Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on August 08, 2020, 13:25
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Like title says, i am worried with the situation happening between fally's camp and celeo,like we know fally himself remains silent like celeo does not even exist and celeo would hit back directly at fally for letting his guys attack him for years
recently coco dilaso one of fally's guys technicallythe specialist of all sorts of mission went on internet at franck stemay's show to attack celeo and among the stuff he used to attack celeo he used the fact years ago out of raw emotion after a match celeo said dieumerci mbokani not to come to national team again and said sorry to marlene mbokani,but your husband has to seek revenge by sleeping with celeo's mother knowing well celeo's mother died and he was there at burial as they were cool with fally at that time
celeo having enough of his family being targeted for fun,went to popol mopasula who is like a little brother to fally and start emission fairly well until he completely exploded and mentioned for the first time fally's wife
the interview was not released as popol could not risk his relationship while celeo insisted because he had more than enough
and on the other hand the coco interview was deleted but i am honestly worried about the future,i said during the lockdown i had a feeling it would get physical at some point and i am starting to believe it more and more
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Never ever mention a mans dead mother unless you want the hell beat out of you. If Fally really cared he would’ve told them to stop years ago. They need to leave Celeo alone and in turn he will leave them alone.
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i think people do not really realise it because celeo is not super succesful but the way he has been treated if it was the other way round many would be in jail or dead by now,i dont believe fally is genuinely such a bad person but he must show some authority especially knowing what it makes to lose your mother on tour,like celeo too,he has the capacity to stop all that in maximum one week
they can stick to music,people do not realise what celeo does is what for example an absolute legend like kester was doing,banter to stay relevant while he takes years to release,for example he'd mock koffi "ba misusu bakomi kolata ba soul na ba mbua na ba lapin"(the fancy versions derivated from the airforce shoes which were the thing at some point" or say koffi wemba or any artist never had a true disque d or,but it seems pro fally people take it very personal which is why they hit back too strong,and its even worse since some have understood its a way to attract western union transfers,maybe they will never ever see fally or any of the artists but they throw themselves into their business to go way too far
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The funny thing is Fally himself isn’t interested in all that and doesn’t care what Celeo says about him it’s his staff that take it personally and reply to be in favour. Fally and Celeo privately both love each other a lot but it’s people who get in the way of that.
I can’t believe all of this started over Celeo just kindly asking to borrow Fally’s car for a video.
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yes the interview with ado definitely showed the consideration celeo has for fally outside of what people see and think,i am was even surprised by the revelation that ferre told him to invite fally him jdt to his album if he leaves maison mere(which is yet again another conflict fuelled more by the spectators than the actors themselves)and getting mad over how celeo refused to participate on primus generique(which lead later to recruitment of kunzardo) as he did not want to allow maison mere to accelerate their process of getting rid of him by using his participation as a pretext
its also a shame older artists does not get much involved in reuniting their little brothers(maybe because themselves are also having their issues between each other)
my absolute dream would be our stars from koffi to even bebe ntshor uniting for a festival which funds would go to east ,without being seen gone to audience with politicians before, and asking for no money to perform
i am certain most of the combattants would be willing to be their bodyguards for european concerts for free but hey a big big big big dream almost a nightmare as it sounds so unreal
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The funny thing is Fally himself isn’t interested in all that and doesn’t care what Celeo says about him it’s his staff that take it personally and reply to be in favour. Fally and Celeo privately both love each other a lot but it’s people who get in the way of that.
I can’t believe all of this started over Celeo just kindly asking to borrow Fally’s car for a video.
Fally loves who? Why are you so pro Fally? Like Fally can't do no wrong? Fally istigates it is not the first time, with Heritier, Fabregas, and even Innoss B he never make the step of a big brother to go and talk to them. He is wasting his career Allo Telephone is an embarassment in confront to the Fally we used to know, he needs to stop acting like this because Congolese people (as YouTube showed) are fed up with him check the comments on Allo Telephone is mainly foreigners from Africa and some from Europe very little Congolese people comments
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lol manzambi kosilika te
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The funny thing is Fally himself isn’t interested in all that and doesn’t care what Celeo says about him it’s his staff that take it personally and reply to be in favour. Fally and Celeo privately both love each other a lot but it’s people who get in the way of that.
I can’t believe all of this started over Celeo just kindly asking to borrow Fally’s car for a video.
Fally loves who? Why are you so pro Fally? Like Fally can't do no wrong? Fally istigates it is not the first time, with Heritier, Fabregas, and even Innoss B he never make the step of a big brother to go and talk to them. He is wasting his career Allo Telephone is an embarassment in confront to the Fally we used to know, he needs to stop acting like this because Congolese people (as YouTube showed) are fed up with him check the comments on Allo Telephone is mainly foreigners from Africa and some from Europe very little Congolese people comments
Why are you getting so emotional again as usual. Archos just explained it all perfectly and we were having a civilised conversation and there’s you coming in here getting all upset and emotional again and read again who’s being pro Fally? I literally said he needs to tell his dogs to leave Celeo alone, I have people that are very close to Fally and he’s said himself he does love Celeo that’s how I know.
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lol manzambi kosilika te
Loool I actually do not get this guy eh, he just came for me for no reason, apparently me stating facts is making me pro Fally lol
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They are not emotions is just being honest for some people Fally it is like Jesus he can't do no wrong I can't deal with this, Fally does not know that people are taking shot at Celeo? Really? He is a baby that doesn't comprehend? Our music is dying for shit like this rather than focusing on music our musicians are focused on petty fights like little girls and Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Africans are getting opportunities. In the past Franco, Tabu Ley and many others had their beefs but they also had the capacity to influence Africa and Europe, Koffi is Koffi with all his strange behaviour but he made V12, Loi and other masterpieces, but Fally? What opera he has done? What album he played that influenced people? None why? Because he is focused on sending his petit to insult Celeo. Is like Micheal Jordan insulting D League players. Fally must wake up and focus on music these polemics ezanga tina will not make himgo nowhere. Innoss is the future
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They are not emotions is just being honest for some people Fally it is like Jesus he can't do no wrong I can't deal with this, Fally does not know that people are taking shot at Celeo? Really? He is a baby that doesn't comprehend? Our music is dying for shit like this rather than focusing on music our musicians are focused on petty fights like little girls and Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Africans are getting opportunities. In the past Franco, Tabu Ley and many others had their beefs but they also had the capacity to influence Africa and Europe, Koffi is Koffi with all his strange behaviour but he made V12, Loi and other masterpieces, but Fally? What opera he has done? What album he played that influenced people? None why? Because he is focused on sending his petit to insult Celeo. Is like Micheal Jordan insulting D League players. Fally must wake up and focus on music these polemics ezanga tina will not make himgo nowhere. Innoss is the future
Well Fally he made Droit Chemin which is considered one of the last classics before our music really went to pan and I remember I was in Paris at the time and loads of people were buying a copy of that album same with A2BM sooo, and you’re acting like people don’t come for Fally as well just admit you’re bias and you hate Fally and we can move on.
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I don't see how CM is pro Fally, I think Manzambi has too much hate for Fally which is not healthy cause anything positive said about him you explode, in your comment you make it sound like has never done anything good and that shows how emotional and hating you are lol. I think its best not to involve so much feelings in these musicians lives, if he is not focused let the focused ones take over. A lot of musicians fight each other, in some countries they go as far as killing each other....... Unity is important yes,but what matters is what you give to the market.
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:D
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Loool I can't stand you my fellow UK Brother ;D ;D
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Loool I can't stand you my fellow UK Brother ;D ;D
;D support our team Bana Wembley FC, we have a match tomorrow in Edmonton...our fb page: www.facebook.com/bana.wembleyfc.3
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May I have some of that popcorn tho, bruv ;D?
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;D ;D ;D
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Loool I can't stand you my fellow UK Brother ;D ;D
;D support our team Bana Wembley FC, we have a match tomorrow in Edmonton...our fb page: www.facebook.com/bana.wembleyfc.3
Hahaha wow JV you know what that’s a crazy coincidence my best friend is on the team Bana London, he asked me to come watch the game tomorrow but I’m unavailable. Good luck to you both :D
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Loool I can't stand you my fellow UK Brother ;D ;D
;D support our team Bana Wembley FC, we have a match tomorrow in Edmonton...our fb page: www.facebook.com/bana.wembleyfc.3
Hahaha wow JV you know what that’s a crazy coincidence my best friend is on the team Bana London, he asked me to come watch the game tomorrow but I’m unavailable. Good luck to you both :D
ahh ok...we playing them
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Well Fally he made Droit Chemin which is considered one of the last classics before our music really went to pan and I remember I was in Paris at the time and loads of people were buying a copy of that album same with A2BM sooo, and you’re acting like people don’t come for Fally as well just admit you’re bias and you hate Fally and we can move on.
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I don't see how CM is pro Fally, I think Manzambi has too much hate for Fally which is not healthy cause anything positive said about him you explode, in your comment you make it sound like has never done anything good and that shows how emotional and hating you are lol. I think its best not to involve so much feelings in these musicians lives, if he is not focused let the focused ones take over. A lot of musicians fight each other, in some countries they go as far as killing each other....... Unity is important yes,but what matters is what you give to the market.
Lol you guys Jeffrey and CM needs to chill with the word hate, if I criticize someone is hate? Lol when I left this forum I have seen a post of me hating Fabregas just because I criticize his last album
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/fabregas-and-cible/msg78690/?topicseen#msg78690
and the same with Werra
and now Fally lol.
Criticizing someone is not hating him check this right here on the link below they are lyrics of Libre Parcours generique vol 1 and 3 and guess who took the time to listen to those songs and translate it fully even giving meaning and all that? Myself
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/libre-parcours-1-f'victeam-(lyrics-and-explanation)
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/libre-parcours-3-f'victeam-(lyrics-and-explanation)/
And guess who call Libre Parcours #3 a lowkey classic? Nooooo way that's me on November of last year.
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Oooo my God check the first comments is Jeffrey commenting no wayyyy I thought Manzambi was a Fally hater how could he give Fally so much positive feedbacks on his songs if he hated him?
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/i-think-that-lowkey-this-is-one-of-fally's-classic/msg76316/#msg76316
Wow Manzambi even calling them three generique classic this guy must hate El Mara for real
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And no way Manzambi saying that he doesn't like Innoss'B song and the fact that he doesn't like he is dissing Fally om 70% of the song
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/innoss'b-olandi-(official-clip)/msg88500/#msg88500
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Oh also Matebu asking me why I thought that Libre Parcours #2 was the best generique ever and the best ever made by Fally
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/my-review-of-fallys-new-album-tokooos/msg51927/#msg51927
All these are signs of a very hateful person towards the likes of Fally, Manzambi really must have hate for the Aigle
No wayyy Manzambi even translated Elok'Oyo?
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/fally-ipupa-elok'oyo-(lyrics-and-explanation)/
With that said and this must be the last time you call me a hater of anyone, criticizing someone doesn't mean hate but is actually loving the person, if you don't care about someone even if he threatens to jump from the Balcony you will let him go, but if you care about him or her you will stop him and try to avoid the dangerous things he is doing, Fally is going to that direction he is beefing with guys like Innoss (who is even younger than me) and Celeo (who have had his time in Maison Mere but he is very low on the success scale compared to Fally) forgeting to produce the quality music (for me generiques since I still think he is the best at making it along with Werra, JB and whem Koffi wants Koffi) that we expected him to see. Allo Telephone is a crappy single and if those are the results of beefing with Celeo and Innoss man leave it at that.
CM and Jeffrey you are the Fally's version of POLE POSITION whatever Fally does or says he is an Angel and can't do no wrong, but these are the type of behaviours that make an artist not grow
And going back to Fally loving Celeo, would you be proud if someone close to you said those things about somebody's dead mom? I don't think so.
And this must be the last time you call me the hater of someone because I haven't got time nor space to fill mt heart with hate of a human beimg accept to deal with criticism of your favourite artists instead of calling everyome who disagree with you a hater
http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/god-kabuya-is-incredible/msg76493/#msg76493
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Okay since we’re doing the whole pulling up receipts
LOL That Innoss B Olandi post you just literally edited that today when the post is 11 days old just to make yourself look clean so try again
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I’m really not Fally’s Pole Position I just think the way you criticise artists is over the top. Aren’t you the one that always says you don’t like Fally but you’re a Ferre fan?
And you need to stop with that whole “you’re this artists Pole Position” talk because I’m really not I’m far from it, but if I’m Fally’s pole position then you’re Innoss B’s Pole position cause you’re can never make a post or comment without ever mentioning him. I’ve said numerous times how I hated allo téléphone, Tokoss, École, I can go on.
Just because you translate someone’s song or saying it’s his best Generique doesn’t mean a thing you can still hate or dislike that artist
You’re the one that says Fally’s a baby and if you had the chance you’d smack him so what’s that then? I’ve never ever seen you bring the same energy to Ferre or your artist Innoss
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*Drops the mic*
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From my understanding and i might be surely wrong manzambi is having the case many people are having with fally
i am a huge lover of comments everywhere and i have noticed evergrowing list of people who i know talked positive a lot of fally some who even attacked people to protect fally but are starting to go very harsh not because of fally the musician but they mix the system we see around the name of fally on internet and fally's apparent silence which insinuates he loves the system,and fally himself the artist,so the emotion tends to take over,its a really tricky situation and if people can remember it happened aswell to artists who had a similar system in the past i dont want to say names but if you want an indication for example one is a massive superstar the other is his "children",both had in the last 10 years received strong backlash over the system which ended up being used to actually have negative view on everything they do as soon as they breath until they started dropping a bit of that system and started regaining sympathy from those people who turned harsh
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
Celeo is not jealous of Fally, the only thing we can see is Fally is a hypocrite who believes he should be the only one people outside of Congo mention when naming the best artists from our country. He wants to be the only one who does big numbers and when someone else does it oh it’s fake bla bla...Pathetic. Yes he has told us his problem with Fally, you just haven’t been listening just like most Fally’s fan who like to jump on the bandwagon of dissing Celeo without really understanding the issue.
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
brother once again,i am not on your back but i would have loved to see you at least condemn attacks on celeo's family it would not change anything in preferring fally over celeo,like you say he attacks fally over music and lifestyle and i said already i can understand some people does not have the heart to support it when they like their favourite artists not just fally,but imagine for one second celeo was doing even just 1/10 of what people say IN THE NAME OF FALLY which efandjo can easily cut himself by saying NALINGI LISUSU TE BO FINGA BATU PONA NGA PO BOZO PESA ACCES BA SALIR NGA naza sur olingaki oyina celeo susu koleka fort soki amekaki ko kota na carré ya oh papa ipupa boye,maman monique bolotuli boye,bony liston boye,tyna boye,marcossis boye,keyna boye,vicenzo boye,malka monikel boye,jaden boye,na muana suka kutu MJ oyo mokili eyebi nanu te boye
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i was just about to post innoss b talking calmly about his issues with fally,without insulting him without openly disrespecting him,even saying that back in the days in fally's early solo career when fally arrived in goma he was among kids running after the car trying to touch him ... but ba makambo oyo ya oh acharnement pardon mbadi
If some want to look at that interview they can check charlie prince's youtube channel cactus tv la tele de l'excellence
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
Celeo is not jealous of Fally, the only thing we can see is Fally is a hypocrite who believes he should be the only one people outside of Congo mention when naming the best artists from our country. He wants to be the only one who does big numbers and when someone else does it oh it’s fake bla bla...Pathetic. Yes he has told us his problem with Fally, you just haven’t been listening just like most Fally’s fan who like to jump on the bandwagon of dissing Celeo without really understanding the issue.
You dont to come here say Fally is hypocrite, give me just two example what Fally did to make you say all of that.
Please dont say he did this or that off camera, tell me what Fally did say or do on camera, because this all false off cam are just pure lie.
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ndeko lets take this issue out of fally's name,their situation is not something invented by celeo and fally it existed before them and will surely exist 3 generations after them
tolongola ata kombo ya fally,tozua koffi jb na werra,koffi ye moko a geraka ba polemique na ye na batu ye moko alors retombee eyaka vers ye moko majoritairement,jb na werra bazalaka na ba sankara et les autres bango moko ba vandi silence,alors comment okondima que baza na responsabilite moko direct tangu bango moko balobaka te soki ozo tala kaka makambu na logique,to na sentiment sans ko soupconner que discours indirect pe ezalaka
c'est le meme cas entre autre entre el mara na celeo,et ndenge kaka na lobaka mbala na mbala fally aza na pouvoir akatisa batu koloba na kombo na ye po etikala penza que silence total ya solo ezala te neti tindika tia cale ndenge tomonaka par exemple na makambu ya wenge
tu vois?
d autres parts tala penza bien banda ba franco ti lelo ezalaka toujours les meilleurs mutu bazalaka reputé na caractere ya mabe
ezala ya solo to te elataka bango kaka d'une maniere ou d'une autre et mingi mingi bayebaka pe ko lakisa contraire te
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Okay since we’re doing the whole pulling up receipts
LOL That Innoss B Olandi post you just literally edited that today when the post is 11 days old just to make yourself look clean so try again
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I’m really not Fally’s Pole Position I just think the way you criticise artists is over the top. Aren’t you the one that always says you don’t like Fally but you’re a Ferre fan?
And you need to stop with that whole “you’re this artists Pole Position” talk because I’m really not I’m far from it, but if I’m Fally’s pole position then you’re Innoss B’s Pole position cause you’re can never make a post or comment without ever mentioning him. I’ve said numerous times how I hated allo téléphone, Tokoss, École, I can go on.
Just because you translate someone’s song or saying it’s his best Generique doesn’t mean a thing you can still hate or dislike that artist
You’re the one that says Fally’s a baby and if you had the chance you’d smack him so what’s that then? I’ve never ever seen you bring the same energy to Ferre or your artist Innoss
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Yes. You are still Fally's POLE POSITION at least POLE POSITION has the courage to admit it, and even after all these evidences of me supporting Fally when he actually made great music you are convinced of your claims I can't argue with you because is useless. At least Jeffrey had the intelligence to not answer back but you are getting roasted and UOENO it. Keep riding Fally's D once you will be personally attack over your parents or someone you care about you will give me the reason.
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
Celeo is not jealous of Fally, the only thing we can see is Fally is a hypocrite who believes he should be the only one people outside of Congo mention when naming the best artists from our country. He wants to be the only one who does big numbers and when someone else does it oh it’s fake bla bla...Pathetic. Yes he has told us his problem with Fally, you just haven’t been listening just like most Fally’s fan who like to jump on the bandwagon of dissing Celeo without really understanding the issue.
You dont to come here say Fally is hypocrite, give me just two example what Fally did to make you say all of that.
Please dont say he did this or that off camera, tell me what Fally did say or do on camera, because this all false off cam are just pure lie.
Pointless, you're into too deep. I’m not going to write an essay for you to make you understand. It’s clear you just started following Congolese music and not aware of a lot interviews and things said directly by the artists themselves...sorry naza na temp wana te, so continue to think Celeo is mad and jealous of Fally and Fally is innocent and doesn’t send people to insult others. Case close
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manzambi please makambu oyo te pardon yo na prince botia na se
he condemned insulting celeo too,maybe he does not understand your style of talking at times,because i have seen you talk the same about your favourite artist werra too(lol you gotta know italian people to understand they are passionate naturally)
eza nango makambu ya ko ride soki nini te,calma
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
brother once again,i am not on your back but i would have loved to see you at least condemn attacks on celeo's family it would not change anything in preferring fally over celeo,like you say he attacks fally over music and lifestyle and i said already i can understand some people does not have the heart to support it when they like their favourite artists not just fally,but imagine for one second celeo was doing even just 1/10 of what people say IN THE NAME OF FALLY which efandjo can easily cut himself by saying NALINGI LISUSU TE BO FINGA BATU PONA NGA PO BOZO PESA ACCES BA SALIR NGA naza sur olingaki oyina celeo susu koleka fort soki amekaki ko kota na carré ya oh papa ipupa boye,maman monique bolotuli boye,bony liston boye,tyna boye,marcossis boye,keyna boye,vicenzo boye,malka monikel boye,jaden boye,na muana suka kutu MJ oyo mokili eyebi nanu te boye
Dont worry about that, even if you are on my back wont mean anything. We are in forum we come to talk about our favoury thing, music. I really dont think someone come here just to attack or insult people, Peace.
eteya biso.
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
Celeo is not jealous of Fally, the only thing we can see is Fally is a hypocrite who believes he should be the only one people outside of Congo mention when naming the best artists from our country. He wants to be the only one who does big numbers and when someone else does it oh it’s fake bla bla...Pathetic. Yes he has told us his problem with Fally, you just haven’t been listening just like most Fally’s fan who like to jump on the bandwagon of dissing Celeo without really understanding the issue.
You dont to come here say Fally is hypocrite, give me just two example what Fally did to make you say all of that.
Please dont say he did this or that off camera, tell me what Fally did say or do on camera, because this all false off cam are just pure lie.
Pointless, you're into too deep. I’m not going to write an essay for you to make you understand. It’s clear you just started following Congolese music and not aware of a lot interviews and things said directly by the artists themselves...sorry naza na temp wana te, so continue to think Celeo is mad and jealous of Fally and Fally is innocent and doesn’t send people to insult others. Case close
Okay.
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Do really people here believe Celeo is the victim and Fally the perpetrator?
If you ask 10 people outside this forum all of them will tell you Celeo is jealous of Fally, everyone can see that outside here.
Why not if Fally is doing Celeo some bad things off camera, why Celeo do the same off camera why bringing it on camera?
Why Celeo always attacking fally for his music, house, money, cars why?
If Fally really did something bad to him, he need to come on tv (like he likes to do.) and tell all of us so we all can hate Fally like he does, otherwise he need to keep it between them two don't come on tv doing some side pick to Fally.
If I have to tell Fally something, I will say this "Keep thing like it is now dont do anything dont talk about him, if you say something it is going to make it even worse. Remember this year you had release two records those records are doing better than any artiste musician Congolese release this year on YouTube both records have more than 5M vue, are doing better on streaming, you just been play Bercy. So, if someone try to tell you finish just ask that person who is doing better than you and in which way is doing better, today you are the best tomorrow could be someone else will be someone because nothing is forever, but now you the best."
brother once again,i am not on your back but i would have loved to see you at least condemn attacks on celeo's family it would not change anything in preferring fally over celeo,like you say he attacks fally over music and lifestyle and i said already i can understand some people does not have the heart to support it when they like their favourite artists not just fally,but imagine for one second celeo was doing even just 1/10 of what people say IN THE NAME OF FALLY which efandjo can easily cut himself by saying NALINGI LISUSU TE BO FINGA BATU PONA NGA PO BOZO PESA ACCES BA SALIR NGA naza sur olingaki oyina celeo susu koleka fort soki amekaki ko kota na carré ya oh papa ipupa boye,maman monique bolotuli boye,bony liston boye,tyna boye,marcossis boye,keyna boye,vicenzo boye,malka monikel boye,jaden boye,na muana suka kutu MJ oyo mokili eyebi nanu te boye
I dont think you did undestand what I am trying to say, what I am saying is this " I never ever see Fally talk bad about Celeo, I only see Celeo talk negative about Fally. why you want me to condemn something I did not see, like almost all Congele only see Celeo talk bad to Fally"
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If you read the original post, i explained that somebody close and recognized clearly as a fally employee attacked celeo on family level and is probably the 50th to have done it
i fully understand the point you want to make but going by that logic,if celeo also decides that he will never anymore talk directly of fally but instead will allow people to do it in his name so that it does not come from his mouth,so you'll consider that celeo is not jealous of fally anymore if he does not talk about him anymore but still allows to people to say exactly the same things he says?
since your doubt about fally's camp comes from the fact fally himself does not speak while celeo does
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ndeko lets take this issue out of fally's name,their situation is not something invented by celeo and fally it existed before them and will surely exist 3 generations after them
tolongola ata kombo ya fally,tozua koffi jb na werra,koffi ye moko a geraka ba polemique na ye na batu ye moko alors retombee eyaka vers ye moko majoritairement,jb na werra bazalaka na ba sankara et les autres bango moko ba vandi silence,alors comment okondima que baza na responsabilite moko direct tangu bango moko balobaka te soki ozo tala kaka makambu na logique,to na sentiment sans ko soupconner que discours indirect pe ezalaka
c'est le meme cas entre autre entre el mara na celeo,et ndenge kaka na lobaka mbala na mbala fally aza na pouvoir akatisa batu koloba na kombo na ye po etikala penza que silence total ya solo ezala te neti tindika tia cale ndenge tomonaka par exemple na makambu ya wenge
tu vois?
d autres parts tala penza bien banda ba franco ti lelo ezalaka toujours les meilleurs mutu bazalaka reputé na caractere ya mabe
ezala ya solo to te elataka bango kaka d'une maniere ou d'une autre et mingi mingi bayebaka pe ko lakisa contraire te
Olobi bien, JB, Werra na Koffi. Ngai nanu namona te JB abandi ko atake ezalak kaka Koffi mutu abandaka sima aleli victim.
Celeo azali ndenge moko na Koffi kasi sa Lumpemba lokola Koffi.
Soki batu ya Fally fingi ye, ye pe atinda batu na ye bafinga Fally soki alingi ye moko nde azongisa na batu oyo ya Fally bayaki ko finga ye, kasi Fally te.
Yo nde olingi kondimate ke Celeo azali matumboli, ye bisa ngai Manda asalaki ye nini po aya kobanda kofinga ye, meme Heritien alobaki tango bazalaki na WMM ba musicians mingi bazalaki kolobisa Celeo te.
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Okay since we’re doing the whole pulling up receipts
LOL That Innoss B Olandi post you just literally edited that today when the post is 11 days old just to make yourself look clean so try again
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I’m really not Fally’s Pole Position I just think the way you criticise artists is over the top. Aren’t you the one that always says you don’t like Fally but you’re a Ferre fan?
And you need to stop with that whole “you’re this artists Pole Position” talk because I’m really not I’m far from it, but if I’m Fally’s pole position then you’re Innoss B’s Pole position cause you’re can never make a post or comment without ever mentioning him. I’ve said numerous times how I hated allo téléphone, Tokoss, École, I can go on.
Just because you translate someone’s song or saying it’s his best Generique doesn’t mean a thing you can still hate or dislike that artist
You’re the one that says Fally’s a baby and if you had the chance you’d smack him so what’s that then? I’ve never ever seen you bring the same energy to Ferre or your artist Innoss
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*Drops the mic*
Yes. You are still Fally's POLE POSITION at least POLE POSITION has the courage to admit it, and even after all these evidences of me supporting Fally when he actually made great music you are convinced of your claims I can't argue with you because is useless. At least Jeffrey had the intelligence to not answer back but you are getting roasted and UOENO it. Keep riding Fally's D once you will be personally attack over your parents or someone you care about you will give me the reason.
Manzambi94, Bro please leave me out of your argument. I was here to defend Ferre to the end as this forum became one of the platform being used to destroy Ferre and was here to expose. I was always pointing out things from exposing the Vincent Tshiluizi's clan (I was the 1st one who mentioned it here and Archos was like oooh no they don't work for Fally) at the end the truth came out.
I will just say don't waste your time with the Wangila cause if a grown man can inluence others not to watch others music 1st time we are seing it on our music then you know whatever you say to this person is a waste as they are on a cult and whatever the leader say they will act look at Mwana Nsemi kie kie but we are enjoying yhe show
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ndeko lets take this issue out of fally's name,their situation is not something invented by celeo and fally it existed before them and will surely exist 3 generations after them
tolongola ata kombo ya fally,tozua koffi jb na werra,koffi ye moko a geraka ba polemique na ye na batu ye moko alors retombee eyaka vers ye moko majoritairement,jb na werra bazalaka na ba sankara et les autres bango moko ba vandi silence,alors comment okondima que baza na responsabilite moko direct tangu bango moko balobaka te soki ozo tala kaka makambu na logique,to na sentiment sans ko soupconner que discours indirect pe ezalaka
c'est le meme cas entre autre entre el mara na celeo,et ndenge kaka na lobaka mbala na mbala fally aza na pouvoir akatisa batu koloba na kombo na ye po etikala penza que silence total ya solo ezala te neti tindika tia cale ndenge tomonaka par exemple na makambu ya wenge
tu vois?
d autres parts tala penza bien banda ba franco ti lelo ezalaka toujours les meilleurs mutu bazalaka reputé na caractere ya mabe
ezala ya solo to te elataka bango kaka d'une maniere ou d'une autre et mingi mingi bayebaka pe ko lakisa contraire te
Olobi bien, JB, Werra na Koffi. Ngai nanu namona te JB abandi ko atake ezalak kaka Koffi mutu abandaka sima aleli victim.
Celeo azali ndenge moko na Koffi kasi sa Lumpemba lokola Koffi.
Soki batu ya Fally fingi ye, ye pe atinda batu na ye bafinga Fally soki alingi ye moko nde azongisa na batu oyo ya Fally bayaki ko finga ye, kasi Fally te.
Yo nde olingi kondimate ke Celeo azali matumboli, ye bisa ngai Manda asalaki ye nini po aya kobanda kofinga ye, meme Heritien alobaki tango bazalaki na WMM ba musicians mingi bazalaki kolobisa Celeo te.
mais ndeko nalobaka yango que celeo aza matumboli et c est connu mais sauf que matumboli na ye ezalaka ya motema mabe te la preuve ba pire ye na ba artistes baza batu moko tres tres calme et c est connu na pesa meme exemple ya kester oyo azalaki pe bongo,la preuve meme ya quadra batu mosusu pe ba defendaka que ezalaka nde pesa elengi pona promotion mais azalaka rancunier te tu vois?eza na sens wana et je comprend que eza supportable na tout le monde te ndenge pe misusu bayina koffi makasi likolo ya simple matumboli tout comme misusu ba comprena que ahh vieux wana eza ndenge na ye soki album ezo bima il faut mua pesa elengi
Nga naza na probleme ni na fally ni na n importe quel artiste au contraire reve na nga ezalaka bazala bomoko
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If you read the original post, i explained that somebody close and recognized clearly as a fally employee attacked celeo on family level and is probably the 50th to have done it
i fully understand the point you want to make but going by that logic,if celeo also decides that he will never anymore talk directly of fally but instead will allow people to do it in his name so that it does not come from his mouth,so you'll consider that celeo is not jealous of fally anymore if he does not talk about him anymore but still allows to people to say exactly the same things he says?
since your doubt about fally's camp comes from the fact fally himself does not speak while celeo does
JB, Werra even Ferre all do that, Celeo doesnt know need every day to come out to those problems. All that problems do not help his carrier, but he helps Fally carrier just look since they started it who is more beneficial. Why almost everyone call Celeo jealous?
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because he is the one who talks on that side you are right,but motema ya mutu eza motema ya mutu ndeko ce nest pas tout le monde qui tolere makambu mosusu
it is true that he gives impression that responding to attacks makes him lose time to focus on music,but at the same time it can be seen that sometimes he makes 3 months without appearance yet they still attack him everyday so he ends up coming back again
like i said he refuses to let people deal with his problem,which is not the case of most other artists who have people who can talk for them all year while they live their life
in the art of marketing anybody can decide what they want to give as image,which is why some artists are seen as fake
for me marketing is in essence fake anyway,science mobimba ata oza na kwiti ya pongi il faut oseka liboso ya batu po opesa image ya bien
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ndeko lets take this issue out of fally's name,their situation is not something invented by celeo and fally it existed before them and will surely exist 3 generations after them
tolongola ata kombo ya fally,tozua koffi jb na werra,koffi ye moko a geraka ba polemique na ye na batu ye moko alors retombee eyaka vers ye moko majoritairement,jb na werra bazalaka na ba sankara et les autres bango moko ba vandi silence,alors comment okondima que baza na responsabilite moko direct tangu bango moko balobaka te soki ozo tala kaka makambu na logique,to na sentiment sans ko soupconner que discours indirect pe ezalaka
c'est le meme cas entre autre entre el mara na celeo,et ndenge kaka na lobaka mbala na mbala fally aza na pouvoir akatisa batu koloba na kombo na ye po etikala penza que silence total ya solo ezala te neti tindika tia cale ndenge tomonaka par exemple na makambu ya wenge
tu vois?
d autres parts tala penza bien banda ba franco ti lelo ezalaka toujours les meilleurs mutu bazalaka reputé na caractere ya mabe
ezala ya solo to te elataka bango kaka d'une maniere ou d'une autre et mingi mingi bayebaka pe ko lakisa contraire te
Olobi bien, JB, Werra na Koffi. Ngai nanu namona te JB abandi ko atake ezalak kaka Koffi mutu abandaka sima aleli victim.
Celeo azali ndenge moko na Koffi kasi sa Lumpemba lokola Koffi.
Soki batu ya Fally fingi ye, ye pe atinda batu na ye bafinga Fally soki alingi ye moko nde azongisa na batu oyo ya Fally bayaki ko finga ye, kasi Fally te.
Yo nde olingi kondimate ke Celeo azali matumboli, ye bisa ngai Manda asalaki ye nini po aya kobanda kofinga ye, meme Heritien alobaki tango bazalaki na WMM ba musicians mingi bazalaki kolobisa Celeo te.
mais ndeko nalobaka yango que celeo aza matumboli et c est connu mais sauf que matumboli na ye ezalaka ya motema mabe te la preuve ba pire ye na ba artistes baza batu moko tres tres calme et c est connu na pesa meme exemple ya kester oyo azalaki pe bongo,la preuve meme ya quadra batu mosusu pe ba defendaka que ezalaka nde pesa elengi pona promotion mais azalaka rancunier te tu vois?eza na sens wana et je comprend que eza supportable na tout le monde te ndenge pe misusu bayina koffi makasi likolo ya simple matumboli tout comme misusu ba comprena que ahh vieux wana eza ndenge na ye soki album ezo bima il faut mua pesa elengi
Nga naza na probleme ni na fally ni na n importe quel artiste au contraire reve na nga ezalaka bazala bomoko
Ngai nazali fan ya Fally te nayebi kutu ata nzembo naye moko te, bientôt nakokokisa 70 ans koko na ngai ya liboso azali 24 ans nakoki kozala fan naye te.
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nayebi pere,nalobaki bongo kaka na titre ya exemple na ndenge ya mabe
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I do not argue to win,thank you. you have made me see this from a different point of view so I admit I was wrong on that one.
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People are still running with the "Fally is a saint, he loves everyone but it's his bad entourage acting by itself " narrative? Ah ah ah
One of Fally's henchmen attacked Celeo late mother in the most disgusting way and people still find the energy to try to turn it into a 'You hate Fally' type of situation? LOL.
I encourage Fally and his people to keep acting like that...
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People are still running with the "Fally is a saint, he loves everyone but it's his bad entourage acting by itself " narrative? Ah ah ah
One of Fally's henchmen attacked Celeo late mother in the most disgusting way and people still find the energy to try to turn it into a 'You hate Fally' type of situation? LOL.
I encourage Fally and his people to keep acting like that...
I’m tired of you guys tryna twist my words where did I say Fally was a saint?
The first thing I LITERALLY said was Fally and his entourage should get their ass beat if they’re gonna mention a mans dead mother and that they need to leave Celeo alone, but obviously you guys except for Archos and Jeffrey chose to ignore.
Same thing when Fally’s goons attacked Celeo at Tutu’s party I said they should get what’s coming to them.
It’s not just me even Archos has said in the past that he’s heard Fally and Celeo still love each other privately but no one questioned him or attacked him for saying it but when it’s me apparently I’m his yes man.
Celeo has even said both his and Fally’s kids are still close to each other and so are their sisters and he still considers Fally a friend he just has to defend himself, which any person shouldn’t find a problem with.
I’ve even said numerous times if Fally isn’t involved like he acts like then any normal person would get rid of that entourage, but he clearly is.
And name one time I condone what’s happening with Celeo because I really don’t (yes he can be annoying) but he doesn’t deserve all the BS he’s been put through by Fally and MM including their fans.
And Once again SHOUT OUT TO CELEO for mentioning my late uncle Dekwani Nakoma in his interview with Ado Yuhe the other day, his wife (my aunt) and kids were really touched to hear you say his name, much respect.
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People are still running with the "Fally is a saint, he loves everyone but it's his bad entourage acting by itself " narrative? Ah ah ah
One of Fally's henchmen attacked Celeo late mother in the most disgusting way and people still find the energy to try to turn it into a 'You hate Fally' type of situation? LOL.
I encourage Fally and his people to keep acting like that...
I’m tired of you guys tryna twist my words where did I say Fally was a saint?
The first thing I LITERALLY said was Fally and his entourage should get their ass beat if they’re gonna mention a mans dead mother and that they need to leave Celeo alone, but obviously you guys except for Archos and Jeffrey chose to ignore.
Same thing when Fally’s goons attacked Celeo at Tutu’s party I said they should get what’s coming to them.
It’s not just me even Archos has said in the past that he’s heard Fally and Celeo still love each other privately but no one questioned him or attacked him for saying it but when it’s me apparently I’m his yes man.
Celeo has even said both his and Fally’s kids are still close to each other and so are their sisters and he still considers Fally a friend he just has to defend himself, which any person shouldn’t find a problem with.
I’ve even said numerous times if Fally isn’t involved like he acts like then any normal person would get rid of that entourage, but he clearly is.
And name one time I condone what’s happening with Celeo because I really don’t (yes he can be annoying) but he doesn’t deserve all the BS he’s been put through by Fally and MM including their fans.
And Once again SHOUT OUT TO CELEO for mentioning my late uncle Dekwani Nakoma in his interview with Ado Yuhe the other day, his wife (my aunt) and kids were really touched to hear you say his name, much respect.
Fam, I'm not attacking you.
I'm just saying that the Fally loves Celeo idea is not believable anymore.