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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: CM PRINCE on November 01, 2020, 15:39

Title: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: CM PRINCE on November 01, 2020, 15:39
At the top of my head it’s these two. Both Disstracks towards Papa Wemba, but what are your favourites? If anything make a top 5 of possible.
https://youtu.be/B5dEXNz3siQ
The best Chorus and also amazing sebene just good song overall
https://youtu.be/8V4OjBQ_8rE
I love this chorus too and I love Babia and Mustapha’s vocals.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 01, 2020, 15:58
Two you've posted are classics.

I can add these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fQ8MaaSNQ

This one is epic. The lyrics are just crazy.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkEmYpfdo4

The chorus is shade at Ferre.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k349KCe0qY

I don't think this one needs an explanation. The GOAT himself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94c1HLonLUQ

Probably the most famous diss track by a female singer.





I love this one too, aimed at... Mbilia Bel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zYdAq_PBI

A very respectful diss. You gotta love Seigneur Ley.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: mrvibes on November 01, 2020, 16:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1Llk_ZHGk
I will go with this one..
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: SLK97 on November 01, 2020, 16:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPfI11PNQSw

JB's opening verse really is something. You know who this is aimed at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giKdCL6u41o

QL didn't hold back with this chorus. And neither did Zaiko with their 'Antoine misisa' response ;D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhTgykjQV58

And this one as well. The shots fired are actually subtle compared to the other songs.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 01, 2020, 17:00
I forgot about le Grand Ninja.

Honorable mentions for this two disstracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27te4r9naQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGB2au_xFw4
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on November 01, 2020, 17:37
I forgot about le Grand Ninja.

Honorable mentions for this two disstracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27te4r9naQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGB2au_xFw4
Was Bonheur dice song towards Simaro?

Here are my favorite dice songs

This was Tabu Ley and Kwamy mocking Franco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHJYBWT94XA
Franco had two songs at Kwamy (I wonder why Franco ever accepted Kwamy back into OK Jazz. This is why Vicky left OKJ in 1971)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dspJ4qoCspQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQSURavsfDs

This Youlou song was an attack at Serge Kiambukuta. What a shocker. Even Youlou did his dices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5XZo5G_TCw

This song of Zaiko was a very solid dig at Koffi Olomide by calling Antoine Mosisa. They were defending Papa Wemba in this song
Hehehe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwbTk2_tpE

Papa Wemba insulting Koffi Olomide in this successful rap crossover song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vguw2j281U

The best Madilu dice songs towards Simaro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_63PhHXRho
Wow he was referring to Simaro as his uncle. BTW Simaro married Madilu's sister or auntie Kelani. It looks to me that Maman Kelani and Madilu never got along which could be the true reason why Madilu and Simaro would have their eventual fallout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcm-BCSF7P0
The name should have revealed already who he was referring to.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: CM PRINCE on November 01, 2020, 17:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9lDvF57Jc
This one where Academia are clearly mocking Koffi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EcECiNipCg
This one is funny where Werra mocks Jb for sleeping (Implying that he's lazy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F70KvqD0_SE
Somono attacks Koffi in his animation


Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 18:44
I forgot about le Grand Ninja.

Honorable mentions for this two disstracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27te4r9naQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGB2au_xFw4

Yaya was a tribute-song for Franco Luambo Makiadi. Bonheur Plus was just a song to say that he was doing well, after many rumors that he would die, because he seriously sick before the recordings of Bonheur.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mukulu on November 01, 2020, 19:02
My favorite diss drack :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7N_cX3bLw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpCOHeq8ws
Wazekwa was angry !!  ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edUBQNQiaS4





Bonus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGEwCYh1ZM

Is it true that it was a disstrack towards Modogo GFF and its staff ?


Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:18
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dOz_3UteM

Dr Nico’s reaction against Tabu Ley, after calling him disrespecting him in Likala Moto. Dr Nico reacting by saying that they know their witchdoctor and that Tabu Ley will never be better than him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bt37WASE84Y

The title is in reality Palmares, it got released after Olympia.Tabu Ley disrespecting and dissing his mentor Grand Kalle Jeff, by saying that he’s finished. He made this song because he didn’t like the way Grand Kalle critized his show at Olympia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4_6clpHAY

Koffi Olomidé dissing Fally Ipupa, singing that he paid his schoolfees, but Fally changing his parents when graduating (refering to the way David Monsoh and Maïka Munan became his new mentors).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCyZWyTbxYE

Koffi Olomidé attacking Fally very hard and even threatening him with the death

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpCOHeq8ws

Nouvelle Generation dissing Papa Wemba, and singing at a point that Michael Jackson and Johnny Hallyday are better than him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-cFlkE6jg

One of the reasons why Koffi Olomidé recorded Andrada. Papa Wemba recording this song because of the way Koffi started to talk bad about him behind the scenes, ignoring him in interviews, etc.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9yohBzM4xA0

Madilu attacking Lita Bembo for the way he snichted him to Franco and spread in Belgium, that he was the one who said that Franco had AIDS and that he was about to die.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X8CBULojysE

Others said that Lutumba reacted against Madilu’s multiple shots in songs and the song l’Eau, other say that it was made against Carlyto Lassa who became a brother in Christ and iniated him, others say that it was made against Decca Mpudi and co who left.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19SVY5w8svA

Decca Mpudi and co dissing Lutumba Simaro after their departure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=86ZtHy0WO30

Against Werrason
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTH7b89rrk

This was also seen as a diss towards Werrason, Serge Mabiala’s vocal was a hard attack.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmHonJrtJ4

This song was along with Malanda Ngombe a reaction to Papa Wemba. Here Koffi sings that Wemba has to stop with lying that he made him. Babia even going far with vocal that Papa Wemba forgot the amount of kids he has.

https://youtu.be/ObXbuwh4Z54

Wazekwa dissing Koffi Olomidé, after being dissapointed that Koffi said that he didn’t know Wazekwa.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHX8Q-EEGKw

This song was seen as a diss to Koffi, because he sung at a point that he brags about having studied, but that they have never seen his diploma’s and asking how times they will call him brother in law (for the way used to marry often, he dated journalist  Judith “Magic” Wawina & Helene Kalema).

https://youtu.be/MutBl37UK_E

Le Karmapa Bitu Djeni dissing Koffi Olomidé

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jRRvVgwJ8Io

Koffi dissing Aristote and Minou’s grandpa

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9D8UfyTb8

Koffi dissing his own sister
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mopao195 on November 01, 2020, 19:24
Andrada is one of the most beautiful songs ive ever heard while malanda ngombe and Rond the point got that disstrack feel andrada certainly dont. but is he dissing papa wemba all through out the song or is just one verse ?
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:25
My favorite diss drack :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7N_cX3bLw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpCOHeq8ws
Wazekwa was angry !!  ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edUBQNQiaS4





Bonus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGEwCYh1ZM

Is it true that it was a disstrack towards Modogo GFF and its staff ?

No, back in the days Wemba was stil close to Modogo Gianfranco Ferre. Modogo made a song called Ba venants, which an attack towards migrants who came after 1988 and used to call for every detail to their parents or relatives about their brother or sister (like “he isn’t rich, he asked me if he could get some money, he was in prison, etc.”. Demukuse liked the song and wanted a second part, to give “The venant’s” part of the story, that’s why it’s called “Reponse ya Venant”. The song was a huge succes in concerts. Demukuse wanted to record an album, but Papa Wemba refused.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THVA0PhhfgQ
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:26
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dchPR6dUJA4

I forgot the add this one. Papa Wemba dissing Stervos Niarcos through Modogo, after the incident at Palais du Peuple.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Wenge1995 on November 01, 2020, 19:29
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dOz_3UteM

Dr Nico’s reaction against Tabu Ley, after calling him disrespecting him in Likala Moto. Dr Nico reacting by saying that they know their witchdoctor and that Tabu Ley will never be better than him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bt37WASE84Y

The title is in reality Palmares, it got released after Olympia.Tabu Ley disrespecting and dissing his mentor Grand Kalle Jeff, by saying that he’s finished. He made this song because he didn’t like the way Grand Kalle critized his show at Olympia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4_6clpHAY

Koffi Olomidé dissing Fally Ipupa, singing that he paid his schoolfees, but Fally changing his parents when graduating (refering to the way David Monsoh and Maïka Munan became his new mentors).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCyZWyTbxYE

Koffi Olomidé attacking Fally very hard and even threatening him with the death

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpCOHeq8ws

Nouvelle Generation dissing Papa Wemba, and singing at a point that Michael Jackson and Johnny Hallyday are better than him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-cFlkE6jg

One of the reasons why Koffi Olomidé recorded Andrada. Papa Wemba recording this song because of the way Koffi started to talk bad about him behind the scenes, ignoring him in interviews, etc.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9yohBzM4xA0

Madilu attacking Lita Bembo for the way he snichted him to Franco and spread in Belgium, that he was the one who said that Franco had AIDS and that he was about to die.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X8CBULojysE

Others said that Lutumba reacted against Madilu’s multiple shots in songs and the song l’Eau, other say that it was made against Carlyto Lassa who became a brother in Christ and iniated him, others say that it was made against Decca Mpudi and co who left.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19SVY5w8svA

Decca Mpudi and co dissing Lutumba Simaro after their departure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=86ZtHy0WO30

Against Werrason
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTH7b89rrk

This was also seen as a diss towards Werrason, Serge Mabiala’s vocal was a hard attack.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmHonJrtJ4

This song was along with Malanda Ngombe a reaction to Papa Wemba. Here Koffi sings that Wemba has to stop with lying that he made him. Babia even going far with vocal that Papa Wemba forgot the amount of kids he has.

https://youtu.be/ObXbuwh4Z54

Wazekwa dissing Koffi Olomidé, after being dissapointed that Koffi said that he didn’t know Wazekwa.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHX8Q-EEGKw

This song was seen as a diss to Koffi, because he sung at a point that he brags about having studied, but that they have never seen his diploma’s and asking how times they will call him brother in law (for the way used to marry often, he dated journalist  Judith “Magic” Wawina & Helene Kalema).

https://youtu.be/MutBl37UK_E

Le Karmapa Bitu Djeni dissing Koffi Olomidé

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jRRvVgwJ8Io

Koffi dissing Aristote and Minou’s grandpa

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9D8UfyTb8

Koffi dissing his own sister

Damn, Koffi a savage! He dissed his own sister? What she do? Lol
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:34
Andrada is one of the most beautiful songs ive ever heard while malanda ngombe and Rond the point got that disstrack feel andrada certainly dont. but is he dissing papa wemba all through out the song or is just one verse ?

I don’t think that you understand Lingala, because in Malanda Ngombe he dissed Wemba harder than on Andrada. In Malanda Ngombe he insulted him physically, mocking his big nose by calling him Shamazulu. In Andrada & Malanda Ngombe he dissed Papa Wemba through the whole song. In Andrada he sung that he isn’t his enemy, that he had to look to all the people he hurt, that he he’s ungrateful for the things he did, that can’t attack him spiritually in the day and night, etc. In Malanda Ngombe he referred to the time when he used to write songs for him (19977/1978/1979) and that he got a lot of profit from it (na wenze ozalaki na mesa, kasi souviens toi Zulu, marchandise ezalaki ya nga kasi ozuaka interet ebele). Giving Lola Muana, Fally Ipupa, Depitcho diss-verses,.. “you always thinks that it’s you, you.”, “why always praying to god about my death, but you forgot that God is giving me protection”, “Le Grand Mopao is me, open your history-book and you will see that the person who made you is me”...
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:36
I don’t know that the problem was. But they apparently never talked again since this song. I always thought that it was Maman Ruffa na London, but it’s the one who lives in Belgium.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 01, 2020, 19:42
I forgot about le Grand Ninja.

Honorable mentions for this two disstracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27te4r9naQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGB2au_xFw4

Yaya was a tribute-song for Franco Luambo Makiadi. Bonheur Plus was just a song to say that he was doing well, after many rumors that he would die, because he seriously sick before the recordings of Bonheur.

I think you're right about Bonheur Plus. However, Yaya is more of a diss than a tribute song. By talking to Franco, he's attacking Simaro/Bana OK.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 19:46
How could forget Marie Paul “le Roi Soleil” ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAMM-Kn0j8

Against Werrason, after their fallout (he used to support him after the split).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X8VwJCMTDt0&t=13s

This one who’s after 10 years still unreleased
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Manzambi94 on November 01, 2020, 19:57
At the top of my head it’s these two. Both Disstracks towards Papa Wemba, but what are your favourites? If anything make a top 5 of possible.
https://youtu.be/B5dEXNz3siQ
The best Chorus and also amazing sebene just good song overall
https://youtu.be/8V4OjBQ_8rE
I love this chorus too and I love Babia and Mustapha’s vocals.



Andras was a diss song? Man that sing was so beautiful I never expected to be a diss song
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 01, 2020, 20:02
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dOz_3UteM

Dr Nico’s reaction against Tabu Ley, after calling him disrespecting him in Likala Moto. Dr Nico reacting by saying that they know their witchdoctor and that Tabu Ley will never be better than him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bt37WASE84Y

The title is in reality Palmares, it got released after Olympia.Tabu Ley disrespecting and dissing his mentor Grand Kalle Jeff, by saying that he’s finished. He made this song because he didn’t like the way Grand Kalle critized his show at Olympia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4_6clpHAY

Koffi Olomidé dissing Fally Ipupa, singing that he paid his schoolfees, but Fally changing his parents when graduating (refering to the way David Monsoh and Maïka Munan became his new mentors).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCyZWyTbxYE

Koffi Olomidé attacking Fally very hard and even threatening him with the death

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpCOHeq8ws

Nouvelle Generation dissing Papa Wemba, and singing at a point that Michael Jackson and Johnny Hallyday are better than him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-cFlkE6jg

One of the reasons why Koffi Olomidé recorded Andrada. Papa Wemba recording this song because of the way Koffi started to talk bad about him behind the scenes, ignoring him in interviews, etc.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9yohBzM4xA0

Madilu attacking Lita Bembo for the way he snichted him to Franco and spread in Belgium, that he was the one who said that Franco had AIDS and that he was about to die.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X8CBULojysE

Others said that Lutumba reacted against Madilu’s multiple shots in songs and the song l’Eau, other say that it was made against Carlyto Lassa who became a brother in Christ and iniated him, others say that it was made against Decca Mpudi and co who left.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19SVY5w8svA

Decca Mpudi and co dissing Lutumba Simaro after their departure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=86ZtHy0WO30

Against Werrason
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTH7b89rrk

This was also seen as a diss towards Werrason, Serge Mabiala’s vocal was a hard attack.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmHonJrtJ4

This song was along with Malanda Ngombe a reaction to Papa Wemba. Here Koffi sings that Wemba has to stop with lying that he made him. Babia even going far with vocal that Papa Wemba forgot the amount of kids he has.

https://youtu.be/ObXbuwh4Z54

Wazekwa dissing Koffi Olomidé, after being dissapointed that Koffi said that he didn’t know Wazekwa.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHX8Q-EEGKw

This song was seen as a diss to Koffi, because he sung at a point that he brags about having studied, but that they have never seen his diploma’s and asking how times they will call him brother in law (for the way used to marry often, he dated journalist  Judith “Magic” Wawina & Helene Kalema).

https://youtu.be/MutBl37UK_E

Le Karmapa Bitu Djeni dissing Koffi Olomidé

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jRRvVgwJ8Io

Koffi dissing Aristote and Minou’s grandpa

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9D8UfyTb8

Koffi dissing his own sister

Damn, Koffi a savage! He dissed his own sister? What she do? Lol

I don't know what she really did but in that song Koffi was attacking her saying she's an easy woman.

As Mfumu said her and Koffi did not talk to each other for a long time. I don't know if they patch things up, but it will be surprising if they did.

I know that back then, in the early 90's, she was accusing Koffi of using witchcraft to kill her unborn children.

Beside the drama, it's very beautiful song with good moral teaching. Ironic coming from Koffi.

Also ironic it's that in the same album you have a very beautiful song (Evangile) dedicated to Koffi's late brother (Didi) after he passed.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 20:45
The same album has Noblesse Oblige, according to radio-troittor it was a diss-song against Nyoka Longo and on the same time a revenge-song towards people who accuse him for being a witch, doing nkisi and scamming people. Back in the days alot musicians passed away in a short in Zaiko and people started to claim that it was because of Nyoka Longo sacrifing them and people for a long time fearing Zaiko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrYvBbS-YM

But you have also other who claim that it was not destined to Nyoka Longo.

The album has also a song called Miss des Miss dedicated to Aliane, who he met after 40 days mouring his late brother Didi. The funny part is that a big part of the song was written by Felix Nlandu Wazekwa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IRfe15vSE
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: mrvibes on November 01, 2020, 21:32
The same album has Noblesse Oblige, according to radio-troittor it was a diss-song against Nyoka Longo and on the same time a revenge-song towards people who accuse him for being a witch, doing nkisi and scamming people. Back in the days alot musicians passed away in a short in Zaiko and people started to claim that it was because of Nyoka Longo sacrifing them and people for a long time fearing Zaiko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrYvBbS-YM

But you have also other who claim that it was not destined to Nyoka Longo.

The album has also a song called Miss des Miss dedicated to Aliane, who he met after 40 days mouring his late brother Didi. The funny part is that a big part of the song was written by Felix Nlandu Wazekwa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IRfe15vSE
  so .how many songs did ya landu wazekwa co write in that album . i taught  the only song he participated in was noblesse oblige .
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 21:55
something like 4/5 songs. Song like Papa Plus, Doless (Herode Mandiangu gave it to Koffi Olomide, as gift in order that he would participate in his album in future, Koffi not knowing that Wazekwa gave it to Herode for his album) and Kramogo. The difference with other artists is that Koffi always add his part in those songs and mix them. He did the same things with the few songs Wazekwa gave to him in Koweit Rive Gauche. In Desespoir, the first part is of Wazekwa, but the second part a remix of an old song from 1982 called Mille Soucis, in the same album he gave songs like Porte Monnaie, Koweit Rive Gauche and Papa Bonheur. But he didn't receive a shout-out, Koffi just wrote his name in the booklet along side Manu Lima, Rigo Star, Do Akongo and Clovis K. to thank them. Wazekwa wanted to brag about giving songs to Koffi to his friends and relatives, but most Congolese people don't buy cd's. That's why in Noblesse Oblige he went to insist to Koffi to give him a shout-out and Koffi mentioning his name twice in the seben-part of Papa Plus.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: archos on November 01, 2020, 22:03
koffi and wazekwa worked directly and undirectly on three different albums and like mfumu says koffi being a writer himself likes to have his own touch and sometimes can take away a part of your text and put it in a song years after ,onlyusing  a part of your song or he can take your songs like it is and re phrase words 
on a funny note that technique also helps him in case of writers complaining he'd be like " vraiment veut dire est ce que eza maloba moko quoi bino moko bo comparer"
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 01, 2020, 22:16
something like 4/5 songs. Song like Papa Plus, Doless (Herode Mandiangu gave it to Koffi Olomide, as gift in order that he would participate in his album in future, Koffi not knowing that Wazekwa gave it to Herode for his album) and Kramogo. The difference with other artists is that Koffi always add his part in those songs and mix them. He did the same things with the few songs Wazekwa gave to him in Koweit Rive Gauche. In Desespoir, the first part is of Wazekwa, but the second part a remix of an old song from 1982 called Mille Soucis, in the same album he gave songs like Porte Monnaie, Koweit Rive Gauche and Papa Bonheur. But he didn't receive a shout-out, Koffi just wrote his name in the booklet along side Manu Lima, Rigo Star, Do Akongo and Clovis K. to thank them. Wazekwa wanted to brag about giving songs to Koffi to his friends and relatives, but most Congolese people don't buy cd's. That's why in Noblesse Oblige he went to insist to Koffi to give him a shout-out and Koffi mentioning his name twice in the seben-part of Papa Plus.

Wow. So Doless was written by Wazekwa? That's crazy. Like everybody, I always thought it came from Duc Herode.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 01, 2020, 22:48
I will never forget the angry call Wazekwa received from Koffi. "Aah, obebisi ba nzembo. Vieux wana abebisi ba nzembo. Mutu wana aza na mongongo te, nga mutu crakisaka ba momie. Omoni te que Reference ebeba, hein, Omoni te ndenge 10eme Commandement ebeba". hahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGOp65HDmI

from 1:47 min
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Drumstar98 on November 02, 2020, 00:59
Monsieur Raison is the reaction to Loufouloukari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjyk0HKXbrY&ab_channel=Verckys-Topic

And Mbuta Mutu is another attack song towards Evoloko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKqBvG9ofpA&ab_channel=lekkerdammer
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 02, 2020, 01:29
Monsieur Raison is the reaction to Loufouloukari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjyk0HKXbrY&ab_channel=Verckys-Topic

And Mbuta Mutu is another attack song towards Evoloko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKqBvG9ofpA&ab_channel=lekkerdammer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OhR-Kh3dY8k

You got also this one from Evoloko against Zaïko  and in the second part (from 3:19 to 5:37 min) he’s singing about his though time in Isifi when DV Muanda used to attack him “batia nga esprit ya ngulu na nzoto, batia nga esprit ya ngando po naliaka bana eeh, batia mpese na cerveau pona koma kizengi eeh, batia nzinzi na litoyi pona yokaka te,  bakanga nga na mpungu ya Bazombo po nalalaka jamais ooh”
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Drumstar98 on November 02, 2020, 01:38
Ah yes, I forgot about the song Moyeke that's when Bozi Boziana, Ben Nyamabo, Roxy and Esperant left.

It was really harsh Evoloko telling the sound engineer to turn off Ben Nyamabo's microphone despite Ben giving Langa Langa Stars gifts.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 02, 2020, 01:58
I don’t remember who said it, but Bozi Boziana or Djuna Djanana said that it wasn’t Evoloko like everybody thought but Verckys’s order to put Ben Nyamabo’s mic on off.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Sydo on November 02, 2020, 09:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9kXorogfxI

"Bisalela", not my favorite diss, but I wanted to post this.
It was written by Simaro for Mandrandele Tanzi's widow.

Prosper Mandrandele was a minister in Mobutu's time. He got sick in 1974, during a trip in Lubumbashi. Shortly his death and burial, his widow forgot everything and started drinking and dancing in night clubs everyday.

Bomba-Bomba Mabe is also a diss for the widow.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Nyumu Wa Mukiti on November 02, 2020, 11:23
Please let me add this one as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2y1-TUeX7Y

S.O.S Maya released after the 1988 split and was directed at one Verckys Kiamwangana Mateta who had apparently gotten them into a Contract with very unfair terms and was tantamount to slavery. It is also rumored that Verckys was at the time also seeing Nyoka's wife or something. They recorded the diss song using Orch Veve instruments in the process angering Verckys causing him to take away the instruments. What followed thereafter was a difficult and unforgettable 9 months' period for them.

Teka ngai mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - Sell me so that yo can earn money
Kumba Yogo ee na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - take / carry Dindo Yogo to Tipo Tipo market (an old Zanzibar market where slaves were traded long time ago).
Mpo na mbongo ee - because of money
Oko manage kopanza mabala ya bato - you have even tried to split people's marriages
Teka Zaiko - sell Zaiko
Mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - so that you earn money
Sambuisa, sambuisa DV na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - humiliate / embarrass D.V. Moanda
Mpo na mbongo mama aa - because of money.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: CM PRINCE on November 02, 2020, 12:35
https://youtu.be/GPlob8MNoP0
I also wanna add this one, it’s not strong but it’s pretty funny and ironic.
Here he disses Fally, Koffi, Ferre, Robinio, Ibrator and Carine Mokonzi
At first I didn’t like it but it grew on me. 
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 02, 2020, 19:48
Please let me add this one as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2y1-TUeX7Y

S.O.S Maya released after the 1988 split and was directed at one Verckys Kiamwangana Mateta who had apparently gotten them into a Contract with very unfair terms and was tantamount to slavery. It is also rumored that Verckys was at the time also seeing Nyoka's wife or something. They recorded the diss song using Orch Veve instruments in the process angering Verckys causing him to take away the instruments. What followed thereafter was a difficult and unforgettable 9 months' period for them.

Teka ngai mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - Sell me so that yo can earn money
Kumba Yogo ee na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - take / carry Dindo Yogo to Tipo Tipo market (an old Zanzibar market where slaves were traded long time ago).
Mpo na mbongo ee - because of money
Oko manage kopanza mabala ya bato - you have even tried to split people's marriages
Teka Zaiko - sell Zaiko
Mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - so that you earn money
Sambuisa, sambuisa DV na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - humiliate / embarrass D.V. Moanda
Mpo na mbongo mama aa - because of money.


The 1982-version of SOS Maya was meant for Verckys Kiamuagana, but the version of 1989 was meant for Ali Bongo's (the late president of Gabon) cousin "Le Panther Ngossana". Who used to sponsor Zaiko from 1984 to 1988 and who renovated Zaiko's headquarter of then called Mayi Elika, after the renovation it became Ngoss Club. Nyoka Longo accused him in the press for being behind Zaiko's split, after choising Zaiko Familia Dei's side. Tabu Ley used to support Nyoka Longo, because in that era, Ngossana stole Mbilia Bel who was Tabu Ley's second wife, Mbilia then becoming Ngossana's third wife (I though that Ado Yuhe would ask about that, but it didn't happen). That's why they sung "boye kopanza mabala ya bato".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeFRWABqCB8

the original version of the funky-era (1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwAhqxbo9jM

the remix version of 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ROyqVw0MqM

this videoclips was made in 1997. In this scene from 00:00 to 00:48 they tried to ridicule him
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Paysan Congolais on November 03, 2020, 04:16
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The 1982-version of SOS Maya was meant for Verckys Kiamuagana, but the version of 1989 was meant for Ali Bongo's (the late president of Gabon) cousin "Le Panther Ngossana". Who used to sponsor Zaiko from 1984 to 1988 and who renovated Zaiko's headquarter of then called Mayi Elika, after the renovation it became Ngoss Club. Nyoka Longo accused him in the press for being behind Zaiko's split, after choising Zaiko Familia Dei's side. Tabu Ley used to support Nyoka Longo, because in that era, Ngossana stole Mbilia Bel who was Tabu Ley's second wife, Mbilia then becoming Ngossana's third wife (I though that Ado Yuhe would ask about that, but it didn't happen). That's why they sung "boye kopanza mabala ya bato".



Ado Yuhe being Ado Yuhe... SMH.

I'll assume the 'Sans Frontière' song was about that man?
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Nyumu Wa Mukiti on November 03, 2020, 13:03
Please let me add this one as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2y1-TUeX7Y

S.O.S Maya released after the 1988 split and was directed at one Verckys Kiamwangana Mateta who had apparently gotten them into a Contract with very unfair terms and was tantamount to slavery. It is also rumored that Verckys was at the time also seeing Nyoka's wife or something. They recorded the diss song using Orch Veve instruments in the process angering Verckys causing him to take away the instruments. What followed thereafter was a difficult and unforgettable 9 months' period for them.

Teka ngai mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - Sell me so that yo can earn money
Kumba Yogo ee na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - take / carry Dindo Yogo to Tipo Tipo market (an old Zanzibar market where slaves were traded long time ago).
Mpo na mbongo ee - because of money
Oko manage kopanza mabala ya bato - you have even tried to split people's marriages
Teka Zaiko - sell Zaiko
Mpo ozua mbongo mama aa - so that you earn money
Sambuisa, sambuisa DV na zando ya Tipo Tipo mama aa - humiliate / embarrass D.V. Moanda
Mpo na mbongo mama aa - because of money.


The 1982-version of SOS Maya was meant for Verckys Kiamuagana, but the version of 1989 was meant for Ali Bongo's (the late president of Gabon) cousin "Le Panther Ngossana". Who used to sponsor Zaiko from 1984 to 1988 and who renovated Zaiko's headquarter of then called Mayi Elika, after the renovation it became Ngoss Club. Nyoka Longo accused him in the press for being behind Zaiko's split, after choising Zaiko Familia Dei's side. Tabu Ley used to support Nyoka Longo, because in that era, Ngossana stole Mbilia Bel who was Tabu Ley's second wife, Mbilia then becoming Ngossana's third wife (I though that Ado Yuhe would ask about that, but it didn't happen). That's why they sung "boye kopanza mabala ya bato".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeFRWABqCB8

the original version of the funky-era (1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwAhqxbo9jM

the remix version of 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ROyqVw0MqM

this videoclips was made in 1997. In this scene from 00:00 to 00:48 they tried to ridicule him

Thank you Mfumu Vata for the clarification.
Title: Re: WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE DISSTRACKS IN THE GENRE? HERE’S MINE
Post by: Mfumu Vata on November 03, 2020, 16:49
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The 1982-version of SOS Maya was meant for Verckys Kiamuagana, but the version of 1989 was meant for Ali Bongo's (the late president of Gabon) cousin "Le Panther Ngossana". Who used to sponsor Zaiko from 1984 to 1988 and who renovated Zaiko's headquarter of then called Mayi Elika, after the renovation it became Ngoss Club. Nyoka Longo accused him in the press for being behind Zaiko's split, after choising Zaiko Familia Dei's side. Tabu Ley used to support Nyoka Longo, because in that era, Ngossana stole Mbilia Bel who was Tabu Ley's second wife, Mbilia then becoming Ngossana's third wife (I though that Ado Yuhe would ask about that, but it didn't happen). That's why they sung "boye kopanza mabala ya bato".



Ado Yuhe being Ado Yuhe... SMH.

I'll assume the 'Sans Frontière' song was about that man?

yeah