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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: congo-243 on April 28, 2020, 21:56
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
Are you specifically referring to Maison Mere or Nouvelle Ecriture?
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
I think Mi-Solo is in between, right after the first part of the guitars and before the last part while the solo guitar in Congolese music is always at the end of the electric guitar. But I am not sure so if you guys see that I am wrong tell me about it
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Usually Mi-Solo is the second guitar you listen while someone plays in Piano for example Musselu by Lobeso can be a good example of a song played in Solo and Mi-Solo
Makaba here is playing the solo while Mogratana is playing the Mi-Solo
1:12
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https://youtu.be/nsm3w70k9no
If you wanna learn the Musselu pattition is at 00:18
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https://youtu.be/BIsHEuCtEiY
04:07
In 5:21 you can hear clearly two guitar playing two different rhytms
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To answer your question, listen to Alerte Generale. While Flamme's lead guitar is very audible, listen closely and you'll hear a guitar that sounds a bit like an organ. That would be Thierry Mogratana playing. You'll notice that his part sounds higher than Polystar's rhythm guitar yet it's barely as audible compared to Flamme's part. Mi-solo essentially means half-solo; it's tuned higher than the rhythm guitar but lower than the lead guitar.
If you want a better example, listen to this Zaiko song that somehow ended up on a Lutchiana album. You'll notice that the mi-solo plays the main riff of the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A9biqM_pQ&list=OLAK5uy_kQj-Ffx4SMv9EJKDOosjTABAbsjWfrkzo&index=8&t=0s
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
Are you specifically referring to Maison Mere or Nouvelle Ecriture?
Both I have always been confused. Beniko for example is he lead or Mi-Solo?
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
Are you specifically referring to Maison Mere or Nouvelle Ecriture?
Both I have always been confused. Beniko for example is he lead or Mi-Solo?
I believe that Thierry had alternated between lead and mi-solo during his time in both bands. For example, he played lead on Kolo Histoire in the A La Une album with NE, and played lead on Wabelo in Temoignage. You can usually tell he's playing lead whenever he gets a shoutout on the song, or some encouragement to fire away. The same might apply to Beniko, but as far as I know, he's solely a lead guitarist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1wjR_DffoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmOVyrl3OE
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
Are you specifically referring to Maison Mere or Nouvelle Ecriture?
Both I have always been confused. Beniko for example is he lead or Mi-Solo?
I believe that Thierry had alternated between lead and mi-solo during his time in both bands. For example, he played lead on Kolo Histoire in the A La Une album with NE, and played lead on Wabelo in Temoignage. You can usually tell he's playing lead whenever he gets a shoutout on the song, or some encouragement to fire away. The same might apply to Beniko, but as far as I know, he's solely a lead guitarist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1wjR_DffoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmOVyrl3OE
https://youtu.be/WII_3ONSzpI
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I have always been confused on who play what role. Like for example what is Thierry Mongratana's role?
Are you specifically referring to Maison Mere or Nouvelle Ecriture?
Both I have always been confused. Beniko for example is he lead or Mi-Solo?
I believe that Thierry had alternated between lead and mi-solo during his time in both bands. For example, he played lead on Kolo Histoire in the A La Une album with NE, and played lead on Wabelo in Temoignage. You can usually tell he's playing lead whenever he gets a shoutout on the song, or some encouragement to fire away. The same might apply to Beniko, but as far as I know, he's solely a lead guitarist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1wjR_DffoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmOVyrl3OE
I appreciate the help ndeko, on schooling me.
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https://youtu.be/BIsHEuCtEiY
04:07
In 5:21 you can hear clearly two guitar playing two different rhytms
Manzambi, So Flamme Was Lead right? Burkina too? In Maison Mère
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It would have helped if congolese artists give credit to the ones that do the instruments. Like American artists do, mawa trop
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https://youtu.be/mOYoXlLTJOc
From 2:00 min Jimmy Yaba explaining what mi-solo is
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https://youtu.be/BIsHEuCtEiY
04:07
In 5:21 you can hear clearly two guitar playing two different rhytms
Manzambi, So Flamme Was Lead right? Burkina too? In Maison Mère
https://youtu.be/dTSDZSYi8o8
Here Kapaya plays the lead guitar in Alerte Generale
2:38 and then changes into his song usually the lead guitarist play the song in Solo with the 2nd guitarist backing him up in Mi-Solo and sometimes there is even a 3rd guitarist who can play Mi-Solo along with the second guitarist or play like a normal acoustic guitar accompaining the Solo and the Lead it is a little bit difficult when three guitar are involved
Anyway in this video at 00:44 you can see that after the first guitar in Lead Solo (Arc-en-Ciel) and the second guitar in Mi -Solo (Mogratana) there is adding a third guitar (I think Polystar) who plays in Mi-Solo creating a new melody complementing the two guitars that play at that time the same rhytm for then disappearing and let the second guitar (Mi-Solo) retaking tht rhytm
https://youtu.be/nsm3w70k9no
https://youtu.be/-4icE-nQDYk
Yes this is Mboka Liya playing almost all of his work as you see he is playing very close to the right hand with the left hand and that is called Lead guitar on the sebenes or Solo even though sometimes he plays in Mi-Solo like in 2:53
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It would have helped if congolese artists give credit to the ones that do the instruments. Like American artists do, mawa trop
Bro if Congo was a normal country Flamme Kapaya, Makaba, Alvarito Solo, Maitre Ficarre, Tolbert Solo, Mboka Liya, Sarah Solo, Beniko Popolipo, Felly Tyson, and many other guitarists would have been milionaires. This talent is so much good that everyone that listen to Congolese music either respects it or like it. You will never har say someone that Congolese music is ugly
https://youtu.be/3CBCOYbaqTY
Check Makaba playing with the guitar
5:11 he basically goes up in the lead solo scale to go back and play to Mi-Solo when he finishes
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You can see a video here of the composing of a full congolese tune. The second guitar is the mi-solo. It functions just as another melody line in the tune to make the sound richer. Sometimes musicians add even more, like 4 guitar lines.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WxLI9lTOwFc
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My question here is after the chorus, starting at minute 2:59 where the lead starts playing that distinct partition before Alain Mpela starts the "kanisa nanu...." vocal, where is the rhythm guitarist at in terms his licks? Kinda confusing especially in the rumbas.
https://youtu.be/NLdMnJf2uTg