Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: CM PRINCE on January 16, 2023, 18:00
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We know Les Marquis was formed in 2004 and planned since 2000 but this list of musicians that were approached is actually quite insane, I’m sure there’s more musicians from other groups that were contacted to join
Singers
Ferre Gola
JDT Mulopwe
Serge Mabiala
Baby Ndombe
Fally Ipupa
Shella Mputu
Jordan Kusa
Joss Diena
Heritier Wata
Teka
Atalakus
Bill Clinton
Celeo Scram
Bebe Kerozene
Genta
Guitarists
Japonais
Mimiche Bass
Flamme Kapaya
There is no way they would’ve all co existed absolutely no way. They would’ve split after a few months especially with all the ego with each guys coming from their respective groups as chiefs they wouldn’t accept XYZ being their leader.
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lol - fantasy roster list, but looking at those egos, a fist fight would've broken out at the first rehearsal with the band falling apart the same day if all they all were together ;D
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hahaha when you know that "just "with bill ferre jdt japonais there was fight and literally blood imagine those guys together it would be wrestlemania :D :D :D
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lol - fantasy roster list, but looking at those egos, a fist fight would've broken out at the first rehearsal with the band falling apart the same day if all they all were together ;D
Would’ve fell apart and they would’ve gone back to their groups like nothing happened ;D
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hahaha when you know that "just "with bill ferre jdt japonais there was fight and literally blood imagine those guys together it would be wrestlemania :D :D :D
Loool Les Marquis sounded toxic from the get go, was anyone else approached that I didn’t list?
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Guy Moller was also approached. He even went to make interviews for them in Kinshasa and represented them at Maïsha Parc, talking in the name of Les Marquis
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Guy Moller was also approached. He even went to make interviews for them in Kinshasa and represented them at Maïsha Parc, talking in the name of Les Marquis
Did he join as a singer or as a atalaku?
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I don’t know, because he was like spokesmen Zobozi promoting them in Kinshasa on the television. I guess that he saw that they weren’t serious when both Ferre Gola and Bill Clinton sendedtheir guys to recruit musicians in Kinshasa a few days before their arrival and then rehearsing separately
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looking like a fantasy line up
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lol when you know that only with bill jdt ferre japonais they ve had bill punching japonais and breaking his nose over a woman issue and japonais countering with trying to break him a leg with a baseball bat imagine if for example jordan alone was added to them,they'd be at police every week with jordan's quick manhandling reflex instead of argueing for too long :D :D :D :D
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lol when you know that only with bill jdt ferre japonais they ve had bill punching japonais and breaking his nose over a woman issue and japonais countering with trying to break him a leg with a baseball bat imagine if for example jordan alone was added to them,they'd be at police every week with jordan's quick manhandling reflex instead of argueing for too long :D :D :D :D
How come Ferre's solo career didn't succeed after Marquis, but Bill Clinton did with his band? You would think Ferre would have no problem finding a producer and sponsors being one of the most popular members of Masion Mere.
I remembered being surprised seeing him join QL while JDT and Bill continued on as solo artist. However, JDT killed his career by staying in Europe too long. He needed to return to Kinshasa to confirm his success
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Jus d'Ete Mulopwe just took he time to get papers, after his bad experience with Wenge El Paris (him getting stuck in Kinshasa for years until joining Wenge Maison Mere) and prepared his return to Kinshasa very well and slowly. While Bill and Ferre wanted to rush back to Kinshasa as quick as possible after releasing Miracles, to prove everybody a point. Bill just being lucky that it went well with him and Ferre not.
Bill was very popular at that time. Ferre also, but the popularity of Bill Clinton was on another dimension. Because of coming from diamond-region Kasai, he got easily support from diamonddealers who had their roots there. Another thing was that he signed a personal contract with Bracongo/Skol with Zacharie Bababaswe as his manager when being in Les Marquis (it created for some problems in the band, JDT and Ferre not being happy with it, knowing that it would lead to a split in the future). Because of his deal with Bracongo/Skol it was easy for Bill to survive in Kinshasa, because they would pay him every month a certain amount, give him a set of instruments and a villa as reward. Plus he knew the secret of pulling huge crowds like his former boss, altough not being on the same level.
From 2001, breweries Bralima/Primus and Bracongo/Skol started to sign bandleaders to promote their companies in return of financial support, knowing that it was almost impossible for Congolese artists to survive by only performing in Kinshasa (Europe-tours were saving them). Many upcoming artists and big names saw their careers being killed because of not having a contract with those breweries.
Ferre Gola he didn't succeed because he didn't had enough support from donors. Many weren't believing in him anymore, because of the way Bill Clinton abandoned him while they the original plan was to restart Les Marquis together in Kinshasa (both had a hidden agenda preparing 12 against each other from Paris) after leaving Jus d'Ete Mulopwe behind in Paris. Ferre already sold his house in order to finance the clips of Miracles they made in Europe. He tried to sign with Bralima/Primus, but they refused to accept him. Ferre started at a point to get money problems. He tried to team up with Baby Ndombe in Kinshasa, but Baby Ndombe refused to join him. Ferre didn't knew what to do. After that he decided to come back quickly to Europe to sell images of his first show ith his band and look for more support. At that same time he was thinking about returning back to Maison Mere, seeing how difficult it was to establish a solo-career in Kinshasa without support and then suddenly he got once again approached by Koffi who offered him $15.000 dollars to join Quartier Latin, which he accepted. In the song Qui Vivra Verra, he song a small part about it the way they manipulated Bill Clinton and how they got insulted by WMM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KqKnV9xRzw&t=3468s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99zWjYdFr9Y
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the thing also which made ferre change his mind on the maison mere return is that he was informed by one of the manzaka ma nkoy guys then one of the donors that they were planning to humiliate him when he returns making him to kneel then having him to reclaim his spot from the bottom as if he arrived along with taddet and co but from mampata he was hearing that he'd return and reclaim chef d'orchestre role
mampata not directly being involved with la zamba life he thought like the rumours he heard were more likely since the same mampata could not solve the baby ndombe issue while baby was even more of his protege than ferre
i think if he was good with jb like wazekwa at that moment he'd get the primus deal since both primus and skol were always seeking the opinion of their main artist before signing somebody
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Ferre did well to decline to return to maison mère, it could’ve killed his career. Clan Wenge love to humiliate important ex members by making them kneel in front of the boss, Alain Mpela didn’t return to bcbg for the same reasons he was alerted that they would’ve forced him to kneel in front of Jb.
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Vasco Mabiala always tells the story Ferre was about to sign with Bralima/Primus, but when they came to negiotate they found Sylvie Mampata and late Monib Production on their way to negotiate with Bralima.The boss of Bralima then chasing away and Ferre really being dissapointed. Werrason who was in Europe touring, ending up by signing a 4 years contract with them in Europe.
I dont know if you remember that period of Bracongo accusing Werrason to have signed with Bralima in Europe, Werrason then refusing to return back to Kinshasa while the alerte generale-tour already being finished until summer knowing that his contract with Bracongo would be over. Bracongo being furious about that and suing both Werrason and Bralima but the case going nowhere.
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If Ferre rejoined Maison Mere I dont think that he would succeed in his solo-career. Bonbon Kojack's place in WMM would have been useless.
Mimiche Bass returned in the same period but they didn't humilate him. Was it because of rejoining WMM in Europe ? Because Aimelia joined WMM in Europe but he wasn't humilated at Bercy nor when they returned in Kinshasa. The only being Patient Kusangila but that was more of a comedy-show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgB241d_U0
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Bonbon already became irrelevant after témoignage, he was only used for dancing and started getting humiliated in La zamba.
It could’ve been because of Europe, but they didn’t humiliate Aimelia because he already threatened to rejoin bcbg if they tried to do to him what they did to Patient Kusangila and they agreed because they didn’t want bcbg to gain the upper hand by getting Aimelia again. At the same time though Werra publicly humiliated Lacoste in Europe during their concert at Élysée Montmartre when he asked him if he was planning to record an album
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I thought JB did not want Aimelia.
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I’m thinking about the way Lacoste was on his knee to ask forgive during SDM or when they asked him if he was gonna record an album krkrkrkr
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I thought JB did not want Aimelia.
When they heard through Zacharie Bababaswe show Feu Vert that Aimelia was about to join Wenge Maison Mere they did everything to convince to rejoin Wenge BCBG, because it would be like a humilation for them since that Aimelia was the 3th musician after Patient Kusangila and Burkina Faso Mbokaliya to join Wenge Maison Mere. Mosaka and Roger Ngandu went to calm their fans down on tv by saying that Aimelia wouldn't join Maison Mere but rejoin Wenge BCBG. Aimelia was ready to talk with JB Mpiana when they arrived for LSC which took place on the like Bercy, because in reality he didn't want to join Maison Mere but was pushed by donor Didi Kinuani after releasing his solo album Constat. However, when arriving at the hotel JB's staff said that he had to talk with Titina and Alain Mpela first because JB being "souverain 1er". Aimelia wasn't happy with that, decided to back home and ended up by getting presented at Bercy, where he did that famous 1 minute "JCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC" hahaha
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I thought JB did not want Aimelia.
When they heard through Zacharie Bababaswe show Feu Vert that Aimelia was about to join Wenge Maison Mere they did everything to convince to rejoin Wenge BCBG, because it would be like a humilation for them since that Aimelia was the 3th musician after Patient Kusangila and Burkina Faso Mbokaliya to join Wenge Maison Mere. Mosaka and Roger Ngandu went to calm their fans down on tv by saying that Aimelia wouldn't join Maison Mere but rejoin Wenge BCBG. Aimelia was ready to talk with JB Mpiana when they arrived for LSC which took place on the like Bercy, because in reality he didn't want to join Maison Mere but was pushed by donor Didi Kinuani after releasing his solo album Constat. However, when arriving at the hotel JB's staff said that he had to talk with Titina and Alain Mpela first because JB being "souverain 1er". Aimelia wasn't happy with that, decided to back home and ended up by getting presented at Bercy, where he did that famous 1 minute "JCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC" hahaha
Would he have benefited better returning to BCBG or was Masion Mere a better choice? If he returned, he wouldn't of got a song on Internet and he would be stuck in Kinshasa with the 5-year ban on JB because of the ngulu affaire.
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you already gave the answer. Altough I prefer him in wenge bcbg. Many dont give enough credit for the way he was important to cover Lacoste's departure and fill Adjani's void at the same time, who was often absent
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you already gave the answer. Altough I prefer him in wenge bcbg. Many dont give enough credit for the way he was important to cover Lacoste's departure and fill Adjani's void at the same time, who was often absent
Also people forget to mention when he joined he along with Ferre at concerts were very rarely leaving the stage compared to the others, it was always Jdt, Mabiala, Heritier, Baby, Kabose, Adjani and Lacoste (when he returned) rotating. He did well to join Maison Mere rather than always performing at GHK with Kibens, Jdl, Rio, tutu, Richard Mukena and co
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Bonbon already became irrelevant after témoignage, he was only used for dancing and started getting humiliated in La zamba.
It could’ve been because of Europe, but they didn’t humiliate Aimelia because he already threatened to rejoin bcbg if they tried to do to him what they did to Patient Kusangila and they agreed because they didn’t want bcbg to gain the upper hand by getting Aimelia again. At the same time though Werra publicly humiliated Lacoste in Europe during their concert at Élysée Montmartre when he asked him if he was planning to record an album
Tbh I would have loved more to see Caludji over Aimelia, Ainelia good singer but Caludji voice il on another level
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Bonbon already became irrelevant after témoignage, he was only used for dancing and started getting humiliated in La zamba.
It could’ve been because of Europe, but they didn’t humiliate Aimelia because he already threatened to rejoin bcbg if they tried to do to him what they did to Patient Kusangila and they agreed because they didn’t want bcbg to gain the upper hand by getting Aimelia again. At the same time though Werra publicly humiliated Lacoste in Europe during their concert at Élysée Montmartre when he asked him if he was planning to record an album
Tbh I would have loved more to see Caludji over Aimelia, Ainelia good singer but Caludji voice il on another level
Loool Caludji is not better than Aimelia, put some respeck on Aimelia’s name. There’s a reason why Aimelia was picked over Caludji in 4x4, Caludji even started losing his voice in later years whilst Aimelia still sounds the same after 30 years.