Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: CM PRINCE on May 17, 2020, 17:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucuWR6u872M
Even though the sound wasn't up to par you always see people dancing to this on those IG pages or all over social media. You can even hear it at parties, the impact of this was crazy compared to anything else.
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I don't know if I'd say it's the best but I'm talking more by popularity.
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yes,if we strictly talk about this century no doubt,followed by koffi's olympia
you just raised there how much solo dance is a joke thing these days while it was something you'd wait for in every concert back in the days
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https://youtu.be/u4eGbdNtbbE
Yeah Olympia was very good too, What happened to these type of solo dance in concerts?
I remember before in concerts I used to get excited to see what Fally, Bouro in QL and in Maison Mere Ferre, Bill, Baby would do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucuWR6u872M
Even though the sound wasn't up to par you always see people dancing to this on those IG pages or all over social media. You can even hear it at parties, the impact of this was crazy compared to anything else.
Ndombolo Koffi olympia
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.
I am talking bout my generations 90's kids I remember Pepe Kalle having a huge success with La Rumba amd Roger Milla amd also you couldn't have a party without Loi generique but at the same time at least for.Koffi because Pepe Kalle was too old for me to compare him with others, it is rare to see people dancing old.dances of.him and incorporating to everyday life, it is just the truth
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yes,if we strictly talk about this century no doubt,followed by koffi's olympia
you just raised there how much solo dance is a joke thing these days while it was something you'd wait for in every concert back in the days
I saw what you did there!
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Biasness aside, i have watched a lot of Concerts but this one comes on top of the pile. Preparation was key for the success of this concert. The line up from the guitars, drums( Kakol) , Ali Mbonda, Thierry Synthe to the singers, just top notch.
I remember me and my football team mates would buy each a Jukebox Token for the same part of the second Day entrance and put it on repeat lol .... and that would annoy bar partrons.
WMM Till The End Of Time!
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people musically. koyimbiko is a very popular dance! we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé .. in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying to make duets with as many rappers as possible
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people musically. koyimbiko is a very popular dance! we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé .. in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying to make duets with as many rappers as possible
Brooooooooo I totally forgot Kisanolaaaa maaaan that dance was top notch with all the group incorporating in their generique. Yes Papa Wemba is also a big influence but as I said except for the Album with Thierry Mogratana and AlPatshino
This one
https://youtu.be/w1wjR_DffoQ
https://youtu.be/ywHf2yDFxrU
Fula Ngenge also I remember that at parties that song was so loved by the older generation
https://youtu.be/Fr1ES5_MCgU
The problem about featuring is that outside of Fally and Koffi Congolese leaders do not understand the fact of expanding the brand globally and I don't think they fully realize the influemce they have take Werra for example he could live his days only from donations by people who have been inspired by him and build something like a school or a bank to help young people (since music is not his only interest) to have jobs and have a life, make a feature album with Naza, KeBlack, Maitre Gims, Niska, Stromae, Shay, Youssoupha and JayMaxVi but if you check Maison Mere is a group where jealousy and gossiping became the norm and a group that has no structure if Diego, Sarah Solo, Makaba even Kakol go one year without playing they will be broke. And with leader with that mentality of stingyness and not investing how do you think they will have the same clarity Fally and Koffi have in searching France and Belgium for a bigger audience, JB the same but JB is even lazier than Werra he is like snorlax, if JB put his enormous talent on work instead of living off of his money from Abed Achour things will be different, for example let's take Abed Achour he is rich ok? And he is the one who helped to make Innoss'B Yo Pe go strong in Arab countries. Arab people have a population of 400 milion people and think how much money yo could get by making a tour on Arab countries? And working with Arab artists
The problem of our leader is the problem of Congo greediness and too many yes man who will say exactly what you want to hear instead of people with hard critical thinking. Ask yourself why when Celeo, Bill, Ferre and all those golden generation guys were in Wenge Maison Mere was prospering. Because they had the balls to say whem things weren't right
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.
I am talking bout my generations 90's kids I remember Pepe Kalle having a huge success with La Rumba amd Roger Milla amd also you couldn't have a party without Loi generique but at the same time at least for.Koffi because Pepe Kalle was too old for me to compare him with others, it is rare to see people dancing old.dances of.him and incorporating to everyday life, it is just the truth
What you said about your generation is correct but you can't say that Werra is the reason African people respect congolese music. It's not true. Werra had his success in african countries, but that's it. He's not the reason the genre is respected. The genre been respected since Grand Kalle. Independence Cha Cha was played all over Africa.
Congolese music has always been respected in Africa; it has nothing to do with Werra. Just before Werra, Defao had Africa on fire.
This is like someone in 20 years saying that Fally is the reason congolese music is respected in Africa. It will be false.
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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any
I partly Agree and partly disagree with you, I don't believe that Werra was doing well in 2000s because Celeo and Co were criticising him. No, it is because he was young, hungry and aggressive, and he got the best out of his band. And that is normal with all human beings, their productive times in music are 20s to 40s. Mariah Carey, Celine Dione, Boyz to men have all gone into oblivion. And Werra is now just doing Music to keep himself busy and because it is his job, the same can be said to JB Mpiana.
I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people musically. koyimbiko is a very popular dance! we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé .. in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying to make duets with as many rappers as possible
Brooooooooo I totally forgot Kisanolaaaa maaaan that dance was top notch with all the group incorporating in their generique. Yes Papa Wemba is also a big influence but as I said except for the Album with Thierry Mogratana and AlPatshino
This one
https://youtu.be/w1wjR_DffoQ
https://youtu.be/ywHf2yDFxrU
Fula Ngenge also I remember that at parties that song was so loved by the older generation
https://youtu.be/Fr1ES5_MCgU
The problem about featuring is that outside of Fally and Koffi Congolese leaders do not understand the fact of expanding the brand globally and I don't think they fully realize the influemce they have take Werra for example he could live his days only from donations by people who have been inspired by him and build something like a school or a bank to help young people (since music is not his only interest) to have jobs and have a life, make a feature album with Naza, KeBlack, Maitre Gims, Niska, Stromae, Shay, Youssoupha and JayMaxVi but if you check Maison Mere is a group where jealousy and gossiping became the norm and a group that has no structure if Diego, Sarah Solo, Makaba even Kakol go one year without playing they will be broke. And with leader with that mentality of stingyness and not investing how do you think they will have the same clarity Fally and Koffi have in searching France and Belgium for a bigger audience, JB the same but JB is even lazier than Werra he is like snorlax, if JB put his enormous talent on work instead of living off of his money from Abed Achour things will be different, for example let's take Abed Achour he is rich ok? And he is the one who helped to make Innoss'B Yo Pe go strong in Arab countries. Arab people have a population of 400 milion people and think how much money yo could get by making a tour on Arab countries? And working with Arab artists
The problem of our leader is the problem of Congo greediness and too many yes man who will say exactly what you want to hear instead of people with hard critical thinking. Ask yourself why when Celeo, Bill, Ferre and all those golden generation guys were in Wenge Maison Mere was prospering. Because they had the balls to say whem things weren't right
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Yes that double zenith has built a whole generation of kids and teens who follow Congolese music , the kids and teens active on twitter and and instagram
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On behalf of Southern Africa Koffi Olomide and Awilo Longomba were the most influential this side and Extra Musica. Funny thing Werrason is even behind
1)Koffi Olomide
2) Pepe Kalle
3) Kanda Bongoman
4) Awilo longomba
5) Arlus Mebele, Sakis, Werrason
Fally got popular because everyone remembered him from Koffi, and its from 2010 they are the only 2 Congolese who had successful conerts in Zimbabwe, Werrason flopped.
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On behalf of Southern Africa Koffi Olomide and Awilo Longomba were the most influential this side and Extra Musica. Funny thing Werrason is even behind
1)Koffi Olomide
2) Pepe Kalle
3) Kanda Bongoman
4) Awilo longomba
5) Arlus Mebele, Sakis, Werrason
Fally got popular because everyone remembered him from Koffi, and its from 2010 they are the only 2 Congolese who had successful conerts in Zimbabwe, Werrason flopped.
I don't think you have seen this yet. Check it all it was om South Africa and check the crowd reaction
https://youtu.be/29fAsTnyuuk
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Yeah I had not seen this but was award ceremony, you can check all performances here everyone was hype, you can tell by them screaming even before they start singing lok....... Despite this being a rock solid performance, during this era Congo was Africa's darling. Check Awilo's performance where he gave Mandela his award.
One thing I have learnt from today's threads (Thanks to you all) is that we should seize comparing these guys, they are all legends in their own way and our facts in comparing mostly base on our preferences.
I was really touched to see that video of Werra holding (Ferre, Celeo, Bill, Heritier, Ndombe, kakol on drums) that itself is a huge incomparable achievement imagine how successful those guys are today
Look at koffi most relevant since 90s,charismatic, creative till today...... His product Falky is one of the richedt and most influential in Africa, has a group with more than 35 people producing hit after hit
JB_Mpiana has a group full of old age men, they trust him, they have a good life through his leadership.
The list goes on......... Where else in Africa can you get this.......... Yes there has to be someone better than the other but I think those are just moments and preferences
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On behalf of Southern Africa Koffi Olomide and Awilo Longomba were the most influential this side and Extra Musica. Funny thing Werrason is even behind
1)Koffi Olomide
2) Pepe Kalle
3) Kanda Bongoman
4) Wail longomba
5) Arlus Mebele, Sakis, Werrason
Fally got popular because everyone remembered him from Koffi, and its from 2010 they are the only 2 Congolese who had successful conerts in
Zimbabwe, Werrason flopped.
It is the same in all over Africa depend on which generation you are, I can put this way
1. Kanda Bongo Man and Pepe Kale, pioneers of Kwasa 1989-1990S
2. Aurlus Mabele and Sakis 1990s
3. Awillo Longomba 1994
4. Wenge Musica, Extra Musica and Kofi and Defao (1993-1996)
5. Werrason, Jb Mpiana and Kofi (1998-2005)
6. ferre and Fally (2007 to present)
I can tell you those who danced Solola Bien in 1999 do not know Kanda Bongo Man, and Solola Bien and Loi was the most danced generics in East Africa , no one has broken that record, followed by Etaj Major and Pentagon.
Felly and Ferre have not been able to make the whole of Africa dance, I don't know why
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Yeah this one is true, I argue to learn and understand what I don't, I have...... Thanks a lot.
I don't think there will be anything like Loi again and also I think its:
Ferre 2007-2013/14
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Fally 2007 - present
Ferre hasn't made much impact with generiques recently
Generique wise Fally outshines Ferre 100%, I am sure that is the reason why Fally is more popular than him.