Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: jordanlumbala101 on February 13, 2023, 23:00
-
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhkDSJ9w/Screenshot-2023-02-13-164804.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
-
Not in the US
-
the fans of old school sebene song will surely like genta's song
-
the fans of old school sebene song will surely like genta's song
Which song is genta? I have to wait to hear the album. Any generique? How are you liking it so far.
-
the fans of old school sebene song will surely like genta's song
The Sebene part was just a shortened version of Zebuka
-
the title is je connais fina, there is two generiques one with parts of muted solo then rock guitar and another one sebene from the start
solid album,just they have reused some animation of the vol 1 like it used to be in the old days a lot of repeating same animation
they've done around 8 9 generiques in total so there is still some to come in april
yeah prince,i was talking more about the arrangement from the start,i believe they modified the sebene after doing zebuka and its good like that,at least better than the original one that i knew which had very very low guitar sound like in soyons serieux,good thing that they corrected it only thing is that they just redid a version of zebuka instead
lol seguin's 1.2 to announce start of the song was audible,they must have just done it full live
-
the title is je connais fina, there is two generiques one with parts of muted solo then rock guitar and another one sebene from the start
solid album,just they have reused some animation of the vol 1 like it used to be in the old days a lot of repeating same animation
they've done around 8 9 generiques in total so there is still some to come in april
yeah prince,i was talking more about the arrangement from the start,i believe they modified the sebene after doing zebuka and its good like that,at least better than the original one that i knew which had very very low guitar sound like in soyons serieux,good thing that they corrected it only thing is that they just redid a version of zebuka instead
lol seguin's 1.2 to announce start of the song was audible,they must have just done it full live
I’m so excited! I wanted to wait till I got home to listen. But may have to at work
-
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhkDSJ9w/Screenshot-2023-02-13-164804.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Still not available.in Italy
-
Try Youtube Music. That's how I'm listening to it.
-
Try Youtube Music. That's how I'm listening to it.
Yeah not here yet
-
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhkDSJ9w/Screenshot-2023-02-13-164804.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Still not available.in Italy
Same thing in the US. I guess I gotta wait until 12 a.m to hear the album
-
TOO MUCH Rhumbas man come on. Does anyone remember when BCBG used to be a group that released a lot of Sebene songs or at least 70/30 kmt.
-
TOO MUCH Rhumbas man come on. Does anyone remember when BCBG used to be a group that released a lot of Sebene songs or at least 70/30 kmt.
My only problem with the album
-
Literally gonna say the same thing!! Two many rumba!! I was at least expecting two or three sebenes on there
-
yeah i am with you guys,donors really need to stop that rumba obsession,especially as it becomes impossible that all the 20+ rumbas of various albums succeed,whereas with sebene songs here and there,the nostalgic and fans of it like us can make it become hits
-
yeah i am with you guys,donors really need to stop that rumba obsession,especially as it becomes impossible that all the 20+ rumbas of various albums succeed,whereas with sebene songs here and there,the nostalgic and fans of it like us can make it become hits
It’s the donors killing Congolese music then?
-
Haut les mains is fireeeeeeee!!!
Metrau and Sakoko , good thing they didnt include Kibens and Company
-
seems like the little throat surgery at the indian hospital did genta good,a part from some funny breathing sounds he copied from his pire vieux chai ngenge, he sounded way less noisy that in recent months
-
These rumbas are good. Also like the generiques and genta song so far.
-
Is there another volume on the way?
-
On 7 of 16 so far no skips.
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
-
yeah i am with you guys,donors really need to stop that rumba obsession,especially as it becomes impossible that all the 20+ rumbas of various albums succeed,whereas with sebene songs here and there,the nostalgic and fans of it like us can make it become hits
Yeah but come on, 10+ years of no albums and all those cries that were created during that time they didn’t couldn’t be bothered to put all of it in the album?
With Fally Ferre and Koffi I already prepare myself to know they most likely won’t have Sebene songs in their albums because that’s their formula even though Fally surprised everyone with Zany, but with Jb like he comes from Wenge who were the masters of sebene. It’s okay to say no to donors sometimes
-
yeah i am with you guys,donors really need to stop that rumba obsession,especially as it becomes impossible that all the 20+ rumbas of various albums succeed,whereas with sebene songs here and there,the nostalgic and fans of it like us can make it become hits
Yeah but come on, 10+ years of no albums and all those cries that were created during that time they didn’t couldn’t be bothered to put all of it in the album?
With Fally Ferre and Koffi I already prepare myself to know they most likely won’t have Sebene songs in their albums because that’s their formula even though Fally surprised everyone with Zany, but with Jb like he comes from Wenge who were the masters of sebene. It’s okay to say no to donors sometimes
Or tell the donors it will be a sebene song.
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
-
As usual I will just comment generiques bdcause I don't like listening to any rhumbas of whatever artists with that said it was nice to Genta to let Fusee animate the last part of his song it reminds me of how Caludji used to do with the same Genta at the beginning isnthat at 09:09 Genta? Cause he sounds like a different person.
La Puissance
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah SUVeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Binadamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
De La Patriaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Salvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasaaaaaaa
Mama e, man I have missed this type of guitar of generiques, that's why you need heirs who thought Tolbert Solo? All my greetings.
Mmmmmmmm Ya Pajoooooo
Charisme, Nzambe Na Ngai Charisme ngl Pajo really.woke up and came up with wonderful cries, whoever coaches him coached well,
Par Respect
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Ya Gentaaaa, man if he only kept his natural voice, the one in Pelisa Ngwasuma this crie Par Respect would have been crazy
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah who made the effect at 1:54???????? No Manzambi94 aleli, broooooo the guitarist who played the generique deserve some sort of prize
I was expecting another crie of Pajo the one who Jeffrey showed me when Balle De Match came out
But anyway yes too much Rhumbas, plus except.for Fally and Ferre is not like any Congolese artist get views or notorietà through rhumbas. Nigerian music has not became worldwide cause of boring love songs, it is always songs you dance on the Dancefloor while in Congo we still stuck with that Rhumba Formula gooood
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
The fact that Joao Ndombele complained about Ferre making a sebene song in his name instead of a rumba, combined with the above story, says a lot about the donors' opinions on sebene. Makes you wonder how many songs from the past 20 years, not just by JB and BCBG, were initially supposed to finish with sebene, only to be retooled into a rumba just to satisfy next man's fickle desires and keep the money rolling. I agree with Longbluesquid when he says that they're killing our music and restricting the bands' creativity.
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
The fact that Joao Ndombele complained about Ferre making a sebene song in his name instead of a rumba, combined with the above story, says a lot about the donors' opinions on sebene. Makes you wonder how many songs from the past 20 years, not just by JB and BCBG, were initially supposed to finish with sebene, only to be retooled into a rumba just to satisfy next man's fickle desires and keep the money rolling. I agree with Longbluesquid when he says that they're killing our music and restricting the bands' creativity.
So my question here. Who provides more salary to these artists. Is it the donors or actual fans? By attending concerts and such. Cause if donors are against sebenes and us fans are complaining the genre could be destroyed just from someone’s requests.
I don’t understand Congolese economy, in regards to music.
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
The fact that Joao Ndombele complained about Ferre making a sebene song in his name instead of a rumba, combined with the above story, says a lot about the donors' opinions on sebene. Makes you wonder how many songs from the past 20 years, not just by JB and BCBG, were initially supposed to finish with sebene, only to be retooled into a rumba just to satisfy next man's fickle desires and keep the money rolling. I agree with Longbluesquid when he says that they're killing our music and restricting the bands' creativity.
So my question here. Who provides more salary to these artists. Is it the donors or actual fans? By attending concerts and such. Cause if donors are against sebenes and us fans are complaining the genre could be destroyed just from someone’s requests.
I don’t understand Congolese economy, in regards to music.
Tbh there is no way any regular fan can give more money then a donor let's say medium size artist have an album of 20 songs. A donor will give the artist 20k dollars per song (and this is a medium artist, imagine big artist like Fally, Ferre etc) and the donor has complete control over the genre of the song and sometimes the topic but not on the type of instruments and vocals being played plus this is just songs but sometimes a donor can give you Mabanga money and also buy you instruments for rehearsals make your artists use their own homes, give you free bottles at the club, etc. Etc. And how will the average diaspora Congolese fan could compete with that? And I saying Diaspor because only.Lord knows how much harsh is to get by in Congo and let alone in a very big city like.Kinshasa, people.dont have even have the koney for.food let alone.music, cos are usually sold.by one person buying a copy and then making the copy.for.many people.or street sellers buying the copy.and reselling it, so yes unless something change, Rhumba will be the trend
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
The fact that Joao Ndombele complained about Ferre making a sebene song in his name instead of a rumba, combined with the above story, says a lot about the donors' opinions on sebene. Makes you wonder how many songs from the past 20 years, not just by JB and BCBG, were initially supposed to finish with sebene, only to be retooled into a rumba just to satisfy next man's fickle desires and keep the money rolling. I agree with Longbluesquid when he says that they're killing our music and restricting the bands' creativity.
So my question here. Who provides more salary to these artists. Is it the donors or actual fans? By attending concerts and such. Cause if donors are against sebenes and us fans are complaining the genre could be destroyed just from someone’s requests.
I don’t understand Congolese economy, in regards to music.
Tbh there is no way any regular fan can give more money then a donor let's say medium size artist have an album of 20 songs. A donor will give the artist 20k dollars per song (and this is a medium artist, imagine big artist like Fally, Ferre etc) and the donor has complete control over the genre of the song and sometimes the topic but not on the type of instruments and vocals being played plus this is just songs but sometimes a donor can give you Mabanga money and also buy you instruments for rehearsals make your artists use their own homes, give you free bottles at the club, etc. Etc. And how will the average diaspora Congolese fan could compete with that? And I saying Diaspor because only.Lord knows how much harsh is to get by in Congo and let alone in a very big city like.Kinshasa, people.dont have even have the koney for.food let alone.music, cos are usually sold.by one person buying a copy and then making the copy.for.many people.or street sellers buying the copy.and reselling it, so yes unless something change, Rhumba will be the trend
Oh wow. That makes sense now. Cause a donor is footing upfront money. So really you are ahead with this model. Cause what I was thinking was more a risk. Like fans streaming or buying cds and concerts. Yeah now I see how donors are impacting music.
-
Was it always like this? Even in the 80s, 90s and 2000s? Like what made the donors prefer rhumbas over sebene songs, when that wasn’t the case in those decades. What was it that changed it all?
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
Wow! Thanks for the information. I can’t believe this is how it works. What does someone in a suspicious business want to be sung about?
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
Is Karmapa respected musician? I don't know much about him
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
Is Karmapa respected musician? I don't know much about him
I like Karmapa. He is very good at rumbas.
-
I wander if musicians can do versions of albums like “donor” and for fans. It would be more studio time but we will get more dancing.
Also for Karmapa listen to Je Appelle Toi it’s on streaming services. Then Riposte and Caligula.
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
wow thanks for the break down with that. I don't think this will change anytime soon. If only this system was in favor of seben songs instead of rhumba songs, I would have no complaints. But now that I know the truth I can give up expecting anything from these artists nowadays.
-
There's two génériques and they are La Puissance and Par Respect
-
Je connais fina......Genta
-
As usual I will just comment generiques bdcause I don't like listening to any rhumbas of whatever artists with that said it was nice to Genta to let Fusee animate the last part of his song it reminds me of how Caludji used to do with the same Genta at the beginning isnthat at 09:09 Genta? Cause he sounds like a different person.
La Puissance
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah SUVeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Binadamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
De La Patriaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Salvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasaaaaaaa
Mama e, man I have missed this type of guitar of generiques, that's why you need heirs who thought Tolbert Solo? All my greetings.
Mmmmmmmm Ya Pajoooooo
Charisme, Nzambe Na Ngai Charisme ngl Pajo really.woke up and came up with wonderful cries, whoever coaches him coached well,
Par Respect
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Ya Gentaaaa, man if he only kept his natural voice, the one in Pelisa Ngwasuma this crie Par Respect would have been crazy
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah who made the effect at 1:54???????? No Manzambi94 aleli, broooooo the guitarist who played the generique deserve some sort of prize
I was expecting another crie of Pajo the one who Jeffrey showed me when Balle De Match came out
But anyway yes too much Rhumbas, plus except.for Fally and Ferre is not like any Congolese artist get views or notorietà through rhumbas. Nigerian music has not became worldwide cause of boring love songs, it is always songs you dance on the Dancefloor while in Congo we still stuck with that Rhumba Formula gooood
I kind of feel some Zaiko thing in this song and some extended partitions from Academia (Otan)
-
i believe the change arrived around 2003 2004 2005 with the rise of karmapa with a first album full of rumbas,the criticism from older artists that the wenge's music is a lot of noise and that koffi is following them, so koffi came with monde arabe dominated by rumba,wenge starting to edge first towards a balance but then its from that moment that donors started to insist that they want rumbas and artists took advantage from that to ask a lot for songs from 2005 to now the price of some songs has multiplied by 3,if they were not self producing and funding a lot of sessions in kinshasa due to the energy issues,some artist could easily make a million per album if the studio lockouts and all that did not cost much and the fact is that when you come with sebene songs some donors want to pay the price of 10 20 years ago,10k while today some songs are around 30 35 40 for normal comfortable people(owner of companies and co) and 50 plus for the politicians and their families and obviously artists consider that 10k for their level of 20 30 40 years of professional career always in the mix among the best is insulting so they'd rather produce the most average rumba aswell and chew 30k than a sebene song which will be followed with a lot of arguments
my friend genta for example was not far to start releasing rumbas as he noticed that his customers were taking years at times to finish the money of a song while rumba guys some come with the cash(especially those in suspect business) its kibens who convinced him to stick to sebene songs because he was an atalaku and it made no sense for an atalaku to release a rumba unless he sings it which he was obviously not going to do
both the greed of musicians and the more difficult customers are responsible,there is a mentality that being given a sebene song does not give you the right prestige compared to even the most average rumba which is seen as a consecration for some to enter the world of song customers
in some groups donors even literally pick the song themselves and who will sing
wow thanks for the break down with that. I don't think this will change anytime soon. If only this system was in favor of seben songs instead of rhumba songs, I would have no complaints. But now that I know the truth I can give up expecting anything from these artists nowadays.
the world of donors and song customers has become almost as competitive as musicians themselves,to become an ultimate donor,the guys consider that you have to complete the "grand slam" have a song from koffi jb werra fally ferre heritier fabregas
wazekwa also sometimes but he is more demanding in terms of the origin of the money so some donors dont contact him anymore as he tries as much as possible not to sing from people involved in dodgy business to get all that money
so the competition is also about who will have one of the top 3 succesful rumba songs of the albums,which is why automatically the guys ask or are proposed a rumba
and since artists fear losing such a juicy money,all of them making wayyyyyyy more through that than they'd ever make in copyright under the conditions of the country in the past 20 years,they just obey instead of trying to say we are the artists let us give you the music we want
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
Well Congolese I think was known for sebene, I think that’s what gained popularity. Especially for people that don’t know the language.
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
Well Congolese I think was known for sebene, I think that’s what gained popularity. Especially for people that don’t know the language.
I am one of those who don't know the language but I just want to listen to rhumba. Sebene are all the same. I don't expect anything new. A sebene/generique will sound almost the same like all the others. So if I need it I can pick any from say 2000 and be good to go. No need for a new one. Maybe the cris but since i don't understand that doesn't figure in my equation.
-
There is a Michigan in Mon plaisir and Haute les mains. Is he the Werrason Michigan and if so someone kindly explain. Did he get vocals in Balle de Match then leave to join Werra but his vocals still made the album or did he leave Werrason just recently to join JB and was able to get vocals in BDM? Or is this a different Michigan?
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
Well Congolese I think was known for sebene, I think that’s what gained popularity. Especially for people that don’t know the language.
I am one of those who don't know the language but I just want to listen to rhumba. Sebene are all the same. I don't expect anything new. A sebene/generique will sound almost the same like all the others. So if I need it I can pick any from say 2000 and be good to go. No need for a new one. Maybe the cris but since i don't understand that doesn't figure in my equation.
Lol what? I can understand you liking Rhumba but hoe are Seben all the same, for me is the opposite, When I was little I couldn't stand any type.of Rhumba now a listen to some rhumbas here and there but my favourite genre is Seben/Generique
-
maybe if for example the genta song shines or any other of the rare sebene songs we'll get in current releases it will encourage people to get back on accepting to get it
there is one of the donor who went as far as trying to sue jb when he was made aware that he had a sebene song with several vocals,they remove the files of the song and it became a full jb rumba lead a completely different song that kibens had to do in emergency
The fact that Joao Ndombele complained about Ferre making a sebene song in his name instead of a rumba, combined with the above story, says a lot about the donors' opinions on sebene. Makes you wonder how many songs from the past 20 years, not just by JB and BCBG, were initially supposed to finish with sebene, only to be retooled into a rumba just to satisfy next man's fickle desires and keep the money rolling. I agree with Longbluesquid when he says that they're killing our music and restricting the bands' creativity.
So my question here. Who provides more salary to these artists. Is it the donors or actual fans? By attending concerts and such. Cause if donors are against sebenes and us fans are complaining the genre could be destroyed just from someone’s requests.
I don’t understand Congolese economy, in regards to music.
Tbh there is no way any regular fan can give more money then a donor let's say medium size artist have an album of 20 songs. A donor will give the artist 20k dollars per song (and this is a medium artist, imagine big artist like Fally, Ferre etc) and the donor has complete control over the genre of the song and sometimes the topic but not on the type of instruments and vocals being played plus this is just songs but sometimes a donor can give you Mabanga money and also buy you instruments for rehearsals make your artists use their own homes, give you free bottles at the club, etc. Etc. And how will the average diaspora Congolese fan could compete with that? And I saying Diaspor because only.Lord knows how much harsh is to get by in Congo and let alone in a very big city like.Kinshasa, people.dont have even have the koney for.food let alone.music, cos are usually sold.by one person buying a copy and then making the copy.for.many people.or street sellers buying the copy.and reselling it, so yes unless something change, Rhumba will be the trend
Oh wow. That makes sense now. Cause a donor is footing upfront money. So really you are ahead with this model. Cause what I was thinking was more a risk. Like fans streaming or buying cds and concerts. Yeah now I see how donors are impacting music.
And another thing. One thing that I have found about that I was shocked is that some donors even buy songs that don't.get released, they basically buy the songs for themselves only, when Archos told me that I was mesmerized, for example there is this JB dancer Trezeguet Selelmba who is one of the choreographer who can sing and a donor asked him to make a song and bought it.specifically for himself.
-
There is a Michigan in Mon plaisir and Haute les mains. Is he the Werrason Michigan and if so someone kindly explain. Did he get vocals in Balle de Match then leave to join Werra but his vocals still made the album or did he leave Werrason just recently to join JB and was able to get vocals in BDM? Or is this a different Michigan?
I remember also a Mcihigan who used to sing like Chai but I don't.know where is.at now, by the way where is.Manvueni? Has he had any.vocals on Balle De Match?
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
Well Congolese I think was known for sebene, I think that’s what gained popularity. Especially for people that don’t know the language.
I am one of those who don't know the language but I just want to listen to rhumba. Sebene are all the same. I don't expect anything new. A sebene/generique will sound almost the same like all the others. So if I need it I can pick any from say 2000 and be good to go. No need for a new one. Maybe the cris but since i don't understand that doesn't figure in my equation.
Lol what? I can understand you liking Rhumba but hoe are Seben all the same, for me is the opposite, When I was little I couldn't stand any type.of Rhumba now a listen to some rhumbas here and there but my favourite genre is Seben/Generique
You got it wrong bro. I don't hate sebene/generique. It's just that am not mad for it. I do enjoy but not over rhumba. I therefore look forward to new releases dominated by rhumbas. Like as i type this Par respect is playing and it's so fire but even if I was listening to Mpunda it's like the same thing. But bro this Par respect is well cooked tbh. Even me the rhumba defender gotta admit..still mon plaisir is up to this moment my best of the ones I've listened. Am on the sixth song. Will give a more comprehensive opinion once done with all. But Volume 2 sounds more solid. It erases the disappointment I got with Volume 1.
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
You sound crazy. Do you think we have 30K to blow away on one song? Also Sebene and generiques sound the same? That’s the last thing a rhumba listener should even say. You should be happy that you have an unlimited list of rhumba songs that continue to dominate every Congolese album.
-
I love rhumba 100 times over sebene so thank you JB Mpiana for your genius thinking. As consolation, why can’t sebene lovers in here become donors and insist that their songs be sebenes and generiques? Short of that the whining will never stop and the artists ain’t gonna give a hoot.
Well Congolese I think was known for sebene, I think that’s what gained popularity. Especially for people that don’t know the language.
I am one of those who don't know the language but I just want to listen to rhumba. Sebene are all the same. I don't expect anything new. A sebene/generique will sound almost the same like all the others. So if I need it I can pick any from say 2000 and be good to go. No need for a new one. Maybe the cris but since i don't understand that doesn't figure in my equation.
Balle de match may be a bad example but JB makes good rumbas. But some other artists have produced poor albums.
-
There is a Michigan in Mon plaisir and Haute les mains. Is he the Werrason Michigan and if so someone kindly explain. Did he get vocals in Balle de Match then leave to join Werra but his vocals still made the album or did he leave Werrason just recently to join JB and was able to get vocals in BDM? Or is this a different Michigan?
No its a different michigan the werra one used to be with lacoste before,and the jb one i think was recruited when looking for a replacement for chai ngenge
they just share the same name but if anything they are actually complementary as one sings high and the other more on deep notes
-
By the way where is Manvueni? The songer of bcbg?
-
So here there is 2 generiques and 1 seben? Thats really bad after waiting more than 7 years……..Fuse, he didn’t get enough time, just heard him on the last minutes of Genta’s song……..I also don’t like this robot like mabanga bass voice.
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
VOLUME 3??
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
VOLUME 3??
yes they did around 70 songs or something
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
VOLUME 3??
yes they did around 70 songs or something
How many Generiques left?
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
VOLUME 3??
yes they did around 70 songs or something
How many Generiques left?
1
-
Yesss volume 3 is coming in April
VOLUME 3??
yes they did around 70 songs or something
How many Generiques left?
1
I hope not :(
-
Feels good to know that this is a good year for releases ;D
-
Once again where is Manvueni?
-
The generiques on this album are great! Add a few more sebene songs and it will be even better.
-
Once again where is Manvueni?
Mavioka ?
You can hear in the Song « Siméon »
-
This album has brought some relief to the BCBG fan club. Relief after so many of us defected and torcherd to the boring whispering voices of kibense and Rio. It took the inactive intuition of JB Mpiana to notice that he was trading as much as below Robinho mundibus fame. You can't be absent from music for 15 years! No album.
And I hope the old mikulis show us bye-bye because this album they have zero voices. I'm happy. What remains is to allow fusi deguerre, bebeto drum, pajo and Tolbert solo to uplift JB Mpiana up. These boys are the gem. Genta is done and finished. Imagine if pajo and fusi dominated in these sebenes!
-
talking about tolbert solo,he just got his first song earlier than planned this week to reward him for having played 50+ songs of the project
-
This album has brought some relief to the BCBG fan club. Relief after so many of us defected and torcherd to the boring whispering voices of kibense and Rio. It took the inactive intuition of JB Mpiana to notice that he was trading as much as below Robinho mundibus fame. You can't be absent from music for 15 years! No album.
And I hope the old mikulis show us bye-bye because this album they have zero voices. I'm happy. What remains is to allow fusi deguerre, bebeto drum, pajo and Tolbert solo to uplift JB Mpiana up. These boys are the gem. Genta is done and finished. Imagine if pajo and fusi dominated in these sebenes!
Sound advise
-
I hope they release Kabola Bilengi as a generique. It's a catchy tune. The guitar is on point
-
Ya Archos can we have a review of the album like you did with the first one,
Tika tosepela :) :) ;) ;) ;)
-
Ya Archos can we have a review of the album like you did with the first one,
Tika tosepela :) :) ;) ;) ;)
Hehehe i was about to say it too
-
Lol okay guys i will do it
-
the song etat d'urgence was written by a musician still active in music but who is not in bcbg and has never been,i'll let you guess who lol
-
the song etat d'urgence was written by a musician still active in music but who is not in bcbg and has never been,i'll let you guess who lol
You?
-
lol not me i am not back into writing yet,but i might make my return this year
an active musician who still is in full career
-
lol not me i am not back into writing yet,but i might make my return this year
an active musician who still is in full career
Ahh yope Archos, just tell us who it is instead of always making us do these guessing games lmao
-
lol not me i am not back into writing yet,but i might make my return this year
an active musician who still is in full career
Ahh yope Archos, just tell us who it is instead of always making us do these guessing games lmao
Ferre?
-
Wazekwa is a good writer???
-
Wazekwa is a good writer???
Excellent he gave Koffi, Papa Wemba and many others a lot of sonts
-
the author is ibrator,that song was among two three than he made jb listen for their feat,and then jb liked that one aswell as another so ibra decided to offer it to him,listen to the contremaitre album,you can sense even his chorus style and things like that it was done exactly like it came plus only the lead guitar addition