Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Mfumu Vata on June 20, 2020, 20:29
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https://youtu.be/TqhUm2ZqqwEJe
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Routine Ferre diss? lol
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4th interview? How many times does he need to tell the same Wenge story?
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4th interview? How many times does he need to tell the same Wenge story?
Could they give us some music instead
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4th interview? How many times does he need to tell the same Wenge story?
Could they give us some music instead
He's actually promoting his album.
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4th interview? How many times does he need to tell the same Wenge story?
Could they give us some music instead
He's actually promoting his album.
Alright. Did he tell something new? or just the same old
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more or less he said things he said times and times again like didi kinuani paying him to join maison mere,werra starting to do 12 on him then trying to make up then do a bigger 12 which he anticipated and announced he left
other than that he revealed that they once almost died coming from the goma concert of 2003 where they spotted capuccino the first time werra took a "good" plane with the dancers while the singers atalakus and instrumentists took a dodgy one which was near exploding when landing and bill angrily confronted werra about that and it was one of the turning points of the rebellion also bill and werra had agreed conditions bill would receive for bringing in tindika lokito generique but he received nothing while there was big money he also revealed that once some of the weed smokers of maison mere then (baby ndombe and jdt) wanted to beat him and celeo over something he did not explain clearly and they made a plan and when they arrived in rehearsal both baby and jdt jumped on celeo and they fought and although celeo defended himself very well two big fighters were too much to handle and it all happened in front of werra who was acting like he is not seeing any thing then with a low voice werra said to somebody "are they done fighting?" then jumped of his chair and started giving instructions to start rehearsal
he also talked about the kabose ferre thing indirectly saying indeed kabose had a chance in maison mere because of ferre,and that they should not beef with each other they are from same family which is maison mere,and even more they should not beef with kabose praising with a suspect intention ferre's rival,because never will quartier latin guys will glory and spotlight to a maison mere guy rather than one of their own so they should deal with their issues in private as a family rather than "sacrificing clan wenge"
he has nothing but respect for fally and his career and how he makes congo proud but he does not believe its the right thing to do to use fally's name to diss a fellow clan wenge brother,because fally will never use one of the clan wenge guys to hurt his quartier latin brothers
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What Aimelia said was spot on about how QL guys would never praise clan Wenge guys over their own, but at the same time he’s contradicting himself because he’s praised Koffi so many times over Werra and Jb.
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That was a real 12 Aimelia received from JB, recording a videoclip for the song Liberation but not releasing it on VHS.
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That was a real 12 Aimelia received from JB, recording a videoclip for the song Liberation but not releasing it on VHS.
Yeah I can’t believe Jb did that, I wonder if they recorded a clip for Barakuda because technically Makaba was still in the band by the time they filmed those clips.
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That was a real 12 Aimelia received from JB, recording a videoclip for the song Liberation but not releasing it on VHS.
Yeah I can’t believe Jb did that, I wonder if they recorded a clip for Barakuda because technically Makaba was still in the band by the time they filmed those clips.
Never even realized it until yall brought it up lmao damn I'm surprised he didn't raise hell about his song not having a clip
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I would have loved him to explain more as to why him and Celeo were targeted by the would be Les Marquis founders. Is it because they were not in on the rebellion against the boss of the group and were seen as traitors.
What he said about clan Wenge members beefing publicly is spot.
It seems to me that Aimelia was more hurt for being pushed out of BCBG than any the of the 12 he suffered at the hands of Maison Mere. During that double Zenith concert, Aimelia's body language told of someone who was physically at the concert but his spirit was elsewhere.
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yes aimelia is more hurt with bcbg departure because its jb who brought him into wenge and he considered himself a strong co-founder of wenge bcbg but what happened is that lias was victim of jealousy of some of the admins because lias success was rising so much that he was approached by their donor sidekicks(he even had a little thing with mpela over that) and guys like seguin who had to position themselves were sent by admins to follow and snitch on him so loads of negative things were reported to jb who as we know like most leaders is not the type to take a week of balancing two versions before making a decision
his clip was shot the last if my memory is still intact it had the first appearance of heritier wearing jb clothes way bigger than him lol but they started snitching to jb that he is about to join quartier latin because he was receiving gifts from koffi and once discussing with champion over a potential move according to them so in most of 1999 jb was already not talking much to lias and the clip was not released for the simple reason that mbuta kiss refused to pay the money to tv's because lias disrespected once,you guys know that " petit wana akomi tetu nakolakisa ye" thing and jb also wanted to see whether lias would stay or not,then what worsened the thing is that it was reported to jb that lias was seen getting out of the house of a jb sidekick with obvious "spice" on it to win his trust,and from then it became like ok now we'll give him "bouton ya molimo" which is the strongest bcbg 12 in other words ignoreing until you explode inside and leave,and there was created by seguin and mbuta the plan of recording th without him knowing
all in all both sides had their fault but obviously congolese music as it is always make the leader's side react stronger
i have never heard a band member hurting seriously the leader with a 12 its always the other way round
the admins and many musicians were upset with the way lias received by far more money and gifts than most,even mpela and that he did not respect the code of wenge which is to offer something to admins on major tours and himself also did not handle well like most a sudden big rise of success,he is naturally a very humble guy but in 99,9999999999 of cases even the most humble lose their heads a little bit with success in congolese music
barakuda was not released makaba wanted to do it in europe in belgium with atomium and all that with a little part to be shot at their family house in bandal and unfortunately him and jb started clashing over PPU concept he did not accept kibens,rio,chai and heritier being recruited while he was in europe
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Sad. Music in Congo is the real jungle. @Archos @Mfumu consider writing together a book. You are sitting on a gold mine. It would be a best seller since that you would be writing from an insider point of view... Then you can co opt me in for the English version of the book.
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Aimelia saying that Koffi recruited Lebou because of Alain Makaba, but that's not true. Koffi didn't even know about Lebou, it's Rocky Blanchard who presented him to Koffi. His looks, the way of dressing and playing lead made people immediatly compare him to Alain Makaba when they started notice him after the release of Magie, while he was already around in QL just after Koweit Rive Gauche. Having already played on albums like Pas de Faux Pas & Noblesse Oblige.
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yes aimelia is more hurt with bcbg departure because its jb who brought him into wenge and he considered himself a strong co-founder of wenge bcbg but what happened is that lias was victim of jealousy of some of the admins because lias success was rising so much that he was approached by their donor sidekicks(he even had a little thing with mpela over that) and guys like seguin who had to position themselves were sent by admins to follow and snitch on him so loads of negative things were reported to jb who as we know like most leaders is not the type to take a week of balancing two versions before making a decision
his clip was shot the last if my memory is still intact it had the first appearance of heritier wearing jb clothes way bigger than him lol but they started snitching to jb that he is about to join quartier latin because he was receiving gifts from koffi and once discussing with champion over a potential move according to them so in most of 1999 jb was already not talking much to lias and the clip was not released for the simple reason that mbuta kiss refused to pay the money to tv's because lias disrespected once,you guys know that " petit wana akomi tetu nakolakisa ye" thing and jb also wanted to see whether lias would stay or not,then what worsened the thing is that it was reported to jb that lias was seen getting out of the house of a jb sidekick with obvious "spice" on it to win his trust,and from then it became like ok now we'll give him "bouton ya molimo" which is the strongest bcbg 12 in other words ignoreing until you explode inside and leave,and there was created by seguin and mbuta the plan of recording th without him knowing
all in all both sides had their fault but obviously congolese music as it is always make the leader's side react stronger
i have never heard a band member hurting seriously the leader with a 12 its always the other way round
the admins and many musicians were upset with the way lias received by far more money and gifts than most,even mpela and that he did not respect the code of wenge which is to offer something to admins on major tours and himself also did not handle well like most a sudden big rise of success,he is naturally a very humble guy but in 99,9999999999 of cases even the most humble lose their heads a little bit with success in congolese music
barakuda was not released makaba wanted to do it in europe in belgium with atomium and all that with a little part to be shot at their family house in bandal and unfortunately him and jb started clashing over PPU concept he did not accept kibens,rio,chai and heritier being recruited while he was in europe
I'm guessing Alain Makaba's place was shaky because he always seemed to be in Europe. He was in Europe during the clips of Pentagon as well. At that time, BCBG toured often so I would imagine his lack of availability would eventually pass JB off.
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exactly makaba was like a marginal member of the group and funnily enough when he came back and wanted to use his authority it always created big clash,in 1991 1992 while he was in europe studying jazz wenge 4X4 arrived to do kin e bouger and the group almost splitted because of him insisting that everybody had to be paid,same thing in feux de l'amour same thing in titanic when he came to reclaim financial direction while it had shifted fully to a private jb and mbuta kiss thing because of him remaining in europe
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I’m with Aimelia on QL people never praising a Wenge man over their own unlike Wenge people who insult their own 24/7 to be liked by the other camp. Ferre had many good reason to praise Koffi because MM crossed the line and he had no choice to create new fan for himself. Quartier Latin was created to keep up with young energetic Wenge domination we all know that.
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exactly makaba was like a marginal member of the group and funnily enough when he came back and wanted to use his authority it always created big clash,in 1991 1992 while he was in europe studying jazz wenge 4X4 arrived to do kin e bouger and the group almost splitted because of him insisting that everybody had to be paid,same thing in feux de l'amour same thing in titanic when he came to reclaim financial direction while it had shifted fully to a private jb and mbuta kiss thing because of him remaining in europe
I always say if Makaba remained in kin especially after the split him and Blaise wouldn’t have left so soon and we wouldn’t have ended up with Kibens, Rio and Chai, but he should’ve known better
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exactly makaba was like a marginal member of the group and funnily enough when he came back and wanted to use his authority it always created big clash,in 1991 1992 while he was in europe studying jazz wenge 4X4 arrived to do kin e bouger and the group almost splitted because of him insisting that everybody had to be paid,same thing in feux de l'amour same thing in titanic when he came to reclaim financial direction while it had shifted fully to a private jb and mbuta kiss thing because of him remaining in europe
Did he study Jazz at a music academy? Or did he play alongside Jazz musicians to learn the genre? I always found that strange, because he never actually applied any of that into his music in Wenge or his solo albums.
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Aimelia saying that Koffi recruited Lebou because of Alain Makaba, but that's not true. Koffi didn't even know about Lebou, it's Rocky Blanchard who presented him to Koffi. His looks, the way of dressing and playing lead made people immediatly compare him to Alain Makaba when they started notice him after the release of Magie, while he was already around in QL just after Koweit Rive Gauche. Having already played on albums like Pas de Faux Pas & Noblesse Oblige.
Nobody noticed Lebou in 1993 ? Even if he was in the videos of Noblesse Oblige ?
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I think they (the three administrators plus Blaise and Aldophe) tolerated Makaba because of his strategic role of Artistic Director in the group. If he was just another singer they could have had him easily replaced during one of his to and fro trips in Europe away from the group.
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Aimelia saying that Koffi recruited Lebou because of Alain Makaba, but that's not true. Koffi didn't even know about Lebou, it's Rocky Blanchard who presented him to Koffi. His looks, the way of dressing and playing lead made people immediatly compare him to Alain Makaba when they started notice him after the release of Magie, while he was already around in QL just after Koweit Rive Gauche. Having already played on albums like Pas de Faux Pas & Noblesse Oblige.
Those Wengemen like to give themselves credit for everything.
I find it annoying.
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exactly makaba was like a marginal member of the group and funnily enough when he came back and wanted to use his authority it always created big clash,in 1991 1992 while he was in europe studying jazz wenge 4X4 arrived to do kin e bouger and the group almost splitted because of him insisting that everybody had to be paid,same thing in feux de l'amour same thing in titanic when he came to reclaim financial direction while it had shifted fully to a private jb and mbuta kiss thing because of him remaining in europe
I always say if Makaba remained in kin especially after the split him and Blaise wouldn’t have left so soon and we wouldn’t have ended up with Kibens, Rio and Chai, but he should’ve known better
Makaba should've taken control of the group in the early 90's to be honest. He should've been the Franco of Wenge.
He played himself by staying in Europe so much.
What the hell was he doing over there anyway? What a waste!
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Aimelia saying that Koffi recruited Lebou because of Alain Makaba, but that's not true. Koffi didn't even know about Lebou, it's Rocky Blanchard who presented him to Koffi. His looks, the way of dressing and playing lead made people immediatly compare him to Alain Makaba when they started notice him after the release of Magie, while he was already around in QL just after Koweit Rive Gauche. Having already played on albums like Pas de Faux Pas & Noblesse Oblige.
Those Wengemen like to give themselves credit for everything.
I find it annoying.
This is true. Even fans in general give Clan Wenge way too much credit for everything in my opinion.