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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Mfumu Vata on April 29, 2020, 19:44

Title: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 29, 2020, 19:44
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtFL7ilFm0Y

From 6:21 min

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-o2Zn1ECDnQ

From 5:54 min

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKg8xkas2o

From 11:41 min (the solo of Parle Moi d’Amour)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=slkE_rPRtAY&t=2838s

From 3:44 min
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: archos on April 29, 2020, 19:50
Yes canard was reserve in maison mere i believe he made just one or two public appearances like marchouse because there was something like 13 soloists and rhytmists combined, it was complicated to step on stage if you were not a confirmed guy like flamme japonais burkina
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 29, 2020, 20:31
Ooh so over-recruiting already started in that era before creation of the Operation Dragon-team. I once heard Mimiche (RIP) saying that when he came there were like 6 bass players.

Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 29, 2020, 21:25
But why like Congolese bands to overrecruit musicians ?
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 29, 2020, 21:40
But why like Congolese bands to overrecruit musicians ?
I've been asking myself the same question, both wenge's are the worst especially bcbg
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: SLK97 on April 29, 2020, 22:01
Ooh so over-recruiting already started in that era before creation of the Operation Dragon-team. I once heard Mimiche (RIP) saying that when he came there were like 6 bass players.

Imagine getting into your favourite band, only to realise there are 80 other bassists. OK I'm exaggerating lol, but still. Like the other 5 bassists, you're not even second-in-line. You're just an understudy waiting your turn, hoping you will play onstage, but you never do. That must hurt, regardless of position.
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Wenge1995 on April 29, 2020, 22:06
If you group a bunch of guitarist to battle for up to five spots, you'll recruit the best into the group officially and take the partitions of the runner-up to give to your best guitarist.
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 29, 2020, 22:35
But why like Congolese bands to overrecruit musicians ?

Competition. It is pretty bad to say it but if you take some poor guys with no food and or sad conditions who are already or want to proof themselves in their passion you will bring the best of them and pick the best of them while having very hungry reserves. Is the same concept we have seen with BCBG atalakus Cellulaire right before dying left the group and lost his spot as the second place that cemented the position of Genta and favoured the explosion of Pajo who could easily rely on the number two spot until Fusee came and became forced to compete
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: archos on April 29, 2020, 22:53
technically they recruit that much because tests bring fans,and also because they cant resist talent,i have never seen except strict guys like blaise bula or wazekwa for example say to a musician "you are good but we are already too much"
i was talking this morning with my big bro who is one of mbuta kiss' assistants,he told me that in december of 2001 bcbg had 193 musicians with the confirmed,the accepted at tests,those who were accepted and manage a couple of appearances,those who entered rotation,those who were tested and never ever sang or play for a second outside their test...
the argument jb and werra also have for doing that since they are by far the ones with bigger full squads is that at least if a musician joins,thats a potential gangster less in streets
do you guys know that in both maison mere and bcbg there are guys who have had 15 years but have not even made it to 3 rehearsals but have seen their work in albums done by others
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 29, 2020, 23:07
technically they recruit that much because tests bring fans,and also because they cant resist talent,i have never seen except strict guys like blaise bula or wazekwa for example say to a musician "you are good but we are already too much"
i was talking this morning with my big bro who is one of mbuta kiss' assistants,he told me that in december of 2001 bcbg had 193 musicians with the confirmed,the accepted at tests,those who were accepted and manage a couple of appearances,those who entered rotation,those who were tested and never ever sang or play for a second outside their test...
the argument jb and werra also have for doing that since they are by far the ones with bigger full squads is that at least if a musician joins,thats a potential gangster less in streets
do you guys know that in both maison mere and bcbg there are guys who have had 15 years but have not even made it to 3 rehearsals but have seen their work in albums done by others
193??  and yet jb is still content on having kibens, rio and jdl on the first team loooool. 15 years If I was them guys I'd have left after 2 years let alone 15
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: SLK97 on April 29, 2020, 23:19
technically they recruit that much because tests bring fans,and also because they cant resist talent,i have never seen except strict guys like blaise bula or wazekwa for example say to a musician "you are good but we are already too much"
i was talking this morning with my big bro who is one of mbuta kiss' assistants,he told me that in december of 2001 bcbg had 193 musicians with the confirmed,the accepted at tests,those who were accepted and manage a couple of appearances,those who entered rotation,those who were tested and never ever sang or play for a second outside their test...
the argument jb and werra also have for doing that since they are by far the ones with bigger full squads is that at least if a musician joins,thats a potential gangster less in streets
do you guys know that in both maison mere and bcbg there are guys who have had 15 years but have not even made it to 3 rehearsals but have seen their work in albums done by others
193??  and yet jb is still content on having kibens, rio and jdl on the first team loooool. 15 years If I was them guys I'd have left after 2 years let alone 15

Like I said, they would've been 12'd out in another band.
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 29, 2020, 23:33
technically they recruit that much because tests bring fans,and also because they cant resist talent,i have never seen except strict guys like blaise bula or wazekwa for example say to a musician "you are good but we are already too much"
i was talking this morning with my big bro who is one of mbuta kiss' assistants,he told me that in december of 2001 bcbg had 193 musicians with the confirmed,the accepted at tests,those who were accepted and manage a couple of appearances,those who entered rotation,those who were tested and never ever sang or play for a second outside their test...
the argument jb and werra also have for doing that since they are by far the ones with bigger full squads is that at least if a musician joins,thats a potential gangster less in streets
do you guys know that in both maison mere and bcbg there are guys who have had 15 years but have not even made it to 3 rehearsals but have seen their work in albums done by others
193??  and yet jb is still content on having kibens, rio and jdl on the first team loooool. 15 years If I was them guys I'd have left after 2 years let alone 15

Like I said, they would've been 12'd out in another band.
Imagine seeing them at La Zamba  :D :D
Title: Re: Was Canard of Wenge T.T. Flamme Kapaya’s underground solist ?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 29, 2020, 23:35
But why like Congolese bands to overrecruit musicians ?

Competition. It is pretty bad to say it but if you take some poor guys with no food and or sad conditions who are already or want to proof themselves in their passion you will bring the best of them and pick the best of them while having very hungry reserves. Is the same concept we have seen with BCBG atalakus Cellulaire right before dying left the group and lost his spot as the second place that cemented the position of Genta and favoured the explosion of Pajo who could easily rely on the number two spot until Fusee came and became forced to compete

musicians haven't necessarly to come from poor families. You got also some musicians coming from Binza, Limete, Ma Campagne, Gombe & Lemba. Michel Bass who we saw last week comes from Binza and his father used to be a professor at the university. Taddet also come from the Ngaliema-area. Sometimes they recruit musicians from Binza, knowing that they will lure girls " ya bonne vie" in the band and donors.