Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: archos on October 15, 2013, 15:46
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0e9QkljJ_To
He says he appreciates fally a lot and likes his music but they are not best friends since they have not spent much time together in their life
and he adds that he is the true heir of tabuley rochereau
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In life, do not praise your self but the poeple. Ferre Gola is good but this thing of him taking up a self made-up promotion that he is the heir of Old Rhumba giants, is wrong. He does not understand his music so well. I do not hear any song in the likes of Adeito that he has coined so he is not the heir of Master Rochereau. Ferre has annoyed me for one thing, lack of instruments in his music which makes his voice go like a blank bullet and leave only fans like we, confused with why he is wasting all his nice voice!!
Let him go and listen to Muzhina, play a similar song and we will agree with him....
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@EMOBCBG said:
In life, do not praise your self but the poeple. Ferre Gola is good but this thing of him taking up a self made-up promotion that he is the heir of Old Rhumba giants, is wrong.
Ferre has annoyed me for one thing, lack of instruments in his music which makes his voice go like a blank bullet....
Well, for a singer like him he should be confident to praise himself that he's an excellent singer and true heir to Tabu Ley who too was known for his excellent vocals which were hair raising just like Ferre's. Yes Tabu Ley did a bit more of sebenes during his time but who else is doing more sebenes than Ferre today amongst his generation? Fally?
What do you mean lack of instruments in Ferre's music? Is it because he prefers acoustic arrangement that you feel he's not using many intruments?
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Yes acoustic is not really good if all songs are full of it.....it makes all songs sound the same. The day people like makaba will arrange ferre's music, Sly, you will pick up a phone to have a chat with me...
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emobcbg i totally concur with you
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<cite>@EMOBCBG said:</cite>
In life, do not praise your self but the poeple. Ferre Gola is good but this thing of him taking up a self made-up promotion that he is the heir of Old Rhumba giants, is wrong. He does not understand his music so well. I do not hear any song in the likes of Adeito that he has coined so he is not the heir of Master Rochereau. Ferre has annoyed me for one thing, lack of instruments in his music which makes his voice go like a blank bullet and leave only fans like we, confused with why he is wasting all his nice voice!!
Let him go and listen to Muzhina, play a similar song and we will agree with him....
Totally agree with you!! The song arrangements are monotonous.
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I am not into Ferre or Fally that much as I am with Koffi, Werra and JB. The later knows how to use musicians in blending songs.
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Deanglo, JB, yes you are correct but his weakness, he has no ear for good studio sound. Werrason, mopao know that trade better....
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EMO I think you just dont find the acoustic style interesting compared to your type of Rhumba nut yet Ferre remains one of the Greatest and Monumental musicians in Congo and African Music as a whole. I would also want to point out my appreciation for the comments he had for Fally because it only takes a professional and a man with talent to praise and exalt another, knowing that stupid koffi started the rivalry btwn the two stars, still Ferre consider Fally as a Talented musician.
I think in music we also have to look at the character of a person naturally without the attachment of his talent.
I found Ferre, based on the above statement, very noble.
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Fally and Ferre have similar music arrangements ie acoustic but guess what,they are the top musicians amongst of this generation 5th generation so it means there are people who really appreciate their styles,what is monotonous to you is not monotonous to the other.
Personally, I know the weaknesses of most of the top musicians we know, I have given examples of the kind of songs they are failing to add to their albums and also their generiques/sebenes are not properly arranged,if they can work on that their music should be perfect but so far they are doing well.
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on a funny note hervé still has not improved french any bit despite actually leaving in france now and going to kinshasa for concerts :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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did someone say 'stupid koffi? thats wrong! because that stupid koffi played a bigger role in shaping Fally and Ferre carriers.
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<cite>@ken nyakone said:</cite>
did someone say 'stupid koffi? thats wrong! because that stupid koffi played a bigger role in shaping Fally and Ferre carriers.
Correction, shaping Fally's career not Ferre's....Ferre's career was shaped way before he joined Koffi's band
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@ken nyakone said:
did someone say 'stupid koffi? thats wrong! because that stupid koffi played a bigger role in shaping Fally and Ferre carriers.
The only way he helped Ferre and Fally is by making them enemies of each other and dividing fans and also he paid them a lot of money but artistically Ferre was already complete when he joined Koffi's band infact he was disrupted from starting his band earlier,he had already started recruiting musicians prior to joining Quartier Latin.
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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0e9QkljJ_To
He says he appreciates fally a lot and likes his music but they are not best friends since they have not spent much time together in their life
and he adds that he is the true heir of tabuley rochereau
What I have said and will say it again is that Ferre Gola appeals to those who understand Lingala mostly and that is why he has a share of fans. If you do not understand what Ferre Gola is singing about, you will pull out the CD. I do understand a few of what these guys sing about but come on guys, this music should be for everyone and that is why JB, Koffi, Werrason, Zaiko are loved by all people not just one group. I have gone to rhumba die hard clubs in Lusaka, a few Congolese will stand for a dance when Ferre's song is on but after one or two songs, you hear people cry for a Fally song, why? Fally Ipupa is not monotonous like Ferre Gola. Fally's songs have curves here and there and he sometimes adds a soloist to the song therefore, adding a sebene.
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Thank you, thank you thank you..koffi did jack for ferre. Ferre was not properly paid when he was in QL which led to not pitching up in concerts And rehesals , then koffi suspended him, after he had gained more popularity in housing both ferre and fally..He used ferre not didn't honor his prior contract.
The stupid part comes from the issue was of his "koffi" insidious and malicious tendency in trying to subbotage wazekwa not other musicians plus destroying the rhythm I of the QL we always knew..now its Cindy in each and every corner of the song, mewing like a deserted cat.
Forgive me guys, but I gotta vent out.
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<cite>@EMOBCBG said:</cite>
What I have said and will say it again is that Ferre Gola appeals to those who understand Lingala mostly and that is why he has a share of fans. If you do not understand what Ferre Gola is singing about, you will pull out the CD. I do understand a few of what these guys sing about but come on guys, this music should be for everyone and that is why JB, Koffi, Werrason, Zaiko are loved by all people not just one group. I have gone to rhumba die hard clubs in Lusaka, a few Congolese will stand for a dance when Ferre's song is on but after one or two songs, you hear people cry for a Fally song, why? Fally Ipupa is not monotonous like Ferre Gola. Fally's songs have curves here and there and he sometimes adds a soloist to the song therefore, adding a sebene.
EMOBCBG, I couldn't have said it any better. It takes another descerning ear to understand. Until these younger artists stops trying to be at the top alone and start receuiting other talented voices to argument, they will not surpass the top tier. For example, Koffi Olomide was not afraid to recruit Jordan Kusa, Deo Brando and other that sound similar to him before that. It made his albums unforgiveably fantastic.
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<cite>@deanglo said:</cite>
EMOBCBG, I couldn't have said it any better. It takes another descerning ear to understand. Until these younger artists stops trying to be at the top alone and start receuiting other talented voices to argument, they will not surpass the top tier. For example, Koffi Olomide was not afraid to recruit Jordan Kusa, Deo Brando and other that sound similar to him before that. It made his albums unforgiveably fantastic.
<cite>@johnbas said:</cite>
Thank you, thank you thank you..koffi did jack for ferre. Ferre was not properly paid when he was in QL which led to not pitching up in concerts And rehesals , then koffi suspended him, after he had gained more popularity in housing both ferre and fally..He used ferre not didn't honor his prior contract.
The stupid part comes from the issue was of his "koffi" insidious and malicious tendency in trying to subbotage wazekwa not other musicians plus destroying the rhythm I of the QL we always knew..now its Cindy in each and every
corner of the song, mewing like a deserted cat.
Forgive me guys, but I gotta vent out.
Yeah Koffi is a malicious person. LOL @ now its Cindy in each and every
corner of the song, mewing like a deserted cat. That is a funny analogy, why can't someone let him know that Cindy is overused? I guess it's the power she has over him.