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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: CM PRINCE on September 02, 2020, 16:05

Title: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: CM PRINCE on September 02, 2020, 16:05
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEkFj15HHDj/?igshid=1g257tmau0gxj
Like the title says damnnnn, they definitely went off and had fun once the interview was over just look at the way she’s looking at him and getting close to him even after. I don’t even remember her name but this was a few years ago.
It reminds me of an interview with Papa Wemba when he kissed the journalist.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 02, 2020, 16:22
 i was actually thinking about that girl few times ago but i could not remember her name,she retired from interviewing people after story/rumour that when she went to kinshasa she slept with the dog of a powerful minister in exchange of 10K or something like that
and apparently a video was about to pop out and out of shame she disappeared
lol there is also an interview of reddy with  a journalist where she was looking at him like she wants to kiss him,and another of koffi drunk and a making clear hints that the girl is not going anywhere after interview hahaha
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: SoukousFan on September 02, 2020, 19:42
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEkFj15HHDj/?igshid=1g257tmau0gxj
Like the title says damnnnn, they definitely went off and had fun once the interview was over just look at the way she’s looking at him and getting close to him even after. I don’t even remember her name but this was a few years ago.
It reminds me of an interview with Papa Wemba when he kissed the journalist.

I am still looking for that Papa Wemba interview. The lady looked shocked but composed herself for the camera .... and Wemba just stood there like nothing happened.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: SoukousFan on September 02, 2020, 19:43
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEkFj15HHDj/?igshid=1g257tmau0gxj
Like the title says damnnnn, they definitely went off and had fun once the interview was over just look at the way she’s looking at him and getting close to him even after. I don’t even remember her name but this was a few years ago.
It reminds me of an interview with Papa Wemba when he kissed the journalist.
I am sure Nana has seen this already ...
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 02, 2020, 20:08
https://youtu.be/WtR7lAZoGc4

HAHAHA he was ice cool like nothing happened
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 02, 2020, 20:43
I am pretty sure  nana or any of the wives of our stars have their share of pain about infidelity,i saw days ago a video of arafat's best friend saying one of the first thing he did when arafat died was to completely destroy his phone because it had hella nudes of women and sextapes of him including with married women and if somebody got hold it it could have created big scandal
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 02, 2020, 21:11
I am pretty sure  nana or any of the wives of our stars have their share of pain about infidelity,i saw days ago a video of arafat's best friend saying one of the first thing he did when arafat died was to completely destroy his phone because it had hella nudes of women and sextapes of him including with married women and if somebody got hold it it could have created big scandal

He shouldn't have do it, I wanted to see those tapes, and to be honest fake, money and especially power can give you everything, the religious girl who read the Bible everyday she will loose herself with a Starz the married loving wife with three children? She will be single again if you are a star, it is sad and also astonishing how people and especially women view stardok and respect it
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 02, 2020, 21:17
https://youtu.be/WtR7lAZoGc4

HAHAHA he was ice cool like nothing happened

Wasn't it the same video, where that girl came out a cemetery as intro?


This video created problems within Wemba's family, his children and wife being mad against him, after the 1000000th scandal. Wemba and close friendshaving had to calm them down, etc. The video created alot of buzz on social media, but on a negative way.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 02, 2020, 21:21
https://youtu.be/WtR7lAZoGc4

HAHAHA he was ice cool like nothing happened

Wasn't it the same video, where that girl came out a cemetery as intro?


This video created problems within Wemba's family, his children and wife being mad against him, after the 1000000th scandal. Wemba and close friendshaving had to calm them down, etc. The video created alot of buzz on social media, but on a negative way.


Still to this day I don't understand how Wemba could keep a clean image until his death and beyond,
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 02, 2020, 21:46
Wemba hadn't a clean image. His image was messed up with the ngulu-affaire, the Western press starting to humilate him on the newpapers. After that it became worser with the documentary BBC made about him "Le Roi de la Sape" with people who used to steal expensive clothes for him. Then in 2008, he humilated himself by proudly saying that Liliane Muanga (ex'wife of Emeneya) used to be girlfriend before becoming Emeneya's wife and Emeneya replying that Wemba started to get her during the Maisha-days for spiritual reason to finish him (his staffmember Chikito Mushashino indirectly confirmed it without knowing it after Emeneya's death, saying that he & Wemba tried to look get in contact with Liliane. Wemba himself also saying it in an interview with Papy Mboma after Emeneya's death saying "sometimes it happen that people fall in love with the same person"). etc. and that many former musicians of his band and staff aren't going forward in their life, because of Wemba fucking with their wives and also using their sperm for his fame, etc. From that moment, people started to watch differently to Wemba, then in 2009  Alpatshino died, people accusing him to have sent Julie Mulanga (ex'fioti fioti dancers and wife of Alpatshino) who he used to date to poison him. People started to hate Wemba from that moment. Then from 2014-2016 he became the most hated bandleader of Kinshasa, when Emeneya died (Emeneya having made multiple interviews that Koffi Olomide & Papa Wemba fucked with his wife, trying to destabilize his band and in private also saying that Koffi, Wemba & Tshala Muana poisned him after the Maisha-Parc scandal which made him get heart-problems) being forbidden to participate to Emeneya's funeral along with Koffi and Wemba being sad about that, which made him record the song Blessure. Then when Wemba died in 2016, people forgot all those scandals quickly and he got the respect back that he lost in the last 15 years of his life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-guQBCy8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vRKDdjB9U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuDtmHXXXk
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 02, 2020, 22:26
Wemba hadn't a clean image. His image was messed up with the ngulu-affaire, the Western press starting to humilate him on the newpapers. After that it became worser with the documentary BBC made about him "Le Roi de la Sape" with people who used to steal expensive clothes for him. Then in 2008, he humilated himself by proudly saying that Liliane Muanga (ex'wife of Emeneya) used to be girlfriend before becoming Emeneya's wife and Emeneya replying that Wemba started to get her during the Maisha-days for spiritual reason to finish him (his staffmember Chikito Mushashino indirectly confirmed it without knowing it after Emeneya's death, saying that he & Wemba tried to look get in contact with Liliane. Wemba himself also saying it in an interview with Papy Mboma after Emeneya's death saying "sometimes it happen that people fall in love with the same person"). etc. and that many former musicians of his band and staff aren't going forward in their life, because of Wemba fucking with their wives and also using their sperm for his fame, etc. From that moment, people started to watch differently to Wemba, then in 2009  Alpatshino died, people accusing him to have sent Julie Mulanga (ex'fioti fioti dancers and wife of Alpatshino) who he used to date to poison him. People started to hate Wemba from that moment. Then from 2014-2016 he became the most hated bandleader of Kinshasa, when Emeneya died (Emeneya having made multiple interviews that Koffi Olomide & Papa Wemba fucked with his wife, trying to destabilize his band and in private also saying that Koffi, Wemba & Tshala Muana poisned him after the Maisha-Parc scandal which made him get heart-problems) being forbidden to participate to Emeneya's funeral along with Koffi and Wemba being sad about that, which made him record the song Blessure. Then when Wemba died in 2016, people forgot all those scandals quickly and he got the respect back that he lost in the last 15 years of his life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-guQBCy8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vRKDdjB9U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuDtmHXXXk

yeah death changes a lot of things in congo,by the way ndeko do you know the name of that girl again and do you remember that story on labouche back then about  her sleeping with a dog for mende or somebody like that and going back to france with big money and the girl suddenly disappearing
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 02, 2020, 23:08
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on September 02, 2020, 23:19
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974

why would i want my dog to fuck you when i can do that myself ;D
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 02, 2020, 23:40
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974



I didn't knew about the dogs thing but there is a big business in Dubai for Instagram models from all over the world to getting pooped on in their body or eat the poop from rich Arab oil business man, this is why you see so many Instagram models who have little to zero known real fsme having all those extravant and luxurious vacations so even though is disgusting and shocking the dog sex thing is not really surprising knowing how many times Congolese musicians surprised us

https://youtu.be/3UITD7ikQr8


https://youtu.be/cKTO8j9Q2-s

But to be completely honest, I have never knew Zoophilia existed in Congolese music, to be honest I can understand the fame and everything but as a human being sometimes you must ask yourself if the things you are doing are worth your dignity, and for homosexuality in Congolese music is evident, check Kasumbalesa, Gipson, Iniesta, Abraham Mignon, Ceden Play, Identitè, Eclipse, Sabalo, Levitique (Conq Chantier) Papa Libumu (the Robinio dancer with the big belly), Bapince, Cascadeur (Wazekwa's Atalaku) and many other Atalakus and Singers don't look like they are gay under the closet especially Kasumbalesa.

Even the typical braids that you see (even though I hate to admit it because I love to have my hair braided) are so femminine.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on September 03, 2020, 01:21
I think in my view part of the reason why Papa Wemba was hated had something to with his willingness to own his flaws. He admitted his wrong doings. A lot of musicians don't like do that at all especially the Clan Wenge generation. Papa Wemba was not a major hypocrite like most of our musicians. He was a flawed man but he was willing to say that. JB, Werra, Koffi, Tshala, Fally, Ferre and others want to act like that they are perfect. That also plays a role of why many hated Papa Wemba.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Wenge1995 on September 03, 2020, 05:35
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974



I didn't knew about the dogs thing but there is a big business in Dubai for Instagram models from all over the world to getting pooped on in their body or eat the poop from rich Arab oil business man, this is why you see so many Instagram models who have little to zero known real fsme having all those extravant and luxurious vacations so even though is disgusting and shocking the dog sex thing is not really surprising knowing how many times Congolese musicians surprised us

https://youtu.be/3UITD7ikQr8


https://youtu.be/cKTO8j9Q2-s

But to be completely honest, I have never knew Zoophilia existed in Congolese music, to be honest I can understand the fame and everything but as a human being sometimes you must ask yourself if the things you are doing are worth your dignity, and for homosexuality in Congolese music is evident, check Kasumbalesa, Gipson, Iniesta, Abraham Mignon, Ceden Play, Identitè, Eclipse, Sabalo, Levitique (Conq Chantier) Papa Libumu (the Robinio dancer with the big belly), Bapince, Cascadeur (Wazekwa's Atalaku) and many other Atalakus and Singers don't look like they are gay under the closet especially Kasumbalesa.

Even the typical braids that you see (even though I hate to admit it because I love to have my hair braided) are so femminine.

Now you're just throwing out people's names, you gotta have proof or that's slander lmao Jypson is a faggot, but idk about the others you just named.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: CM PRINCE on September 03, 2020, 08:20
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974



I didn't knew about the dogs thing but there is a big business in Dubai for Instagram models from all over the world to getting pooped on in their body or eat the poop from rich Arab oil business man, this is why you see so many Instagram models who have little to zero known real fsme having all those extravant and luxurious vacations so even though is disgusting and shocking the dog sex thing is not really surprising knowing how many times Congolese musicians surprised us

https://youtu.be/3UITD7ikQr8


https://youtu.be/cKTO8j9Q2-s

But to be completely honest, I have never knew Zoophilia existed in Congolese music, to be honest I can understand the fame and everything but as a human being sometimes you must ask yourself if the things you are doing are worth your dignity, and for homosexuality in Congolese music is evident, check Kasumbalesa, Gipson, Iniesta, Abraham Mignon, Ceden Play, Identitè, Eclipse, Sabalo, Levitique (Conq Chantier) Papa Libumu (the Robinio dancer with the big belly), Bapince, Cascadeur (Wazekwa's Atalaku) and many other Atalakus and Singers don't look like they are gay under the closet especially Kasumbalesa.

Even the typical braids that you see (even though I hate to admit it because I love to have my hair braided) are so femminine.

Now you're just throwing out people's names, you gotta have proof or that's slander lmao Jypson is a faggot, but idk about the others you just named.
Exactly thank you ndeko Wenge1995, come on now you can’t just throw that many peoples name out there and call them gay with no evidence, and most those people named I don’t see what’s gay or suspect about them.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Paysan Congolais on September 03, 2020, 09:52
 Show business has always been tied to a LOT of shady businesses in the background.

That(s why I always say love the music but don't idolize these people: fame, nkisi and greed turn a lot of them into monsters.

Congo is a poor country with a very weak state, so it's a safe haven for pedophiles, zoophiles, and other perverts. Dogs scandals had been a thing for a long time: but everytime these people are caught they are either big profile or politicians, so they are protected and the scandal is put under the rug.

I remember some white guy was caught in Limete filming porn with dogs using young girls from very impoverished backgrounds and hookers. It made noise for a few days, then the guy vanished.

It's the same thing with a lot of these Dubai trips some young girls are suddenly taking. If a young woman is suddenly going to Dubai without a clear business purpose, you better be wary fellas. You don't want to get involved with a woman that had been pooped on...   

There is a reason why all these powerful politicians and shady businessmen do not want the Congo to be put in order with a strong police and a strong judiciary. Today, Congo is worse than the far west: these powerful politicians, businessmen, and musicians can do whatever they want. A lot of them might end up in front of a firing squad. If Congo was even a semi-functioning state, a lot of these band leaders will be where R Kelly is now
The day will come.

I totally forgot about the girl on the video (there was nothing to remember about her to be honest, outside of her body).

If my memory does not fail me, she was among the first wave of internet 'journalist' whose gimmick was acting like slut in front of the camera to compensate the fact they were airhead and attract viewers and potential clients.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 03, 2020, 17:08
Wemba hadn't a clean image. His image was messed up with the ngulu-affaire, the Western press starting to humilate him on the newpapers. After that it became worser with the documentary BBC made about him "Le Roi de la Sape" with people who used to steal expensive clothes for him. Then in 2008, he humilated himself by proudly saying that Liliane Muanga (ex'wife of Emeneya) used to be girlfriend before becoming Emeneya's wife and Emeneya replying that Wemba started to get her during the Maisha-days for spiritual reason to finish him (his staffmember Chikito Mushashino indirectly confirmed it without knowing it after Emeneya's death, saying that he & Wemba tried to look get in contact with Liliane. Wemba himself also saying it in an interview with Papy Mboma after Emeneya's death saying "sometimes it happen that people fall in love with the same person"). etc. and that many former musicians of his band and staff aren't going forward in their life, because of Wemba fucking with their wives and also using their sperm for his fame, etc. From that moment, people started to watch differently to Wemba, then in 2009  Alpatshino died, people accusing him to have sent Julie Mulanga (ex'fioti fioti dancers and wife of Alpatshino) who he used to date to poison him. People started to hate Wemba from that moment. Then from 2014-2016 he became the most hated bandleader of Kinshasa, when Emeneya died (Emeneya having made multiple interviews that Koffi Olomide & Papa Wemba fucked with his wife, trying to destabilize his band and in private also saying that Koffi, Wemba & Tshala Muana poisned him after the Maisha-Parc scandal which made him get heart-problems) being forbidden to participate to Emeneya's funeral along with Koffi and Wemba being sad about that, which made him record the song Blessure. Then when Wemba died in 2016, people forgot all those scandals quickly and he got the respect back that he lost in the last 15 years of his life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-guQBCy8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vRKDdjB9U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuDtmHXXXk

Tshala Muana? I thought that at least her was outside of these power games, anyway, I don't think there is a more desrespected leader in history more than Emeneya, Koffi, Papa, Wemba, Tshala Muana and many others have tried to sabotage his career and his life behind the music, plus he had Kevin that French sok who got paralyzed from that bullet in Afghanistan or Iraq, why all the leaders of his time hated or didn't show respect to Emeneya? I have never understood it
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 03, 2020, 17:17
You mean one with Fally ? The one of Fally her name is Olyncia, she used to live in Belgium (Liège) I know that story, you had to sleep with one or two dogs in Dubaï for some big amount of money. I don’t know if it was Mende, but yes they said that it was for a politician. She disappeared because shortly after that she went to settle in Kinshasa and worked at Digitalcongo for a moment, after that she became one of the advisors of a minister and 4 or 5 years ago she got a function at Palais du Peuple.

Having sex with dogs is a big business in Congo, I heard that even internet-journalist joined, going quickly to Dubai, South Africa or Turkey to have sex with dogs. The same labouche said 4/5 that one bandleader that just started his career wanted his wife to do that for him to get money. According to my uncle,  homosexuality and zoophilia exist already a long time in Congolese music, but behind the scenes. He said to me that a woman who’s seen as one of the legends in our music, had sex with George Foreman’s dog and Foreman himself, during the days that Ali Mohammed & George Foreman came to Kinshasa in 1974



I didn't knew about the dogs thing but there is a big business in Dubai for Instagram models from all over the world to getting pooped on in their body or eat the poop from rich Arab oil business man, this is why you see so many Instagram models who have little to zero known real fsme having all those extravant and luxurious vacations so even though is disgusting and shocking the dog sex thing is not really surprising knowing how many times Congolese musicians surprised us

https://youtu.be/3UITD7ikQr8


https://youtu.be/cKTO8j9Q2-s

But to be completely honest, I have never knew Zoophilia existed in Congolese music, to be honest I can understand the fame and everything but as a human being sometimes you must ask yourself if the things you are doing are worth your dignity, and for homosexuality in Congolese music is evident, check Kasumbalesa, Gipson, Iniesta, Abraham Mignon, Ceden Play, Identitè, Eclipse, Sabalo, Levitique (Conq Chantier) Papa Libumu (the Robinio dancer with the big belly), Bapince, Cascadeur (Wazekwa's Atalaku) and many other Atalakus and Singers don't look like they are gay under the closet especially Kasumbalesa.

Even the typical braids that you see (even though I hate to admit it because I love to have my hair braided) are so femminine.

Now you're just throwing out people's names, you gotta have proof or that's slander lmao Jypson is a faggot, but idk about the others you just named.
Exactly thank you ndeko Wenge1995, come on now you can’t just throw that many peoples name out there and call them gay with no evidence, and most those people named I don’t see what’s gay or suspect about them.

I don't know why Congolese people and African people in general have an hard time hearing the truth, there are even some leaders which I won't mention since we wanna be sensitive, that hahe slept with manto advance in their career, there is a donor called D. K. who used to have the most songs by leaders and two or three of those leaders slept with this D.K. in exchange for money, you want to tell me that Kasumbalesa and Ceden Paly are straight? Come on, you don't have to be a genius to see that homosexuality in Congolese music is heavily promoted under the rug, I know that as Africans we see homosexuality is an abomination like it should be but we can't be fake and act like it isn't there, the reason why you never hear about stories over homosexuality of musicians it is because it will totally ruin a reputation of someone if not many many interviews would come out of people telling the truth, Zobozi tried to expose the "2 sex" musicians and he died, you think that leaders want to loose all and admits that they have publicly gay guys on the group or that they have slept with guys for fame in the past?
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 03, 2020, 17:47
manzambi some guys are born with some traits kinda feminine if you want to dig way too deep in it but are much much much more straight that some mean looking big bearded guys with hella tattoos,yes the phenomenon exists,yes some people are either too weak mentally or too greedy and accept certain things but the looks do not necessarily mean something,sometimes that "feminine" vibe is simply that those people took more of their mother than their dad,it happens too
kasumbalesa is still quite having started in extra even before being 18 and does not look like growing beard,same for ibrator who looks a bit like him and does not look either like growing chin beard a lot does it necessarily mean he is suspect
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Paysan Congolais on September 03, 2020, 18:05
Someone havin a light feminine way of talking or acting is not enough to call him an homosexual.

Of course, there are shady sexual bizness behind the scene, but you can't call someone gay just because he talks funny.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 03, 2020, 19:19
Tshala Muana was mad because of the way Emeneya exposed her and Werra, JB, Koffi & Wemba about the 15.000 dollars-affair with Joseph Kabila, while they had to talk about the projects of modern studios, copyrights, royalties, etc. It made Tshala Muana who's the original initator of the Maisha Parc-project (many people think that it was Koffi Olomide) get  problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09kvOhSJVEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azSos-SnKhY

In Congolese music you got always fighted if you are number one and if used to be on the number one-spot, fearing that you can make a comeback to dominate the game again. Emeneya used from 1982 when Victoria Eleison was created until 1988 and his comeback in 1990, to be the most popular musician of Zaire. He could never leave his house in Bandalungwa without having a big crowd behind his back, masses of people were following him like the way they would follow later Werrason in his prime on the streeets. He used to have a contract with Bralima giving open-air concerts for them in the areas of Kinshasa with big crowds (Kasa-Vubu, Bandal, N'djili, Lemba, Matete, Barumbu, etc.), filling stadiums Stade de 20 Mai of Kinshasa, Stade Massamba-Debat of Brazzaville, Stade Mobutu of Lubumbashi (now called Stade Kibassa-Maliba), etc. He was a model of the new generation, starting have copycats in streetbands, youngsters copying his haircuts, taking over his slogans and the way of talking (if you listen to the unreleased songs of Wenge 4x4 recorded in 1986, you can hear JB taking over his slogan "moko te, nakati ya ba kin"). His impact was so huge that the press started to call him the leader of the 3th generation in articles and newspapers, while in the past only his ex'leader Papa Wemba and Evoloko used to be named like that. He used to perform 3/4 times a day from Thursday until Sunday. The rivalery of Viva La Musica against Victoria Eleison was to much for his ex'leader Papa Wemba (he was broke, hadn't enough financial supported, boycotted by Verckys, his band Viva La Musica not being able anymore to fight Victoria and Wemba himself fighted by Franco Luambo Makiadi and Tabu Ley), deciding then to settle in France for his World Music-career, which made the public and press say that Wemba ran away for Emeneya's succes. All these things weren't forgotten by Papa Wemba and Koffi Olomide. So when Emeneya started have a dip in 1989 & 1990 and the years after the flop of Reponse ya Polo Kina and Everybody until his return in 1997, he was often victim of criticism by the press. Saying that he abandoned his roots to Wenge, because of the way he changed his music-style in Everybody. That he wanted to kill Victoria Eleison by hiring foreign musicians, while Papa Wemba had his worldmusic band Molokai. Also that Emeneya wasn't able to pay his rent in Paris, etc. Emeneya himself who was often getting dissapointed when getting in a dip wasn't fighting back. From the years that he lived in France (1991-1997), his huge fanbase in Kinshasa and Brazzaville who were waiting months for him switched to Wenge Musica 4x4, Koffi Olomide started to settle himself as a big star with his band Quartier Latin and Wemba made his comeback with Foridoles & Pole Postion (having every year some concerts in Kinshasa for a few weeks) ending by forming Nouvelle Ecriture. His fanatics started to wake him up, he decided to comeback after almost 7 years not more returning to Kinshasa by performing at Stade des Martyrs and forming a new band. But the years who followed wouldn't not be easy, because most donors and friends became donors of other bands (Koffi Olomide, Papa Wemba, Wenge Musica, etc.), so he hadn't  the same support like them. The way his fans had to wait years long for Longue Histoire with the flop of Never Again in meantime made his last bastion switch to Werrason (since that Emeneya was openly supporting Werrason in the beef against JB Mpiana). Emeneya was also sometimes also not motivated and sometimes doubting about himself, starting to focus more on private business, his houses, etc. Mifune Kiabelva for example who used to get expensive clothes for him got jailed, which is one of the reasons why he switched to demin jackets, which would become his trademark.


The problem with Emeneya's first wife Francine, was that Emeneya went to sleep with her best friend Liliane, who would end becoming Emeneya's new wife. Knowing that Koffi Olomide was Emeneya best friend, she went to sleep with him as revenge, when Emeneya was in Europe. So when Emeneya came back, he was informed by close friends and even his former manager Verckys, that they caught Koffi with her in a hotel and even his kid saying that he came sleeping multiple in his house with her. That's why he divorced with his first wife, Koffi tried to apologize but Emeneya refused. Then some years later, both Emeneya & Koffi were invited for concerts in Abidjan. Koffi was still eager to reconcile with him, so he used Consty Eka to come with to Emeneya's hotelroom. Then when Emeneya saw him they started to fight and Consty Eka trying to calm down. They ended up by reconciling and became friends again, but their friendship wouldn't be the same like in the 70s and 80s, because now both were fighting about the n1-stop and Koffi often mocking him and talking bad about him behind his back.


Emeneya's ex'wife Liliane couldn't forgive Emeneya until he died, because of the way their son Kevin became paralyzed. She was mad because of the way Emeneya abandoned her in Europe with their 5 kids to live, prefering to live in Kinshasa with Florence, not being able to affront their sons when they came on the stage of puberty and them missing a father figure.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Paysan Congolais on September 03, 2020, 21:08
Tshala Muana was mad because of the way Emeneya exposed her and Werra, JB, Koffi & Wemba about the 15.000 dollars-affair with Joseph Kabila, while they had to talk about the projects of modern studios, copyrights, royalties, etc. It made Tshala Muana who's the original initator of the Maisha Parc-project (many people think that it was Koffi Olomide) get  problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09kvOhSJVEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azSos-SnKhY

In Congolese music you got always fighted if you are number one and if used to be on the number one-spot, fearing that you can make a comeback to dominate the game again. Emeneya used from 1982 when Victoria Eleison was created until 1988 and his comeback in 1990, to be the most popular musician of Zaire. He could never leave his house in Bandalungwa without having a big crowd behind his back, masses of people were following him like the way they would follow later Werrason in his prime on the streeets. He used to have a contract with Bralima giving open-air concerts for them in the areas of Kinshasa with big crowds (Kasa-Vubu, Bandal, N'djili, Lemba, Matete, Barumbu, etc.), filling stadiums Stade de 20 Mai of Kinshasa, Stade Massamba-Debat of Brazzaville, Stade Mobutu of Lubumbashi (now called Stade Kibassa-Maliba), etc. He was a model of the new generation, starting have copycats in streetbands, youngsters copying his haircuts, taking over his slogans and the way of talking (if you listen to the unreleased songs of Wenge 4x4 recorded in 1986, you can hear JB taking over his slogan "moko te, nakati ya ba kin"). His impact was so huge that the press started to call him the leader of the 3th generation in articles and newspapers, while in the past only his ex'leader Papa Wemba and Evoloko used to be named like that. He used to perform 3/4 times a day from Thursday until Sunday. The rivalery of Viva La Musica against Victoria Eleison was to much for his ex'leader Papa Wemba (he was broke, hadn't enough financial supported, boycotted by Verckys, his band Viva La Musica not being able anymore to fight Victoria and Wemba himself fighted by Franco Luambo Makiadi and Tabu Ley), deciding then to settle in France for his World Music-career, which made the public and press say that Wemba ran away for Emeneya's succes. All these things weren't forgotten by Papa Wemba and Koffi Olomide. So when Emeneya started have a dip in 1989 & 1990 and the years after the flop of Reponse ya Polo Kina and Everybody until his return in 1997, he was often victim of criticism by the press. Saying that he abandoned his roots to Wenge, because of the way he changed his music-style in Everybody. That he wanted to kill Victoria Eleison by hiring foreign musicians, while Papa Wemba had his worldmusic band Molokai. Also that Emeneya wasn't able to pay his rent in Paris, etc. Emeneya himself who was often getting dissapointed when getting in a dip wasn't fighting back. From the years that he lived in France (1991-1997), his huge fanbase in Kinshasa and Brazzaville who were waiting months for him switched to Wenge Musica 4x4, Koffi Olomide started to settle himself as a big star with his band Quartier Latin and Wemba made his comeback with Foridoles & Pole Postion (having every year some concerts in Kinshasa for a few weeks) ending by forming Nouvelle Ecriture. His fanatics started to wake him up, he decided to comeback after almost 7 years not more returning to Kinshasa by performing at Stade des Martyrs and forming a new band. But the years who followed wouldn't not be easy, because most donors and friends became donors of other bands (Koffi Olomide, Papa Wemba, Wenge Musica, etc.), so he hadn't  the same support like them. The way his fans had to wait years long for Longue Histoire with the flop of Never Again in meantime made his last bastion switch to Werrason (since that Emeneya was openly supporting Werrason in the beef against JB Mpiana). Emeneya was also sometimes also not motivated and sometimes doubting about himself, starting to focus more on private business, his houses, etc. Mifune Kiabelva for example who used to get expensive clothes for him got jailed, which is one of the reasons why he switched to demin jackets, which would become his trademark.


The problem with Emeneya's first wife Francine, was that Emeneya went to sleep with her best friend Liliane, who would end becoming Emeneya's new wife. Knowing that Koffi Olomide was Emeneya best friend, she went to sleep with him as revenge, when Emeneya was in Europe. So when Emeneya came back, he was informed by close friends and even his former manager Verckys, that they caught Koffi with her in a hotel and even his kid saying that he came sleeping multiple in his house with her. That's why he divorced with his first wife, Koffi tried to apologize but Emeneya refused. Then some years later, both Emeneya & Koffi were invited for concerts in Abidjan. Koffi was still eager to reconcile with him, so he used Consty Eka to come with to Emeneya's hotelroom. Then when Emeneya saw him they started to fight and Consty Eka trying to calm down. They ended up by reconciling and became friends again, but their friendship wouldn't be the same like in the 70s and 80s, because now both were fighting about the n1-stop and Koffi often mocking him and talking bad about him behind his back.


Emeneya's ex'wife Liliane couldn't forgive Emeneya until he died, because of the way their son Kevin became paralyzed. She was mad because of the way Emeneya abandoned her in Europe with their 5 kids to live, prefering to live in Kinshasa with Florence, not being able to affront their sons when they came on the stage of puberty and them missing a father figure.

Interesting. Thx.

But why did Kester choose to stay in Europe when people were making moves in Kin? It's always a mystery for me.

I remember seeing him in 1990 as a kid. It was CRAZY. After that, people will slowly forget about him.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 03, 2020, 21:47
In 1991 he came normally to do a long tour world-tour (France, U.K., Spain, Italy, Japan, Canada, U.S.A., Germany, etc.) with succes of Mokosa & Nzinzi, being managed by Gerard Akueson (the manager of Abeti Masikini). The goal was buy their own instruments, record two albums (one band-album and one remix album of Emeneya's Viva hits) and going back to Kinshasa, also forcing the old guard out (leaving Pinos Tembo behind in Kinshasa, Safro Manzangi & Santana Mongoley leaving in U.K. after getting disrespected by new members and Mongoley even fighting with Emeneya's bodyguard). But when they wanted to return, those riots started in Kinshasa. So Emeneya prefered to stay with his band in Europe, wanting also to rest,  start a world-music like his mentor Papa Wemba and return to Kinshasa on a later stadium. But the press in Kinshasa, claimed that Emeneya feared Wenge Musica and ran away because the succes the album Kin E Bouge had, like the way Wemba ran away for Victoria's succes. Not long after that they got residence permits of France through Gerard Akueson. In 1992 Emeneya already wanted to record his album Everybody, but his musicians started to get mad and Malembe Chante even threatened to leave the band. They released Reponse Ya Polo Kina, but the album wasn't well received, only the song Dandy doing well. In 1993 Emeneya finally recorded and released the album Everybody with the expectations that it would be a huge succes in Kinshasa and return to Kinshasa with Bralima/Primus-sponsored, like the concerts Wemba had with Bracongo  in Kinshasa with Reddy from 1993 until 1996 until creating Nouvelle Ecriture. But Everybody flopped very hard, because of its rhtyhm and Congolese people not being used it (prefering seben). Only Nzila Velela did it well. Emeneya had then also the badluck that he wasn't produced by a major recordlabel like Papa Wemba, so he wasn't going forward. The press then saying "Emeneya avait jeté le rythme dans la rue et ses petits de Wenge Musica BCBG 4x4 l'ont ramassé à Bandal". (The same people and press would ask him in the Longue Histoire why he stopped with the music of Everybody). This all made Emeneya being dissapointed and not motivated anymore. From then it became very quite with Emeneya, some members leaving, Emeneya himself sometimes having concerts with Dindo Yogo, Gina Efonge & Lidjo Kwempa in Brussels, Paris & London. Emeneya started to get disrespected by his own bandmembers and himself regretting Safro, Mongoley & Pinos who would have stopped that.  In 1995, his band released Pas de Contact, which sold very well, but not being a huge succes. Fans saying that Malembe Chante wasn't able to defend the band and not having the style of Victoria, because of his songs who were more on the Minzoto Wella Wella-rhtyhm. Then in 1997,  Emeneya made his comeback with the new album Succes Fous, but that wasn't also well received.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Jdog on September 04, 2020, 09:03
Haha I remember this, they for sure did something after the interview.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Jdog on September 04, 2020, 09:05
https://youtu.be/WtR7lAZoGc4

HAHAHA he was ice cool like nothing happened
Lol Papa Wemba making hints about how it's all going to end. What ever happened to Rihanna Domingos?
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: archos on September 04, 2020, 09:39
hahaha papa was a bad boy i remember that scene in the sapeur documentary when a woman came for libanga to his house and literally offered to sleep with him and promised that he will be satisfied with him saying"namitiki osalaka nga ndenge olingi"
rihanna domingos if i am not mistaken had a children with an influent donor and retired from media but behind the scenes is part of congomokili with ado yuhe and anelka
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: shamala on September 04, 2020, 16:50
hahaha papa was a bad boy i remember that scene in the sapeur documentary when a woman came for libanga to his house and literally offered to sleep with him and promised that he will be satisfied with him saying"namitiki osalaka nga ndenge olingi"


I was very ashamed yet am not connected to them in any way.
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 04, 2020, 17:49
hahaha papa was a bad boy i remember that scene in the sapeur documentary when a woman came for libanga to his house and literally offered to sleep with him and promised that he will be satisfied with him saying"namitiki osalaka nga ndenge olingi"
rihanna domingos if i am not mistaken had a children with an influent donor and retired from media but behind the scenes is part of congomokili with ado yuhe and anelka

I wonder what these guys are thinking marrying girl like Rihanna Domingos etc, anyway CongoMikili is a very good project who started it?
Title: Re: JEEZ I REALLY HOPE FOR FALLY’S SAKE NANA KETCHUP DIDN’T SEE THIS CAUSE DAMNNNN
Post by: Mfumu Vata on September 04, 2020, 19:11
Don't mistake Congomokili of Sims Esele, Ado Yuhe, Anelka ba Faussette & Rihanna Domingos with Congomikili of Yves Kabemba. Congomokili and Congomikili are two different things.

 The project of Congomikili was started in 2008 by Yves Kabemba, who lives in Canada (Montreal). He wanted to have a kind of CNN for the whole Congolese diaspora. So he started a website which was posting articles about politics, history and music and also videos from journalists in Kinshasa (Papy Mboma, Magalie Sisi, Djo K, etc.)working for tele-channels RTGA, RTVS, etc. and collaborating with Europe-based journalists Marc Tabu & Francis Kakonde who were interviewing artists when they came for shows at Zenith and Europe-tours. They also started to distribute cd, dvds in Montreal, Paris & Brussels through their website. But in 2010 Francis Kakonde & Marc Tabu dediced to leave and form Congobilili (Marc Tabu would later leave it again to form Congonumber1 with Blaise Manzambi & Abeba Lipordo). Congomikili on his side recruited less known journalists in Europe, but still stayed strong. They to collaborated with Congolese people living in Washington D.C. (Kams who more into politics), Dallas, South Africa (John Image, Pasteur Sans Rival & Bishop Elysee), Russia (with Ado Yuhe used to be a student there) and also Australia. The combattans-phenomenon, politicial situation and elections of 2011, made Congomikili being the most followed in 2011 & 2012. Following closely how in Kinshasa through journalists like Kadhafi Mumbudi (who was close to PPRD of Kabila) and another guy (I forgot his name) being close to UDPS of Etienne Tshisekedi), how the elections went, people getting shot & killed how the PPRD-camp used corruption to win. In Europe how people in Paris & Brussels used to protest against Kabila and starting actions (mutakalalisation) against politicans and their families who tried to get in Europe. In South Africa how people discovered containers with already voted papers in favor of Joseph Kabila. Boketshu, Odon Mbo, having every week interviews there, etc. Then in 2012/12 it started to get down when Grace Mbizi joined who came from Drigombaki, people complaining about her not being able to ask questions and also about her behaviour and clothing.  The new journalist Johnny Yayimimpe on his side trying to re-introduce La Sape, which didn't have alot of impact anymore in the Congolese community. Congomikili being accused of getting money from PPRD, etc. Grace Mbizi would end up leaving after a conflict with Ado Yuhe who started to live in Paris. She would be replaced by Rihanna Domingos who came from Drigbombaki along with Anelka ba Faussette with a rivalery starting between Grace Mbizi and Rihanna Domingos. In Kinshasa they recruited Carine Mokonzi. In 2015, Ado Yuhe, Sims Sesele, Anelka Ba Faussette & Rihanna Domingos decided to leave a form Congomokili after a conflict Jacques Kabemba (Jacques Kabemba is responsible for many departures). From that moment Congomikili was finished with people only following Carine Mokonzi & Aicha Okoko and the website itself not more having alot of impact.

If you look well many people come from Congomikili. Maman Elysee who make videos about weddings and divorces used to work for Congomikili and also Kerwin Mayizo who comes everyday with political analyses on internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e9Q_FPajoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOfjFbhVmho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--oD_1e1mZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KBW8CkGP2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ9wjKtJwNM