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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Manzambi94 on February 02, 2021, 16:53

Title: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 02, 2021, 16:53
https://youtu.be/FtAbxtXemr0
343.400 views in three days for a song who has been out as audio for months
https://youtu.be/2j0Y0-nM0i8
238.400 views in three weeks for a song that at the time was new and the comment in the Nouvel Horizon even dissing Riga to some extent, I am sorry for him but it is over, Nouvel Horizon will have a lot of open doors, since they seem to be a group where aren't leadership issues (mainly becuase they are under a label, because we know how it would have turned out without one).
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on February 05, 2021, 14:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsfHDtMTfVU I doubt your point here.
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on February 05, 2021, 16:16
Manzambi when are you releasing some music yourself so we can talk about yours views ;D
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 05, 2021, 16:25
Manzambi when are you releasing some music yourself so we can talk about yours views ;D

Lol, I will not release music for the next two years but I will come back with a three song Maxi Single

But I am releasing a book soon and then you could judge me on how much that book sales lol
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 05, 2021, 16:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsfHDtMTfVU I doubt your point here.

Yes but Horizon have that spark and people love them organically ROGA Riga star is starting to die
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Mfumu Vata on February 05, 2021, 17:01
We can't say that it's over for Roga Roga. Roga Roga has now a dip now, but the difference between Rogatien and Nouvel Horizon is Roga having a solo-career and Nouvel Horizon being a band. We have seen in the history of Congolese music that legends like Tabu Ley, Papa Wemba and King Kester Emeneya had dips of 3 years some even more than 5 years, but made a strong comeback. Nouvel Horizon can split every moment. Its rare to see rebel-band last more than 5 years. Back in 2006, they also said that Roga Roga was finished, but they already split before he could react.
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Monsieur Congo on February 05, 2021, 17:58
So someones over because of their number of views?  ;D ;D ;D LOOOL Views doesn't mean anything  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on February 06, 2021, 00:04
To some extent I get Manzambi's point, we will ignore those views but they save as a new system to prove who is selling currently, I know we wouldn't love to accept this cause people do not like change, but this is the same system used in US Tv stations etc those series we love are renewed not based on how good they are made, but based on how much views they attract. Like it or not views matter more than anything currently, there is no point of being good if there isn't anyone consuming your work. Even those artists they don't put those videos online for fun, they want those views like nothing else. People currently prefer Nouvel Horizon over Roga's extra I think its mainly because of atalakus
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Wenge1995 on February 06, 2021, 06:08
https://youtu.be/lpGVzGHOlpE

Damn, his voice never quite recovered. Listen from 4:33, but I would still love to see a reunion concert with the entire group from their 1996 lineup
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 07, 2021, 08:11
To some extent I get Manzambi's point, we will ignore those views but they save as a new system to prove who is selling currently, I know we wouldn't love to accept this cause people do not like change, but this is the same system used in US Tv stations etc those series we love are renewed not based on how good they are made, but based on how much views they attract. Like it or not views matter more than anything currently, there is no point of being good if there isn't anyone consuming your work. Even those artists they don't put those videos online for fun, they want those views like nothing else. People currently prefer Nouvel Horizon over Roga's extra I think its mainly because of atalakus

It's not just Atalakus but their whole vibe, I have followed an Interview of Roga and his new Extra Musica and was quite sad to watch, the typical answers to difficult questions who don't address the problem and just make the leader look good, they asked him Roga why your views have dwindled? And him well because they buy their views, another question was Roga why Congolese Brazzaville Music isn't popping like in the past? Oh that's fake you say that but I have message from Botswanese people in my DMs so that's not true, the usual subtle diss to Sonor and Ramatoulaye calling the New Drummer Sans Alcohol lol etc. And to be honest is boring to see a grown man play the victim and never addressing his wrong doings plus bro, it was so sad to watch the group laugh at command whatever Roga said you could see that they were total Muppets under Roga control
But at least he admitted Durell Loeumba, Espe Bass and Him where the co-founder of Extra Musica



https://youtu.be/T51vBIOTijk


While watch the vibe Papy Bastin and Ramatoulaye have
3:19

https://youtu.be/FtAbxtXemr0

https://youtu.be/F7hhV1ubHNI
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Manzambi94 on February 07, 2021, 08:28
So someones over because of their number of views?  ;D ;D ;D LOOOL Views doesn't mean anything  ;D

I always wonder why guys with high pitch singing style in Congolese music end up losing their voice after a wild.
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Paysan Congolais on February 07, 2021, 11:35
https://youtu.be/lpGVzGHOlpE

Damn, his voice never quite recovered. Listen from 4:33, but I would still love to see a reunion concert with the entire group from their 1996 lineup

Wow. This is really sad. He totally lost it.
Title: Re: IT'S OVER FOR ROGA
Post by: Wenge1995 on February 07, 2021, 16:21
We can't say that it's over for Roga Roga. Roga Roga has now a dip now, but the difference between Rogatien and Nouvel Horizon is Roga having a solo-career and Nouvel Horizon being a band. We have seen in the history of Congolese music that legends like Tabu Ley, Papa Wemba and King Kester Emeneya had dips of 3 years some even more than 5 years, but made a strong comeback. Nouvel Horizon can split every moment. Its rare to see rebel-band last more than 5 years. Back in 2006, they also said that Roga Roga was finished, but they already split before he could react.

What do you think Roga is missing? Is his band too afraid to push him give up a little creative control. It seems like Nouvelle Horizon is a group effort as opposed to Roga dictating to his band how they should sound.

People forget that Trop C'est Trop and Shalai sounded different from anything prior, because Roga gave Sonor more space to play. He let a mi-soloist play alongside them, instead of the standard set up