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Title: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 17, 2021, 02:31
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugwgn-oJCPVLzz60S7l4AaABCQ
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Matebu on January 17, 2021, 02:47
Invitation nani? Video deleted
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2021, 03:37
They accidentally uploaded it too early, it will get uploaded later on in the day.

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Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Manzambi94 on January 17, 2021, 07:21
Is gonna be fun
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 17, 2021, 12:49
i have a feeling he will say somethign which will cause polemic with celeo again,he never disappoints in that
and he will also answer about how he used to diss wazekwa because of gesac and things like that
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2021, 15:06
https://youtu.be/ey14emiTxEk
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 17, 2021, 15:44
i dont think somebody would ever top bill in terms of self praise in ado's show
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on January 17, 2021, 17:29
i dont think somebody would ever top bill in terms of self praise in ado's show

Kibens lol
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on January 17, 2021, 17:30
Just finish watching this....this guy loves to minimise Celeo’s input in MM.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2021, 17:37
i dont think somebody would ever top bill in terms of self praise in ado's show

Kibens lol
I was literally about to say Kibens too lol. Kibens does his in such a passive way, acting as if he's not doing it but he really is doing it loool.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 17, 2021, 17:47
Lol kibens one is indeed softer,more like that soft arrogance some rich people have,while bill's is the typical big mouth,he literally belittled celeo like he was somebody lucky to be there who could have been replaced by anybody
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2021, 18:19
Lol kibens one is indeed softer,more like that soft arrogance some rich people have,while bill's is the typical big mouth,he literally belittled celeo like he was somebody lucky to be there who could have been replaced by anybody
But its true though, in Intervention Rapide and Solola Bien Celeo's participation was so small and minimal, he could've easily been replaced. During their whole time together in Maison Mere Bill got a lot more space, in the first 2 years of the group Celeo was practically irrelevant, it was all about Bill.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on January 17, 2021, 18:28
Lol kibens one is indeed softer,more like that soft arrogance some rich people have,while bill's is the typical big mouth,he literally belittled celeo like he was somebody lucky to be there who could have been replaced by anybody
But its true though, in Intervention Rapide and Solola Bien Celeo's participation was so small and minimal, he could've easily been replaced. During their whole time together in Maison Mere Bill got a lot more space, in the first 2 years of the group Celeo was practically irrelevant, it was all about Bill.

His minimal participation was the choice of the group leader not because Celeo was bad or wasn’t good enough. Bill was just lucky that he was more liked and given more chance than Celeo by Werra by default and his connection with Tutu Kaluji also influenced Werra to use him more. We all know what happened when Celeo started to get more space, the rest is history.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2021, 18:46
This interview was sooo boring and disappointing, he literally didn't say a lot. I already know part 2 is gonna also be boring.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 17, 2021, 21:01
ado seems to mess interviews up when he is too much in admiration of his guest or talking like they are friends as much as i dont like him cutting guests like a robot to finish his classic questions sometimes him and the guest get distracted into something and by the time they are over it 20 minutes is gone,i wonder how it will be if he interviews his close friend genta
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: SLK97 on January 17, 2021, 21:15
This interview was sooo boring and disappointing, he literally didn't say a lot. I already know part 2 is gonna also be boring.

Basically almost every recent Ado Yuhe interview in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Lamusica on January 18, 2021, 03:43
ado seems to mess interviews up when he is too much in admiration of his guest or talking like they are friends as much as i dont like him cutting guests like a robot to finish his classic questions sometimes him and the guest get distracted into something and by the time they are over it 20 minutes is gone,i wonder how it will be if he interviews his close friend genta
Kalonji is very charismatic; he had Ado by the finger the minute he walk on the set. You could tell Ado was in awe the whole time. Mbote ebimaki très tôt na emission lol.

On the other note, Bill makes his stories quite believable. Great story teller but you can also tell he's a great bullshiter.

Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 18, 2021, 07:13
Bill Clinton lied alot many cries weren't even created by him. They came from folkloric bands based in Bumbu, Ngiri-Ngiri, Selembao & Makala. Himself going on his own there sometimes to get those cries.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 18, 2021, 10:57
yes even he got animation from many guys who became professionnal atalakus later(bercy muana,fusee,paolo standard and other guys)
his main difference with other atalakus of his generation or of all times is his ability to do animation in several languages(surely in normal life he is also somebody who learns languages easily which helps him doing that)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 18, 2021, 11:23
Bill claimed that BCBG stole his cri "position the tir" and other cris of Intervention Rapide, to destabilize him. But he forgot that they were all already animated in Wenge 4x4. Just watch the VHS of Wenge 4x4 in Kenya, Abidjan, YMCA and Inter. Also position the tir was Boketshu 1er's cri.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on January 18, 2021, 12:11
Bill claimed that BCBG stole his cri "position the tir" and other cris of Intervention Rapide, to destabilize him. But he forgot that they were all already animated in Wenge 4x4. Just watch the VHS of Wenge 4x4 in Kenya, Abidjan, YMCA and Inter. Also position the tir was Boketshu 1er's cri.

many people will blindly believe all he said based on their admiration while abuki ba lokuta forttt
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 24, 2021, 22:47
Just finish watching this....this guy loves to minimise Celeo’s input in MM.

Yes it was quite sad and Ado instead of checking him he was laughing along, if I was Celeo I would have roasted Bill
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 24, 2021, 22:51
Plus I have spoken to my Senegalese friend and he said that not even a single word of Bill in Miromi except.one is Wolof so Bill bullshited the way tneough
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on February 24, 2021, 22:55
Plus I have spoken to my Senegalese friend and he said that not even a single word of Bill except.one is Wolof so Bill bullshited the way tneough

its not wolof,its haoussa from north of cameroon bill has been living of that lie until today
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on February 24, 2021, 23:29
He was exposed 2 years ago on facebook and youtube, we also talked about it on Congovibes. I forgot the name of the artist was something with mackadal or something like that. Now I wonder if Kerozene also lied of animating in Bambara (a language in Mali) in Affaire d'Etat and Zulu (maybe its in Xhosa) in Effrakata (that cri was of Washington btw who animated it in Affaire Tonya Tonya).

Is the song Madame la Torture also in Haussa ? Someone said that Bill stole that part in Madame la Torture from atalaku Sangoku, who back in 2000/01 won an atalaku-contest organised by Bracongo/Skol. Thinking about Bill's cri Miromi in Operation Dragon, maybe that the late Jean Pierre Saah requested him to that. Because Jean Pierre Saah is from Northern Cameroon.

Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on February 24, 2021, 23:42
https://youtu.be/WNUK_IGPqvE
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on February 25, 2021, 06:22
https://youtu.be/WNUK_IGPqvE
When was this done? Lol
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on February 25, 2021, 12:44
https://youtu.be/QbwYZEOZt4Q

about bill clinton,here is an interview of jimmy mbonda insisting that like he said in his interview with ado it was tutu caludji who was originally nicknamed bill clinton, and its guys like polystar coreen who  said " petit oyo azo buaka neti bill clinton" to say that bill sounded like caludji 
while you see until today bill ridiculing caludji at every given opportunity
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: CM PRINCE on February 25, 2021, 14:28
https://youtu.be/QbwYZEOZt4Q

about bill clinton,here is an interview of jimmy mbonda insisting that like he said in his interview with ado it was tutu caludji who was originally nicknamed bill clinton, and its guys like polystar coreen who  said " petit oyo azo buaka neti bill clinton" to say that bill sounded like caludji 
while you see until today bill ridiculing caludji at every given opportunity
Lol what did Tutu do to bill? Did he snub him or deny a featuring or something? lol
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on February 25, 2021, 14:36
I think just complexe d'infériorité. With Congolese people it's often when they pass their masters or people who helped them in the past, that they start to humilate them every opportuninty. We saw that also with Koffi Olomide who did everything to humilate him behind the scenes when he was top, even in the days that Wemba was down until he died.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on February 25, 2021, 14:49
just finished watching jimmy's interview its quite interesting,so he almost joined maison mere in the beginning but his friend ali when he heard about werra's plan to sneak him in as a guest in concerts then progressively axe ali mbonda openly confronted him and mocked him which made him leave to try and join bcbg instead on advice of  pathy bass  and itb minos
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on February 26, 2021, 14:54
https://youtu.be/QbwYZEOZt4Q

about bill clinton,here is an interview of jimmy mbonda insisting that like he said in his interview with ado it was tutu caludji who was originally nicknamed bill clinton, and its guys like polystar coreen who  said " petit oyo azo buaka neti bill clinton" to say that bill sounded like caludji 
while you see until today bill ridiculing caludji at every given opportunity

About Jimmy saying that Werrason was about to recruit him to do 12 on Ali Mbonda, who had started to criticize the way things were going on in Maison Mere before Intervention Rapide. Why can't bandleader never accept some criticism?

Also why didn't BCBG bring Nassice Konga to Bataclan who used to be Ali Mbonda's reserve in Wenge 4x4 ? Were they thinking that he would run away, like he would do after Zenith ?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: archos on February 26, 2021, 15:09
yes they were worried that he'd run away since even in africa he was not going he's the only 4X4 member who never went abroad
jb had even tasked seguin to watch him closely but seguin at some point was not paying attention he was enjoying ba cheries and allowed him to run away to go another french city
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 27, 2021, 12:33
Maybe Bill lied about the Miromi animation cause of problems with Jean Pierre Say could this be the case? Going back on the interview is almost 200 k views and this show how much impact Bill had.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Kalonji finally accepted Ado's invitation
Post by: Mfumu Vata on February 27, 2021, 12:51
Problems with Jean Pierre Saah ? Bill didn’t had any problems with the late Jean Pierre Saah. Btw Bill started claiming that it was Wolof in that video they made after Adolphe’s departure.