to talk like that about your father and yes Sankara might tricked her but do you prefer your father or a jester you don't even know?
Celeo is so right about giving Wenge and especially Werrason success and the money. Good luck being Werrason na voix wana etengama to sing like Ferre, Heritier, JDT etc. Good luck being Werrason and to sing and dance like Bill or to hace a crie like KoYimbi Ko. Ko Yimbi Ko is the crie from Congo the most dance and known ever. Even when people make new dance they dance Ko Yimbi Ko and for Sankara (of course with directive from Werra) to desrespect Celeo like that is disgusting. No media outlets showed Ferre supporting Fally when QQJD came out no one. He clearly said that they both have careers and they are making an effort to do music, amd Fally now is just have grown to a mutu makasi state, since you can clearly see in the interview he says they needed Ferre since he brought that thing plus, at the end of the day it is true why making a remix of Sylvie if the song is alreeady good.
I repeat once again it is because of Wenge MMM Sankara and Werra that Fally has success. Period.
I mean Wenge did everything to ruin Ferre's image (and they managed to do it) and in this they helped indirectly Fally. If you say that people who came with you people that you claim are your sons are bad and other people sons are better people will automatically put less value onto you and that is why Many Ferre fans lost respect for Ferre and turned out Fally fans. If Wenge right now is a movement only held by Jamaique" Sarah Solo, Makaba and Kakol is Werra's fault every album except 7 Jours flopped after 2010 while Fally have never met flop unless with the group album because his rhumba in his new album are hit.
What have Werra and the others accomplished doing that? Nothing absolutely nothing
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Did Ferre ever release a DVD of the “sortie officiel” of his band Les Marquis de Beaux Garçons at Bibi Play ?