Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Mfumu Vata on February 07, 2021, 13:45
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bvONgW-Y9-c
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i did not expect that one AT ALLLLLLL the big 6 of wenge rarely accept interviews too centered on the history of wenge
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Nooooo wayyy I can’t wait to watch this.
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This looks to be one of the shortest interviews Ado’s done in a while.
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it seems like part one the way he did with brigade recently posting his quartier latin part and his maison mere part separately unlike other guys who have been in several groups who he interviewed
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Interesting interview. I also believe he will be back,he hardly touched on his and Makaba's departure from Wenge BCBG after the preparation of the album Titanic.
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it seems like part one the way he did with brigade recently posting his quartier latin part and his maison mere part separately unlike other guys who have been in several groups who he interviewed
I hope so, yeah I thought the same since Ado didn’t bring out the cocktails he likes so much lol
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Interesting interview. I also believe he will be back,he hardly touched on his and Makaba's departure from Wenge BCBG after the preparation of the album Titanic.
Sly did you ever listen to his album Rendekita?
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Interesting interview. I also believe he will be back,he hardly touched on his and Makaba's departure from Wenge BCBG after the preparation of the album Titanic.
Sly did you ever listen to his album Rendekita?
Yes,i felt disappointed because he didn't keep the generique and other sebenes the way he did them during rehearsals. The song i love on that album is Ted Tandai with the participation of Tutu Kaludji on animation, Vol 2 has some good songs.
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mannn i knew that soldiers did him dirty over monique kalala mama na naomie matshuda but never that it was that serious 8 men against him and a gun pointed at his head i almost shed a tear when he said about his missing teeth due to that " i dont lack money to solve that issue but i leave it like that like a memory of that moment and i forgive them i still see them and recognize them",takes a strong man to take such serious issues on the chin like that,many went very radical for way less
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mannn i knew that soldiers did him dirty over monique kalala mama na naomie matshuda but never that it was that serious 8 men against him and a gun pointed at his head i almost shed a tear when he said about his missing teeth due to that " i dont lack money to solve that issue but i leave it like that like a memory of that moment and i forgive them i still see them and recognize them",takes a strong man to take such serious issues on the chin like that,many went very radical for way less
yeah this story shocked me, i didn't know wow. Best interview so far, relaxed and you can feel and sense he spoke the truth about everything.
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Interesting interview. I also believe he will be back,he hardly touched on his and Makaba's departure from Wenge BCBG after the preparation of the album Titanic.
Sly did you ever listen to his album Rendekita?
Yes,i felt disappointed because he didn't keep the generique and other sebenes the way he did them during rehearsals. The song i love on that album is Ted Tandai with the participation of Tutu Kaludji on animation, Vol 2 has some good songs.
Really? I was totally satisfied, I thought it was the best album released in the past 10 years, Pire Pirate's sebene was fire with Makaba on the lead.
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mannn i knew that soldiers did him dirty over monique kalala mama na naomie matshuda but never that it was that serious 8 men against him and a gun pointed at his head i almost shed a tear when he said about his missing teeth due to that " i dont lack money to solve that issue but i leave it like that like a memory of that moment and i forgive them i still see them and recognize them",takes a strong man to take such serious issues on the chin like that,many went very radical for way less
yeah this story shocked me, i didn't know wow. Best interview so far, relaxed and you can feel and sense he spoke the truth about everything.
The soldier story broke my heart, I would not have the strength to forgive them, they even assaulted his dad smh. Blaise has been screwed over multiple times, he even got sick and no one in bcbg visited him at the hospital and just left him there.
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Could someone give a translation summary please too
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in short he is saying that he started developping taste for music at home with his mother singing in groups of praise for mobutu and when going to buy stuff he was hearing music of viva la musica and co then he made one step further in school groups until he came in wenge via jb and makaba and he was tested on a song of his own and they iiked it a lot so he joined them and ado asked whether it was not too hard for parents to accept and he said on his case what happened is that his parents were reassured knowing that jb werra and co's parents had a job of high responsability so they would not let their children become thugs like the reputation of musicians suggested
he threatened not to sing in mulolo because of a disagreement with the guys so they put young alain mpela then 17 to sing but his voice was not mature enough yet so he could not fill that role so they had to beg him to come and sing which he did
he said he has never been an official admin but he was just behind the 4 admins as chef of discipline and was asked about tutu caludji's suspension and admitted he did not remember well but for sure it was something wrong so he had to be punished
about salaries he said each of them 6 big names had their salaries depending on their status,then simple members also had a certain hierarchy in their salaries
he talked about how saddam was liking them a lot and giving them money and then also talked about his sad incident we mentioned above
he also explains whats according to him esprit wenge,respecting everybody but not fearing them,and certainly not letting them bully you and he says he misses those days of wenge 4X4 because there was true love even if today he has doubt whether it was comedy or genuine love given how hard it is for them to be anywhere near as close as in the past
He said that each of them wenge singers had his particularity and its that diversity of skills which created a big force,and his voice was very present in wenge's music because he was the first singer to sing in studio he was giving the direction of chorus under coordination of alain makaba then jb werra adolphe would sing next,then in the long run he started doing that "backbone of the chorus" role with alain mpela and aimelia before jb werra and adolphe stepped in,which is why until today its easy for him to reproduce wenge4X4 style of songs since he was the central voice in shaping the chorus,so it would be easier for him to find people to do kinda like jb,kinda like werra and so on
and he said alain makaba is an absolute genius of music could play every of the instruments sing tenor 1eme and 2eme voix but joked that his only artistic flaw was that he could not dance in sync with the music
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in short he is saying that he started developping taste for music at home with his mother singing in groups of praise for mobutu and when going to buy stuff he was hearing music of viva la musica and co then he made one step further in school groups until he came in wenge via jb and makaba and he was tested on a song of his own and they iiked it a lot so he joined them and ado asked whether it was not too hard for parents to accept and he said on his case what happened is that his parents were reassured knowing that jb werra and co's parents had a job of high responsability so they would not let their children become thugs like the reputation of musicians suggested
he threatened not to sing in mulolo because of a disagreement with the guys so they put young alain mpela then 17 to sing but his voice was not mature enough yet so he could not fill that role so they had to beg him to come and sing which he did
he said he has never been an official admin but he was just behind the 4 admins as chef of discipline and was asked about tutu caludji's suspension and admitted he did not remember well but for sure it was something wrong so he had to be punished
about salaries he said each of them 6 big names had their salaries depending on their status,then simple members also had a certain hierarchy in their salaries
he talked about how saddam was liking them a lot and giving them money and then also talked about his sad incident we mentioned above
he also explains whats according to him esprit wenge,respecting everybody but not fearing them,and certainly not letting them bully you and he says he misses those days of wenge 4X4 because there was true love even if today he has doubt whether it was comedy or genuine love given how hard it is for them to be anywhere near as close as in the past
He said that each of them wenge singers had his particularity and its that diversity of skills which created a big force,and his voice was very present in wenge's music because he was the first singer to sing in studio he was giving the direction of chorus under coordination of alain makaba then jb werra adolphe would sing next,then in the long run he started doing that "backbone of the chorus" role with alain mpela and aimelia before jb werra and adolphe stepped in,which is why until today its easy for him to reproduce wenge4X4 style of songs since he was the central voice in shaping the chorus,so it would be easier for him to find people to do kinda like jb,kinda like werra and so on
and he said alain makaba is an absolute genius of music could play every of the instruments sing tenor 1eme and 2eme voix but joked that his only artistic flaw was that he could not dance in sync with the music
Do you remember why Caludji was suspended? I'm assuming that's during their presentation of Pentagon when Ferre Gola interpreted his part for the studio concert. Was Ferre Gola considered a official member of Wenge Musica or was he just Werra's understudy
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he refused to give a gift to one of werra's guys so the guy to make him pay went and told werra that he insulted mampata so he got suspended,ferre was an official 4X4 member he went to ivory coast chad kenya with them and was planned to be in the next tour should wenge not split,just that as he arrived in the wrong moment he was not approaching those who were opposed to werra much and at the same time since tension was rising the other guys than werra did not have full focus on him like they'd normally have on a new member to clearly monitor his progression the way it was for those who arrived earlier
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Systeme ya prison break.
So its the promoter who faked their papers for them to get arrested for their first European. I always thought its themselves who faked their visas. Lol
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Guys can you translate for some of us, bcz you are now commenting without all of us understand what Blaise is saying. Can one of you admins care to make sure that if there is an interview such as this one, you will include everyone in the discussion and comments. That’s being said. What is Blaise Avila saying in this interview?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoMn0DOP2E
I knew that it would happen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoMn0DOP2E
I knew that it would happen
Given Blaise and Ferre's history during the separation, Blaise should have handled the Ferre question better coz he now seems like aza motema mabe. But in actual fact what he says that Ferre was a member of wenge but just not an established member in attack chant is true. Lol
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i think its more of a memory issue,like the caludji one but he did say or hint he was not yet a regular which was true,ahh clan wenge guys every thing can be turned into polemic,blaise even said today he is jesus de nuance which shows he's kept an attentive eye on him
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Yea I thought so too. I hope Ferre himself won't pick a grudge against his Vieux but knowing ki esprit wenge....Lol
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kie kie I am loving this guy reading the comments seems like Koffi, Fally and Werra's fans are like nursery kids Blaise Bula says about Ferre even with videos they have already made videos to mock Ferre kie kie oooh Ferre you are a liar kie kie but videos are there
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kie kie I am loving this guy reading the comments seems like Koffi, Fally and Werra's fans are like nursery kids Blaise Bula says about Ferre even with videos they have already made videos to mock Ferre kie kie oooh Ferre you are a liar kie kie but videos are there
Yeah i have seen that for example alex ntima if its spelled like that did a whole video just on that section ,i really dont understand what special pride people can get for ferre "not having been in 4X4 for real",most of the wenge 4X4 musicians had an upgrade through the split so what more natural than those who arrived in the wrong moment to have a bigger upgrade than others
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Disappointing interview.
I did not learn much, outside of the details on how he got beat up by that Colonel. He did want to say much and Ado looked scared. Ado is not built for "BIG" interviews. You need someone like Popol Mukelenge, Paulin Mukendi, or even Adi Londole. Ado is still scared of these big musicians.
Also, the way Blaise handled the Ferre question was useless and tasteless. Not a good look for him.
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i really think blaise expected nothing like what is starting to happen even if its not and hopefully will not grow into a storm,he spent the whole interview talking like that based on memory and surely at that particular second he was not having images back to his mind,
pro ferre and pro werra are having a field day,while in reality its a waste of time argueing over that,in current world one image can kill years of debate,people can see ferre at feux de l'amour concerts, in ivory coast in the role of jb,they know he went to chad and kenya and was at airport when they were gone to do feux de l'amour,what else do people need?why some people 25 almost years ago still feel like acknowledgeing ferre's presence in 4X4 is belittling the impact of maison mere in his career(and vice versa),or that a little mistake like blaise did deserve damning titles on youtube that blaise has 2 days to apologize or whatever
come on man
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I don't understand why Ferre fans are getting upset with Blaise, it's really not that serious. I don't see anything wrong with what Blaise said.
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I don't understand why Ferre fans are getting upset with Blaise, it's really not that serious. I don't see anything wrong with what Blaise said.
It's not that serious, you're right on that aspect. But he was in the wrong. There was no reason to play semantics just to downplay Ferre. He could've just said that Ferre was the last singer they recruited and keep it moving.
These guys are getting too old for their 'Esprit Wenge' stuff.
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I don't understand why Ferre fans are getting upset with Blaise, it's really not that serious. I don't see anything wrong with what Blaise said.
It's not that serious, you're right on that aspect. But he was in the wrong. There was no reason to play semantics just to downplay Ferre. He could've just said that Ferre was the last singer they recruited and keep it moving.
These guys are getting too old for their 'Esprit Wenge' stuff.
I don’t see how he was in the wrong, it’s a fact that Ferre joined when tensions were getting high, and Ferre wasn’t singing with them a lot on stage compared to Afande and Aimelia.
Also Blaise rightfully said he wasn’t recruited to replace anybody and he even gave credit to Ferre by saying that Ferre blossomed after the split by going to Maison Mere which is again nothing but facts. The Pentagone clips you don’t see Ferre there but you see Seguin especially in the Generique or Dizoizo clip, but then again you don’t see Masela, Titina, & Tutu in the clips (except for Tutu you see him for like 5 secs in Dizoizo.
Ferre started somewhat getting attention when the nail was in the coffin and the group was literally splitting.
People just get offended so easily nowadays, it’s not like he said he wasn’t a real 4x4 member like Werra and his entourage used to say. I’d have been disappointed with Blaise if he said Ferre wasn’t in the group or he wasn’t a good enough singer which he never said.
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I don't understand why Ferre fans are getting upset with Blaise, it's really not that serious. I don't see anything wrong with what Blaise said.
It's not that serious, you're right on that aspect. But he was in the wrong. There was no reason to play semantics just to downplay Ferre. He could've just said that Ferre was the last singer they recruited and keep it moving.
These guys are getting too old for their 'Esprit Wenge' stuff.
I don’t see how he was in the wrong, it’s a fact that Ferre joined when tensions were getting high, and Ferre wasn’t singing with them a lot on stage compared to Afande and Aimelia.
Also Blaise rightfully said he wasn’t recruited to replace anybody and he even gave credit to Ferre by saying that Ferre blossomed after the split by going to Maison Mere which is again nothing but facts. The Pentagone clips you don’t see Ferre there but you see Seguin especially in the Generique or Dizoizo clip, but then again you don’t see Masela, Titina, & Tutu in the clips (except for Tutu you see him for like 5 secs in Dizoizo.
Ferre started somewhat getting attention when the nail was in the coffin and the group was literally splitting.
People just get offended so easily nowadays, it’s not like he said he wasn’t a real 4x4 member like Werra and his entourage used to say. I’d have been disappointed with Blaise if he said Ferre wasn’t in the group or he wasn’t a good enough singer which he never said.
They asked him about Ferre joining the group. The answer was simple: yes, Ferre joined us but just before the split.That's it. Keep it short and simple. What's the point ot trying to distort history when everybody know that ferre was the last singer to ever join that group. "FERRE azalaki na pépinière". What is it supposed to mean? Ferre was an effective member of the group. He's trying to act like the only thing Ferre did was acting as an atalaku. Really?
Blaise is an intelligent dude. He should avoid petty stuff like that. It's useless.
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yes i agree that he did not turn it the good way like adolphe or masela or jb or even werra himself recently have been doing,which himself actually did in the past even saying once that ferre was junior's favorite singer ,his mistake however is not as stupid as the big shock it created honestly even if blaise deeply believed it which is not the case it would not take out the steps ferre made on various stages of wenge concerts so i really dont get how people are making a big drama of it,sometimes people have to big mentally strong FOR REAL not just pretend to be yankees then cry about every little thing,and this applies to fans of almost all musicians,the amount of things people could have just let go is uneal
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in short he is saying that he started developping taste for music at home with his mother singing in groups of praise for mobutu and when going to buy stuff he was hearing music of viva la musica and co then he made one step further in school groups until he came in wenge via jb and makaba and he was tested on a song of his own and they iiked it a lot so he joined them and ado asked whether it was not too hard for parents to accept and he said on his case what happened is that his parents were reassured knowing that jb werra and co's parents had a job of high responsability so they would not let their children become thugs like the reputation of musicians suggested
he threatened not to sing in mulolo because of a disagreement with the guys so they put young alain mpela then 17 to sing but his voice was not mature enough yet so he could not fill that role so they had to beg him to come and sing which he did
he said he has never been an official admin but he was just behind the 4 admins as chef of discipline and was asked about tutu caludji's suspension and admitted he did not remember well but for sure it was something wrong so he had to be punished
about salaries he said each of them 6 big names had their salaries depending on their status,then simple members also had a certain hierarchy in their salaries
he talked about how saddam was liking them a lot and giving them money and then also talked about his sad incident we mentioned above
he also explains whats according to him esprit wenge,respecting everybody but not fearing them,and certainly not letting them bully you and he says he misses those days of wenge 4X4 because there was true love even if today he has doubt whether it was comedy or genuine love given how hard it is for them to be anywhere near as close as in the past
He said that each of them wenge singers had his particularity and its that diversity of skills which created a big force,and his voice was very present in wenge's music because he was the first singer to sing in studio he was giving the direction of chorus under coordination of alain makaba then jb werra adolphe would sing next,then in the long run he started doing that "backbone of the chorus" role with alain mpela and aimelia before jb werra and adolphe stepped in,which is why until today its easy for him to reproduce wenge4X4 style of songs since he was the central voice in shaping the chorus,so it would be easier for him to find people to do kinda like jb,kinda like werra and so on
and he said alain makaba is an absolute genius of music could play every of the instruments sing tenor 1eme and 2eme voix but joked that his only artistic flaw was that he could not dance in sync with the music
Could you expand on that fara fara they had against Zaiko? Where he mentioned that Zaiko a gagna bango.
What was it about?
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they had to perform facing zaiko and they perform well very well but did not expect zaiko to have prepared it this well,like werra said in a recent interview they took it like an honor to perform with elders while zaiko took it as competition at all levels,and nioka longo stepped on stage bare feet(which has some symbolism in those spirituality musicians believe in) and they put on a great show
they had to have a revenge and in order to make a great impression werra and jb went to go and see saddam mobutu to get a tank from army and they got it but then an heavy rain started which made it impossible for concert to happen
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they had to perform facing zaiko and they perform well very well but did not expect zaiko to have prepared it this well,like werra said in a recent interview they took it like an honor to perform with elders while zaiko took it as competition at all levels,and nioka longo stepped on stage bare feet(which has some symbolism in those spirituality musicians believe in) and they put on a great show
they had to have a revenge and in order to make a great impression werra and jb went to go and see saddam mobutu to get a tank from army and they got it but then an heavy rain started which made it impossible for concert to happen
Surely that would have been legendary haha.
Thanks for the background info.
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Werra with the lame excuse. Zaiko was just too hot for them to handle in those days.
Eyi Nkisi, Eyi Magie. LOL.