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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on December 09, 2020, 17:15

Title: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 09, 2020, 17:15
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 09, 2020, 17:19
JAPONAISSSSS , WATA DELIVERS WITH THE GENERIQUE BRING ON THE ALBUM
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Paysan Congolais on December 09, 2020, 17:23
After a first listen, I will say not bad.

It's good enough to listen to it again.

Things are looking good for the album.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 09, 2020, 18:26
Good generique but the clip kind of disappointed me...too bland.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 09, 2020, 18:32
Good generique but the clip kind of disappointed me...too bland.

indeed and what i dont understand with wata is that he just seems like somebody who cant dance, he's been in 5 or so generiques now and not even once i have heard "ehh wata abini fort hein "
these guys must stop that i am a leader so i should dance with  too much control, nobody is asking them to dance like prime fabregas who danced like he was sentenced to death and had a last day to dance so he threw extra energy in it but come on
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on December 09, 2020, 18:42
lol Fabro....yeah true, he doesn't seem bothered, kk ba fier.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 09, 2020, 18:44
Clip kitoko, the Generique is decent.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 09, 2020, 18:46
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

4:52

https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

6:14

Is almost the same guitar lick




7:13

https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

5:24

https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4




8:37
https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

6:10

https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

Japonais lol stop listening to Extra's old songs man


How could Héritier not see that Japonais basically copied the last three minutes of the Générique by Success Extra of Extra Musica? Earlier in the Audio version I though he copied from G7 but I was wrong he copied it from Extra



(https://i.postimg.cc/nhSWmHZd/IMG-20201209-194329-111.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: CM PRINCE on December 09, 2020, 18:46
Good generique but the clip kind of disappointed me...too bland.

indeed and what i dont understand with wata is that he just seems like somebody who cant dance, he's been in 5 or so generiques now and not even once i have heard "ehh wata abini fort hein "
these guys must stop that i am a leader so i should dance with  too much control, nobody is asking them to dance like prime fabregas who danced like he was sentenced to death and had a last day to dance so he threw extra energy in it but come on
Lol you're forgetting wata is the same guy that was only doing the koyimbi ko dance in his 14 years in WMM  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: philipkafuto on December 09, 2020, 23:41
Good generique but the clip kind of disappointed me...too bland.

indeed and what i dont understand with wata is that he just seems like somebody who cant dance, he's been in 5 or so generiques now and not even once i have heard "ehh wata abini fort hein "
these guys must stop that i am a leader so i should dance with  too much control, nobody is asking them to dance like prime fabregas who danced like he was sentenced to death and had a last day to dance so he threw extra energy in it but come on
Lol you're forgetting wata is the same guy that was only doing the koyimbi ko dance in his 14 years in WMM  ;D ;D
Wata is not that good at freestyle dances but is really good at choreography. Something is telling me that he wanted to look more cool in this video
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on December 10, 2020, 00:18
Mmmm no no no Wata is good at free style dances though he mostly does 1 dance, he is really good, I don't to post his dance clips lol...... My point is not to say you are wrong, I am just saying he should drop the pride and dance.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Wenge1995 on December 10, 2020, 00:37
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

4:52

https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

6:14

Is almost the same guitar lick




7:13

https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

5:24

https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4




8:37
https://youtu.be/xnEhrvsELJ4

6:10

https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

Japonais lol stop listening to Extra's old songs man


How could Héritier not see that Japonais basically copied the last three minutes of the Générique by Success Extra of Extra Musica? Earlier in the Audio version I though he copied from G7 but I was wrong he copied it from Extra



(https://i.postimg.cc/nhSWmHZd/IMG-20201209-194329-111.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Damn, good ear! I didn't even catch that lmao
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 10, 2020, 01:31
i kinda get where you guys see as similar i'd say japonais' part sounds like mi solo to what roga did
like i said above there are cases like that where you just cant certify one sat and copied the other but it sounds similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfo2xqVvSqg
https://youtu.be/bbUTh6ct2a8
 at 1 30
https://youtu.be/WELAKmf2Awc at 4 20
there are hundreds of cases like that if you pay close attention to every generique around
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on December 10, 2020, 10:40
Generiques nowadays always have "that something" missing from it either a catchy cri or memorable guitar partition that will make someone want to it repeatedly. I will just wait for the rumbas from Wata.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 10, 2020, 11:08
I must admit I’ve been playing the generique a lot already but I do agree none of them are ever perfect, even this one it’s missing that POWERFUL atalaku like bill for example to come in and make the song 10/10 and I feel the loss of bercy is really felt here.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 10, 2020, 12:09
Who is the animator from 1:58-3:10?
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 10, 2020, 12:30
thats grada gradel, former private writer for brigade,gentamicine and few others
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 10, 2020, 12:45
Thanks Archos, his part is my favourite you can tell he knows what he’s doing
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: shamala on December 10, 2020, 16:28
Generiques nowadays always have "that something" missing from it either a catchy cri or memorable guitar partition that will make someone want to it repeatedly. I will just wait for the rumbas from Wata.

Very correct...it is like talent is running out
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Wenge1995 on December 10, 2020, 16:48
i kinda get where you guys see as similar i'd say japonais' part sounds like mi solo to what roga did
like i said above there are cases like that where you just cant certify one sat and copied the other but it sounds similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfo2xqVvSqg
https://youtu.be/bbUTh6ct2a8
 at 1 30
https://youtu.be/WELAKmf2Awc at 4 20
there are hundreds of cases like that if you pay close attention to every generique around

What happened to Bercy? Why did he leave the team? Did he have cries for the album or will they be deleted
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Manzambi94 on December 10, 2020, 17:20
Guys about Wata dancing he have always danced like that to be honest I have felt the same way but Wata danced like that even in his Maison Mère days check at this clip of when there were Brigade, Prince, and Celeo on the stage he dances almost the exact same way he did in that Ambulance crie

https://youtu.be/l6IW_CuQun4

6:29

https://youtu.be/2ve2gbTJcWo

4:03 and 4:17



https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

00:08

Basically the same dance, his not ki ba fier is his way of dancing he problably feel good dancing that way



What make a générique danceable, not danceable but make you feel the energy in the video is usually the Atalaku singing like he is about to die (Brigade is a good example with the way goes down when he sings)

https://youtu.be/6ykjDQNl0Gc

11:21

 or when an Atalaku can dance like Bill

https://youtu.be/DG7xWyDVBXM
04:27

Here the dancing


From 4:24 you can feel the Atalaku of Bill singing with passion and from 4:27 and after Seeing Bill doing that dance movement with the most passion ever

https://youtu.be/4r5HzlV8kBs

or when you have a great dancer stepping in look at Willy Zola for example

https://youtu.be/t-UyOuVpyvU

Willy Zola from 2:52 and 2:57

 or all the guys in Villa Nova when they dance even the mbonda player comes with energy
1:49
https://youtu.be/4HHH6a6Hdgs

https://youtu.be/4HHH6a6Hdgs

And from 2:03 until to 2:44

 look at how all the components give their own taste of the Manger crie interprétation


Or in Usine

https://youtu.be/f3FP0KLBqV4

00:51 look at how everybody is giving their best at dancing NGL this is one of the funniest dance I have ever seen



LM Villa Nova and the Two Wenges are the only groups that I can think of where everybody comes with energy even QL but they only have done it in Loi and Inthe Effrakata Album with Gilba sebene and the last two minutes of Generation Bercy being the most energyful ones
5:45 even in the rumba part you feel the energy

Then at the sebene it is hard not to dance only by watching how the guys dance in the video


Look at how from 5:56 Fally and Bouro destroy totally everyone with the dance

https://youtu.be/DYq7K35n1rM

06:54 look at how Fally, Jordan, Bouro etc. Freestyle Dancing is making you feel that passion




The problem with Ambulance is that he does have the passion to make the Atalaku that is there with crie Daddy Daddy that's why the girl in the video went crazy that line and that guitar lick is sick really good and Ambulance killed it (in a great way) but if you check him from the video you can see he is not a dancer and the things he does seems forced

Like at 1:22 you can see his clearly forced the way he moves and Ambulance does a good job vocally but comparing it to his earlier work it is not the same

Damn look at that 4:40 dance move by Bill

https://youtu.be/4r5HzlV8kBs

With that said the guy Héritier needed to bring that spark in a générique is not Bercy but Avatar


4:38 damn this crie is so perfect
Is not a total Avatar crie but his double and the way he repeat the crie After are so great
https://youtu.be/9CMz6Z-c3o8

At  5:40 - 6:10 both vocally and visually check how Avatar changes the song
https://youtu.be/LdwFNMdUQu4
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 10, 2020, 17:24
i kinda get where you guys see as similar i'd say japonais' part sounds like mi solo to what roga did
like i said above there are cases like that where you just cant certify one sat and copied the other but it sounds similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfo2xqVvSqg
https://youtu.be/bbUTh6ct2a8
 at 1 30
https://youtu.be/WELAKmf2Awc at 4 20
there are hundreds of cases like that if you pay close attention to every generique around

What happened to Bercy? Why did he leave the team? Did he have cries for the album or will they be deleted

yes he went solo he had two generiques which he refuses to release to avoid bercy then running his mouth that he is the one making the album shine and all that
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: shamala on December 10, 2020, 17:41
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4

They dance way better
https://www.facebook.com/Heritierwatanabeoff/videos/423671252093768
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 10, 2020, 17:57
I agree the man missing is actually Brandon Avatar now I think about it he has that POWER and range that the generique was missing to make it perfect
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Congolitude on December 10, 2020, 22:13
Now it seems like Heritier will not release anymore the vol2 (mi-demon) the 18th december. Maybe his strategy its to release the vol 2 in 2021...
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Jdog on December 11, 2020, 05:53
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4
I don't think he wanted to release it before the album as the song isn't even available on digital platforms as a single but since the song got leaked his people were like might as well put out the video.

As for the video, it's good but I feel like it should've had some type of Angel and Demon story line to match the song and the title of the song. And at times it felt like the camera was far from the dancers, you couldn't really tell who's in it.

As for the song, I like it very danceable, Japonais did his thing on the guitar. I'm not feeling the tenor animator really, Heritier might have to get a new one. Gradel has some promise, keep an eye on him. The part with Plata is my favorite part sounds like an old school sebene, nice and easy dance for the older crowd.
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Jdog on December 11, 2020, 05:55
Good generique but the clip kind of disappointed me...too bland.

indeed and what i dont understand with wata is that he just seems like somebody who cant dance, he's been in 5 or so generiques now and not even once i have heard "ehh wata abini fort hein "
these guys must stop that i am a leader so i should dance with  too much control, nobody is asking them to dance like prime fabregas who danced like he was sentenced to death and had a last day to dance so he threw extra energy in it but come on
Na ndenge ya respect, what video were you watching? Heritier danced pretty good, it's been on my mind and I'll make a thread soon on leaders who have danced really well in their videos. 
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: BienMat23 on December 11, 2020, 07:32
https://youtu.be/vZAgk-1mID4
I don't think he wanted to release it before the album as the song isn't even available on digital platforms as a single but since the song got leaked his people were like might as well put out the video.

As for the video, it's good but I feel like it should've had some type of Angel and Demon story line to match the song and the title of the song. And at times it felt like the camera was far from the dancers, you couldn't really tell who's in it.

As for the song, I like it very danceable, Japonais did his thing on the guitar. I'm not feeling the tenor animator really, Heritier might have to get a new one. Gradel has some promise, keep an eye on him. The part with Plata is my favorite part sounds like an old school sebene, nice and easy dance for the older crowd.
Jdog spot on with the analysis big boss
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: archos on December 11, 2020, 10:49
bro jdog  i did not say he did not dance maybe its like you say the shooting which gives me that vibe of him playing it safe like most leaders
indeed, its one of the the guys involved in shooting the video who was sent the song to do synopsis of the video who started leaking to people  and suddenly heritier started receiving hundreds then thousands of messages including from close friends then he said ok lets just make it official since people have listened and like
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on December 11, 2020, 12:24
bro jdog  i did not say he did not dance maybe its like you say the shooting which gives me that vibe of him playing it safe like most leaders
indeed, its one of the the guys involved in shooting the video who was sent the song to do synopsis of the video who started leaking to people  and suddenly heritier started receiving hundreds then thousands of messages including from close friends then he said ok lets just make it official since people have listened and like
Dont they sign something  like a "non disclosure agreement" to prevent these video guys from leaking songs before official release? I get why Koffi had that Video director (cant remember his name) arrested on suspicion that he was sharing his works with other leaders (Ferre to be specific).
Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: O-Afrika on December 11, 2020, 19:57
Mmmm no no no Wata is good at free style dances though he mostly does 1 dance, he is really good, I don't to post his dance clips lol...... My point is not to say you are wrong, I am just saying he should drop the pride and dance.

Good observation. Wats ain't a good freestyle dancer. Only does the same koyimbo dance.

Title: Re: NEW CLIP GENERIQUE HERITIER WATA MI ANGE MI DEMON
Post by: Jdog on December 15, 2020, 22:51
After listening to this generique for a week now, I like Tshandoa @1:57, he sounds a bit like Brigade.
Mmmm no no no Wata is good at free style dances though he mostly does 1 dance, he is really good, I don't to post his dance clips lol...... My point is not to say you are wrong, I am just saying he should drop the pride and dance.

Good observation. Wats ain't a good freestyle dancer. Only does the same koyimbo dance.


Yeah Heritier is a good choreographed dancer but when it comes to solo dances it's the same old koyimbi ko stuff.