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Title: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:31

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Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:54
https://youtu.be/SHGhfZFzwUY?si=fQQKO9Z1shB8gnPZ
The générique is so good!! ????
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:54
https://youtu.be/KzYqFH71_lo?si=nY27GQQJFA7TJmf_
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:55
https://youtu.be/u2OFxGDgKU8?si=ixEcOkM1nzioGqxq
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:55
https://youtu.be/D6uhZhcrLjw?si=PPF4-4FcR12wGFGJ
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:55
https://youtu.be/sxfIfw2oG4o?si=uNXtOZydwgmZaQf7
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:56
https://youtu.be/hMHWFho-PB4?si=nbvMEeJSA7EKK9Tj
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:56
https://youtu.be/lyetN_JI8oM?si=JagUas9SPAklSaBJ
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:57
https://youtu.be/p1tM36rB1bY?si=OFXbRsUNl2oC_cXn
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:57
https://youtu.be/vHz1BJRG3mQ?si=BooiPcPPCcJGZmez
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 12, 2023, 22:58
https://youtu.be/3fgISyKkGwM?si=4XhZiz3cQkxNrR--
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Longbluesquid on October 12, 2023, 23:21
About to listen while watching NFL. Will report back.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 12, 2023, 23:31
https://youtu.be/3fgISyKkGwM?si=4XhZiz3cQkxNrR--
Dude why can’t you just post all the videos in one post like everybody else rather than just posting each video individually
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 12, 2023, 23:38
Can’t lie I’ve been waiting for Serge Mabiala’s song since they released the snippet 2 years. Aimelia Ferre and Mabiala still have great chemistry
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 12, 2023, 23:49
Aimelia is really a monster,in that type of tenor at some point you are forced to change your way of singing,but the guy still has the crisp clear voice of 30 years ago,he must be either really disciplined or blessed genetically to maintain it this well
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on October 13, 2023, 00:35
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: mrvibes on October 13, 2023, 00:57
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.
Yeah yeah yeah we know .Thank you . Go to bed now.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Matebu on October 13, 2023, 02:35
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.

lol - the album has been out a few hours and you come with this verdict. I will take my time to listen and enjoy this long-awaited album
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Huey on October 13, 2023, 02:39
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.

The album was just literally released.  You've not even taken the time to listen it, but rushed to critic.  Your reaction it's giving disingenuous.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Seben_Maniac on October 13, 2023, 02:42
Is that the generique that replaced the bill Clinton one? What a disappointment! You just had to ruin it Bill Clinton!
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Huey on October 13, 2023, 02:43
Yes. New album to listen for this weekend's road trip.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Longbluesquid on October 13, 2023, 03:08
Rumbas are good on this one.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: jordanlumbala101 on October 13, 2023, 05:02
No that might be on Volume 2
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: dany on October 13, 2023, 06:14
This album is fire parking, oza, double talk, medaille d’or, ouragan, zero echec are masterpieces. The features are underwhelming except serge mabiala and wanga Soleil songs. The instruments were well executed especially the bass guitar.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: oj78 on October 13, 2023, 07:42
Feeling Vita Imana on  - Dernière Danse.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 13, 2023, 09:20
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.
Ahahahahah
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 13, 2023, 09:23
https://youtu.be/SHGhfZFzwUY?si=fQQKO9Z1shB8gnPZ
The générique is so good!! ????
The change of beat at the 3 minute mark is crazy mmmm Le Padreeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: oj78 on October 13, 2023, 10:27
Rumbas are good on this one.
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Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on October 13, 2023, 10:34
Faux album, no direction, songs sound forced and unfinished.

The album was just literally released.  You've not even taken the time to listen it, but rushed to critic.  Your reaction it's giving disingenuous.

i finish and my verdict is that it's absolutely waste of time...once again Wata is our last savior because Ferre's album is not going to take Formule 7 out lol, sorry just my opinion
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on October 13, 2023, 11:01
Hertier du Trone has that only instruments soft sebene at the end like we been advocating. Its like someone read a thing or two on Congo Vibes. Lol
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 13, 2023, 11:22
i dont know if it can make people need more time to enjoy the songs,but have people noticed the mix seems completely different from most past albums,i have an uncle who is an arranger for european artists and he says it has been mixed like a blues album
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: SYMPLICITY on October 13, 2023, 11:26
i dont know if it can make people need more time to enjoy the songs,but have people noticed the mix seems completely different from most past albums,i have an uncle who is an arranger for european artists and he says it has been mixed like a blues album

The quality is poor but I have quite a number of songs I enjoy plus the generique is fire. Overall, the album is waaaay better than Formule 7(personal opinion) but is not special. It has not excited me at all and that says a lot me beinga hardline Ferre fan.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Longbluesquid on October 13, 2023, 12:37
Is that the generique that replaced the bill Clinton one? What a disappointment! You just had to ruin it Bill Clinton!

The generique I didn’t really think it was his best. But rumbas were really good.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 13, 2023, 12:52
that is one of the generiques of the group itself,there is other generiques on vol 2
this type of generiques as first released generique is a gamble,not everybody likes that type of generiques without solo,and the voices of the atalakus are quite low too
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: SYMPLICITY on October 13, 2023, 13:29
Force Grise!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: congo-243 on October 13, 2023, 13:38
i dont know if it can make people need more time to enjoy the songs,but have people noticed the mix seems completely different from most past albums,i have an uncle who is an arranger for european artists and he says it has been mixed like a blues album
Blues album ? You think that’s a bad thing
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 13, 2023, 14:21
I just noticed that michel bass kinda confirmed the same thing,saying that ferre asked to have the same mix as an american artist which he made him listen to i think the idea behind it is that people often reproched him to stay  too much in pure rumba and be outdated so i think mixing that way gave something more "modern"
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 13, 2023, 14:29
blaise createur needs to be dropped or not be anymore the leading atalaku,his work is becoming more and more basic,and doupidi is too shy for the type of voice he has,maybe ferre should inject new blood in the animation section,maybe he noticed it or was advised about it thats why osme of donors are rooting for prince d'angola to join
they did not do justice to the very good work of the bassist you'd think thats prime mimiche or sunda bass with their hard hitting style
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: JV “Lone Ranger” on October 13, 2023, 15:19
blaise createur needs to be dropped or not be anymore the leading atalaku,his work is becoming more and more basic,and doupidi is too shy for the type of voice he has,maybe ferre should inject new blood in the animation section,maybe he noticed it or was advised about it thats why osme of donors are rooting for prince d'angola to join
they did not do justice to the very good work of the bassist you'd think thats prime mimiche or sunda bass with their hard hitting style

Lol ndima kk eza faux album
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 13, 2023, 16:24
blaise createur needs to be dropped or not be anymore the leading atalaku,his work is becoming more and more basic,and doupidi is too shy for the type of voice he has,maybe ferre should inject new blood in the animation section,maybe he noticed it or was advised about it thats why osme of donors are rooting for prince d'angola to join
they did not do justice to the very good work of the bassist you'd think thats prime mimiche or sunda bass with their hard hitting style

Lol ndima kk eza faux album

lol your reactions seem more like you were hyped to expect a certain level where you'd love 80 per cent of the album straight away but then since you did not have that first boom impression it went a bit radical lol 
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on October 13, 2023, 22:52
So its now confirmed, Ferre chose to be average for his whole career, nothing special on this whole album. Generique/seben wise this album is below gomme (hard truth)
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 14, 2023, 12:21
sometimes our artists overlook the fact that some generiques which they see as the one to release are in reality in the spirit of a third or second at best generique,you'll see in few weeks that in reality the target is not to make people go wild like when there is solo and proper sebene,but rather making some sequences of the song viral on tiktok and co in challenges then boom it turns the generique into some success
we said the same thing about some generiques recently  but at the end its what happened,social traction transformed them into hits
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 14, 2023, 12:25
lol heritier's fans are going hard on ferre over 30 seconds of similarity of the last heritier song in maison mere and ecriture chinoise,while its simply the same writer late leader kashama and writers have that "habit" of recycling unconsciously previous lyrics( haha i remember marchouse anecdote that reddy got mad because he told him in studio that what they were singing in the new song he used similar lyrics years ago),and they are so hard into forceing that frontal beef with ferre that they needlessly are attacking the rest of the maison mere dynastie guys who all get along very well with heritier,except celeo who there was that little thing at some point
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 14, 2023, 12:26
sometimes our artists overlook the fact that some generiques which they see as the one to release are in reality in the spirit of a third or second at best generique,you'll see in few weeks that in reality the target is not to make people go wild like when there is solo and proper sebene,but rather making some sequences of the song viral on tiktok and co in challenges then boom it turns the generique into some success
And this is a winning strategy tbh  the only Ndombolo artist who had a successful  Ndombolo gnerique lately is JB Mpiana for the rest wherever Koffi, Werra, Fabregas, Heritier tried to do that traditional Sebene they had way lower results then their usual result with the only example in this group being MAMD and some of the old Fabregas Generique when he started cause you could see he had that anger.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 14, 2023, 13:09
yeah i would not surprised to see the "azalaka likangu na nga c'est le passe oh" part built by thousands of congolese women and some men on socials to diss their ex,or the foreign guys who complain that we sing too much in lingala make hella challenges on the "le telephone est dechargé" part
i dont think ferre really planned it like that but this type of generiques have been pretty much about "hopefully some parts are made viral" of late
remember how we said bizorbi this bizorbi that,at the end of the day only generique to have been remixed more than twice in less than a year  since selfie
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 14, 2023, 13:23
yeah i would not surprised to see the "azalaka likangu na nga c'est le passe oh" part built by thousands of congolese women and some men on socials to diss their ex,or the foreign guys who complain that we sing too much in lingala make hella challenges on the "le telephone est dechargé" part
i dont think ferre really planned it like that but this type of generiques have been pretty much about "hopefully some parts are made viral" of late
remember how we said bizorbi this bizorbi that,at the end of the day only generique to have been remixed more than twice in less than a year  since selfie
What people forget or don’t realise is the Bizorbi remix is in reality his Generique Vibes, it’s just the Bizorbi lyrics over the instrumental. I think it was made by accident during a concert they were performing vibes and Ferre decided to sing Bizorbi over it and then boom it went viral
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Tata Nkiadi on October 14, 2023, 13:45
I just noticed that michel bass kinda confirmed the same thing,saying that ferre asked to have the same mix as an american artist which he made him listen to i think the idea behind it is that people often reproched him to stay  too much in pure rumba and be outdated so i think mixing that way gave something more "modern"

I’m a blues guitarist so this actually makes me extremely happy. It gives songs like Oza a nostalgic feel which sounds like hommage to 80s Tabu Ley and Afrisa. Le Padre went old school with this album. He often gives history lessons in Congolese music, something Fally doesn’t do.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 14, 2023, 14:23
I just noticed that michel bass kinda confirmed the same thing,saying that ferre asked to have the same mix as an american artist which he made him listen to i think the idea behind it is that people often reproched him to stay  too much in pure rumba and be outdated so i think mixing that way gave something more "modern"

I’m a blues guitarist so this actually makes me extremely happy. It gives songs like Oza a nostalgic feel which sounds like hommage to 80s Tabu Ley and Afrisa. Le Padre went old school with this album. He often gives history lessons in Congolese music, something Fally doesn’t do.
Fally has gone old plenty of times what about Lady D from Formule 7 or Message from Tokoss 2 or Libre parcours 2?
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 14, 2023, 14:38
Guys please don't make this another Ferre Vs Fally thread, we will talk about Fally and his high and logs when Fally will release now that Ferre have released let's talk about the high and logs of Ferre please
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: CM PRINCE on October 14, 2023, 14:46
Guys please don't make this another Ferre Vs Fally thread, we will talk about Fally and his high and logs when Fally will release now that Ferre have released let's talk about the high and logs of Ferre please
For me Idk I like about 4 songs from this album. I might have to give it another listen, but the Generique I don’t know what everyone’s talking about when they’re calling it fire, I was expecting Ekoyebana type of Generique now that was fire but not this.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: oj78 on October 14, 2023, 15:36
yeah i would not surprised to see the "azalaka likangu na nga c'est le passe oh" part built by thousands of congolese women and some men on socials to diss their ex,or the foreign guys who complain that we sing too much in lingala make hella challenges on the "le telephone est dechargé" part
i dont think ferre really planned it like that but this type of generiques have been pretty much about "hopefully some parts are made viral" of late
remember how we said bizorbi this bizorbi that,at the end of the day only generique to have been remixed more than twice in less than a year  since selfie
And was this his original idea/work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4p-KF-a5Y&t=78s
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: archos on October 14, 2023, 16:54
no i think ferre's keyboard player who played it(who is in reality a fabregas keyboard player who ran away in europe and not a keyboard player from his group) nspired himself of that style,apart from their own creations most our keyboard players have two sources of partitions which are the church partitions(with that "church" keyboard style) and the partitions of kibinda nkoyi  group which is  kinda like traditional music which also are played mainly on that mode which "marries"well with the whistle
https://youtu.be/SWM8cvc6jdo here is another example at 4 05
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 14, 2023, 20:08
no i think ferre's keyboard player who played it(who is in reality a fabregas keyboard player who ran away in europe and not a keyboard player from his group) nspired himself of that style,apart from their own creations most our keyboard players have two sources of partitions which are the church partitions(with that "church" keyboard style) and the partitions of kibinda nkoyi  group which is  kinda like traditional music which also are played mainly on that mode which "marries"well with the whistle
https://youtu.be/SWM8cvc6jdo here is another example at 4 05
Why don't they incorporate other styles?
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 14, 2023, 20:09
no i think ferre's keyboard player who played it(who is in reality a fabregas keyboard player who ran away in europe and not a keyboard player from his group) nspired himself of that style,apart from their own creations most our keyboard players have two sources of partitions which are the church partitions(with that "church" keyboard style) and the partitions of kibinda nkoyi  group which is  kinda like traditional music which also are played mainly on that mode which "marries"well with the whistle
https://youtu.be/SWM8cvc6jdo here is another example at 4 05

Church music like this?


https://youtu.be/a9hZsSXjBz0?si=7gHqS4A8hss4Owyf
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: 242 on October 14, 2023, 21:57
I really took my time to listen the whole album. Even though I didn’t like the generique, I like song such as Ecriture Chinoise; Parking ; Écologie , Héritier du trône , force grise , zéro échec & oxygène.

That zéro échec song with Serge Mabiala lowkey reminds me of Viva La Musica vibe
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Bohemian Rhapsody on October 15, 2023, 03:51
I'll give this album a listen tonight.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Cavalier Solitaire on October 16, 2023, 13:40
Is that Echapper who sings at the 6 minutes mark in the song Visas or its a replacement copy cat? I have noticed some songs suddenly just stop is that because of the streaming sites cutting them or studio? Songs such as Oza just stop when you expect a bit more of Mutwashi. Oza is a great song. I would have loved for him to get more space in the song vocally but he was reduced to doing less than a minute  which he spent throwing shoutouts.

Speaking of Mabanga, Kin artists should copy what the guys in Brazza do (Clan Extra and others) where you have one person doing mabangas for everyone in the song while the vocals are just plain song text.
Title: Re: DYNASTIE 2 IS OUT
Post by: Chris Sunday on October 16, 2023, 18:58
I agree with you. Let's just talk about Ferre Gola...